Re: [sword-devel] Question about use of note elements

2012-08-15 Thread Tonny Kohar
Hi, Sorry for late response, I just realized this message. In Alkitab (JSword based) all rendering structure is done using XSL (osis to html) , so any note placement will be greatly influenced by the XSL that used by JSword/BibleDesktop. Alkitab as in source code does not place particular note in

Re: [sword-devel] Question about use of note elements

2012-07-21 Thread Nic Carter
Hi Andrew, I would suggest you look into MacPorts -- it allows you to install the various libraries that you'll need to compile Xiphos natively on your Mac. You'll need Xcode, which is free on the Mac App Store, and then install the MacPorts installer from http://www.macports.org and then dow

Re: [sword-devel] Question about use of note elements

2012-07-20 Thread Andrew Thule
Nic say: "Also, it was rather trivial to get Xiphos working native under X11 on a Mac, so that may be a lot easier than running it under a VM on a Mac?" You could be right, however I run the VM for other reasons. I need the tools 'Backtrack Linux' so nicely wraps together (day job requires penetr

Re: [sword-devel] Question about use of note elements

2012-07-20 Thread Nic Carter
On 21/07/2012, at 6:42, Karl Kleinpaste wrote: > Find us someone willing to put in the work to produce a Mac package. > The build has been done before, but not in a manner representing a > complete, install-ready package. We've been asking, but no one has been > willing to step up to take on th

Re: [sword-devel] Question about use of note elements

2012-07-20 Thread Chris Little
On 07/20/2012 01:42 PM, Karl Kleinpaste wrote: Andrew Thule writes: Chris, the '%2B' is a bug then. Is there a bug submission process for Xiphos I can poke? If it were a Xiphos bug, from the menubar: Help -> Report Bug. But I don't perceive this as a Xiphos bug. I believe the engine filter

Re: [sword-devel] Question about use of note elements

2012-07-20 Thread Andrew Thule
Confusion comes from POSIX's permissive approach to basename/dirname. POSIX.1-2001 suggests something to the effect that the trailing slash denotes where the dirname ends and the basename begins (which is unfortunately in my opinion) For example if you look at basename/dirname (which conforms to P

Re: [sword-devel] Question about use of note elements

2012-07-20 Thread Chris Little
On 07/20/2012 12:48 PM, Andrew Thule wrote: However, this idea of in line notes was from the OSIS Manual which says "It is customary to include the notes directly within the text, at the point to which they apply", so I was trying not to fight the standard in my understanding - go with the flow t

Re: [sword-devel] Question about use of note elements

2012-07-20 Thread Andrew Thule
>>Also, typically notes of this sort are labelled by letters or digits. Is >>there a reason why you're using non-alphanumerics? I didn't realize there was a restriction on using non-alphanumerics. I was also tempted to try "†". I will dig into the standard to conform to it, but no - no reason in

Re: [sword-devel] Question about use of note elements

2012-07-20 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
Andrew Thule writes: > Xiphos (which I wish I could get working in OSX sometimes). I run it > in a VM from Linux (on OSX). Find us someone willing to put in the work to produce a Mac package. The build has been done before, but not in a manner representing a complete, install-ready package. We'

Re: [sword-devel] Question about use of note elements

2012-07-20 Thread Andrew Thule
Karl, Chris, thanks for your responses. Karl I appreciate your comments because you have removed some of the mystique of Xiphos' behavior; which I appreciate. My tool of choice for personal bible work happens to be Xiphos (which I wish I could get working in OSX sometimes). I run it in a VM from

Re: [sword-devel] Question about use of note elements

2012-07-20 Thread Chris Little
On 07/20/2012 11:06 AM, Andrew Thule wrote: One benefit of having markup is that rendering mark-up is left to the client. Even so, I'm looking at notes in Xiphos, Bibletime and Alkitab and each treats them slightly different ways. For example the following note 8:15 is rendered in: Xiphos as su

Re: [sword-devel] Question about use of note elements

2012-07-20 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
Andrew Thule writes: > The Xiphos behavior complete perplexes me - how is *n%2B constructed? The short answer: Xiphos displays whatever the engine filters give it. The long answer: For many years the filters generated just "*n" for footnotes and "*x" for xrefs, without per-element identifiers fo

[sword-devel] Question about use of note elements

2012-07-20 Thread Andrew Thule
One benefit of having markup is that rendering mark-up is left to the client. Even so, I'm looking at notes in Xiphos, Bibletime and Alkitab and each treats them slightly different ways. For example the following note 8:15 is rendered in: Xiphos as superscript link "*n%2B" (with contents of the n