Re: [sword-devel] My personal OpenSource ideologies

2001-12-13 Thread Timothy R. Butler
Hi Chris, > Acts 2: 44 All the believers were together and had all their source code > in common. That's a new one to me. And here I thought RMS came up with the Free software movement. Hmm... Maybe we shouldn't be looking for more scrolls, we just need to find one of the early church's netwo

Re: [sword-devel] My personal OpenSource ideologies

2001-12-10 Thread Jerry Kreps
On Monday 10 December 2001 00:03, Chris wrote: > >I actually love the fact that Java is so strongly typed. > > Actually no, you should dump C++ and Java in favour of Scheme, but > that's a religious > war for another day ;-) So many languages, so much fun, so little time...

Re: [sword-devel] My personal OpenSource ideologies

2001-12-10 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jerry Kreps > Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 4:50 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [sword-devel] My personal OpenSource ideologies > > On Sunday 09 December 2001 16:59, you wrote: > > > You know, American capit

Re: [sword-devel] My personal OpenSource ideologies

2001-12-09 Thread Chris
> > > >I actually love the fact that Java is so strongly typed. > Actually no, you should dump C++ and Java in favour of Scheme, but that's a religious war for another day ;-)

RE: [sword-devel] My personal OpenSource ideologies

2001-12-09 Thread ChaTcIRCuiT
] Subject: Re: [sword-devel] My personal OpenSource ideologies On Sunday 09 December 2001 16:59, you wrote: > You know, American capitalism is not better than socialism Isaiah 65:17 (Revised Standard Version) "For behold, I create new heavens and a new earth; and the former things s

Re: [sword-devel] My personal OpenSource ideologies

2001-12-09 Thread Jerry Kreps
On Sunday 09 December 2001 22:50, Mike Dougherty wrote: > On Sun, 2001-12-09 at 19:59, Bobby Nations wrote: > > The collections classes in Java 2 mimic the STL in many ways, but > > are less elegant than STL because you have to cast everything to > > the appropriate object type when retrieving fro

Re: [sword-devel] My personal OpenSource ideologies

2001-12-09 Thread Mike Dougherty
On Sun, 2001-12-09 at 19:59, Bobby Nations wrote: > > The collections classes in Java 2 mimic the STL in many ways, but are less > elegant than STL because you have to cast everything to the appropriate > object type when retrieving from a collection. IMHO, the lack of templates > and operator o

Re: [sword-devel] My personal OpenSource ideologies

2001-12-09 Thread Bobby Nations
Mike, My shallow understanding of things. STL is short for the Standard Template Library in C++. It was originally implemented by HP and later became a part of the standard. The STL consists of generic implementations of most of what the average programmer will ever need in regard to container

Re: [sword-devel] My personal OpenSource ideologies

2001-12-09 Thread Jerry Kreps
On Sunday 09 December 2001 19:54, Chris wrote: > Ok, I can't resist :-) :-) > > Acts 2: 44 All the believers were together and had all their source > code in common. ... that's the way I read it too! :) Proverbs 21:26 (Revised Standard Version) All day long the wicked covets, but the right

Re: [sword-devel] My personal OpenSource ideologies

2001-12-09 Thread Mike Dougherty
I'm not going to debate anyone's specific views on Open Source and/or Java development. I'll just put to you all what I think and you can take it for what it's worth. I am an Open Source advocate. I am not a good evangelist, with either truth that I believe (The Gospel of Christ and Open Source f

Re: [sword-devel] My personal OpenSource ideologies

2001-12-09 Thread Leon Brooks
On Monday 10 December 2001 09:54, Chris wrote: > Ok, I can't resist :-) :-) A... I was saving that one! (-: > Acts 2: 44 All the believers were together and had all their source code > in common. Cheers; Leon

Re: [sword-devel] My personal OpenSource ideologies

2001-12-09 Thread Chris
Ok, I can't resist :-) :-) Acts 2: 44 All the believers were together and had all their source code in common. Jerry Kreps wrote: >On Sunday 09 December 2001 16:59, you wrote: > >>You know, American capitalism is not better than socialism >> > >Isaiah 65:17 (Revised Standard Version) >"F

Re: [sword-devel] My personal OpenSource ideologies

2001-12-09 Thread Jerry Kreps
On Sunday 09 December 2001 16:59, you wrote: > You know, American capitalism is not better than socialism Isaiah 65:17 (Revised Standard Version) "For behold, I create new heavens and a new earth; and the former things shall not be remembered or come into mind."

RE: [sword-devel] My personal OpenSource ideologies

2001-12-09 Thread Chris Little
You're so wrong. If some day GnomeSword, BibleTime, BibleCS, and all of Sword are obsolete and forgotten, but computer users generally are free to share and change the software they use, these programs will have done their job well. If, on the other hand, Sword and its frontends are widely used,

Re: [sword-devel] My personal OpenSource ideologies

2001-12-09 Thread Chris
>We'll change it! That would be unfortunate, and I don't believe legal >(I don't think they can retroactively change their license on code >they've already released under one license, but instead a new license >would apply, only for future releases) You see, this is a situation where open and cl

[sword-devel] My personal OpenSource ideologies

2001-12-09 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
I'm taking the opposing side not because I don't agree with you in some respects... Again, I also speak only my own opinions of opensource and NOT for the entire project or everyone involved at CrossWire. Especially, Chris Little (<- most likely to disagree with me). > > Many Java and C comp