Re: [sword-devel] I implore you...

How SwordWeb displays the ESV wasn't the point. The point was that the second title within Song 4:16 was OSIS coded between poetry line groups. So even Xiphos could display it properly, without omitting the line breaks before and after. /Remember what Karl explained last week or earlier?/ Hence

Re: [sword-devel] I implore you...

On Jun 15, 2013, at 2:53 AM, David Haslam wrote: > Not only should we be looking for a real example of a mid-verse title within > a prose passage, > we should also be looking for a mid-verse section title /per se/. > > If we fail to consider such possibilities, we are merely kidding ourselves.

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That the speaker tag *\sp* was subject to a workaround when the ESV was converted to OSIS becomes even more apparent if we look at how usfm2osis.py now handles this tag. Here are the relevant lines of Python code: # \sp_text... osis = re.sub(r'\\sp\s+(.+)', r'\1', osis) Not a tra

Re: [sword-devel] I implore you...

Not only should we be looking for a real example of a mid-verse title within a prose passage, we should also be looking for a mid-verse section title /per se/. If we fail to consider such possibilities, we are merely kidding ourselves. The example in *Song 4:16* worked in swordweb (etc) because i

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And (just for the record), the mod2imp output for that verse is as follows: $$$Song of Solomon 4:16 SheAwake, O north wind,and come, O south wind!Blow upon my [ch. 5:1; 6:2]garden,let its spices flow.Together in the Garden of Love[ch. 6:2]Let my beloved come to his ch. 6:2garden,and eat its [See

Re: [sword-devel] I implore you...

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi! What's the integration status on this patch? Blessings, Jaak PS: Is Troy the only one with access to apply this? On 10.06.2013 22:49, Jaak Ristioja wrote: > Argh, someone must have changed things on SVN lately, so this > patch was invalid for t

Re: [sword-devel] I implore you...

On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 9:46 AM, Mark Trompell wrote: > I just found that I carry a patch in my package to work around some > issues with curl 720 (can't remember what it was) > is that still needed for something? Attaching it to the mail in case > someone knows This one is completly nonsense, act

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I just found that I carry a patch in my package to work around some issues with curl 720 (can't remember what it was) is that still needed for something? Attaching it to the mail in case someone knows On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 5:09 PM, Greg Hellings wrote: > ...please just release 1.7.0 now. 15 mont

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Sorry for the confusion in my previous email for changing the link text but not the href. Here is the correct link for the ESV: http://crosswire.org/study/passagestudy.jsp?mod=ESV&key=Song+of+Solomon+4%3A16#cv David, Interesting the "She" and section heading is swapped around on Bible Gatewa

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You are looking at the NASB. There was a problem with the link that was provided. You'll need to select the ESV on the left to get to it. -- DM On Jun 11, 2013, at 7:23 AM, David Instone-Brewer wrote: > Perhaps there are still some problems here. The Crosswire link shows me at > http://cross

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Perhaps there are still some problems here. The Crosswire link shows me at http://crosswire.org/study/passagestudy.jsp?key=Song+of+Solomon+4%3A16#cv (I tried both FF & Chrom in Windows 7)

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DM's email had a difference between the Link name and the Link address. *Name*: http://crosswire.org/study/passagestudy.jsp?mod=ESV&key=Song+of+Solomon+4%3A16#cv *Address*: http://crosswire.org/study/passagestudy.jsp?key=Song+of+Solomon+4%3A16#cv Troy was partially right, but the problem may hav

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Apparently that email message was an HTML message and my simply changing the text of the link didn't actually change the link href. Sad. On 06/10/2013 11:40 PM, DM Smith wrote: I tried both Firefox and Safari. I don't think it has to do with the browser. -- DM On Jun 10, 2013, at 5:38 PM, D

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I tried both Firefox and Safari. I don't think it has to do with the browser. -- DM On Jun 10, 2013, at 5:38 PM, David Haslam wrote: > Got it. > > *Together in the Garden of Love* > > but the URL behaviour is still baffling. I was using Firefox. > Which browser were you using? > > David >

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Got it. *Together in the Garden of Love* but the URL behaviour is still baffling. I was using Firefox. Which browser were you using? David PS. Headings were already "turned on". -- View this message in context: http://sword-dev.350566.n4.nabble.com/I-implore-you-tp4652437p4652492.html Sen

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I saw that it didn't go to the ESV too. I had to pick it on the left. Maybe you have headings turned off. If on, you should see one immediately before verse 16 and one in it. In Him, DM On Jun 10, 2013, at 5:28 PM, David Haslam wrote: > Hang on a mo! > > Where is the mid-verse title

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Hang on a mo! Where is the mid-verse title in Song 4? I can't see one there. The only title that URL presented me is the one above verse 1. And why is the verse 1 tag widowed? NB. The URL didn't force navigation to the ESV at all, despite that module name being in the passed parameters. When

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Yay!!! In Him, DM On Jun 10, 2013, at 8:05 AM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote: > Thanks Ben, > > This is exactly what I was looking for. Here's the link which forces the > module to ESV: > > http://crosswire.org/study/passagestudy.jsp?mod=ESV&key=Song+of+Solomon+4%3A16#cv > > And yeah, th

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Yes - I totally agree with DM - thanks for the good reminder. David -- View this message in context: http://sword-dev.350566.n4.nabble.com/I-implore-you-tp4652437p4652478.html Sent from the SWORD Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ sword-dev

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Fortunately, usfm2osis.py is not tied to a release. It is a separate standalone piece of software, not using the SWORD engine. IMHO, regarding module development, the only potential blocker for a release is the handling of pre-verse divs and whitespace issues related to it within the SWORD libr

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Argh, someone must have changed things on SVN lately, so this patch was invalid for the current trunk... I wish you guys would learn git or something. Anyway, here's something which should apply to SVN 2819, I hope. SHA1SUM: 071a4fb64f1d0c2ed5d746d087

Re: [sword-devel] I implore you...

DM's message clarifies where the new release is heading, but it doesn't alter the fact that usfm2osis.py places section titles before the eID milestone of the previous verse (when there is one). With the new release therefore, the new osis2mod (even after recompiling for version 1.7), would surel

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Attached is a patch for this. Please apply. SHA1SUM: 9a99e34ce419ea3288a32148d431ec971fb0e675 Blessings, Jaak On 10.06.2013 19:38, Jaak Ristioja wrote: > I'm working on the patch but here's a short overview of the > problem, in case discussion is r

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A bit more on titles. In the old, old osis2mod (i.e. many versions ago) the expectation was that the only markup between verses would be titles and that titles would occur no where else. At that time, the code pulled all titles out of the verse, no matter where they occurred and prefixed the ve

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'm working on the patch but here's a short overview of the problem, in case discussion is required. The problem is that source code using Sword can't do stuff like: #include This is VERY BAD, because we must do #include and provide -I/path/to/

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Actually I just remembered another serious flaw which causes a headache for developers using Sword. I'll write a patch ASAP. Blessings, Jaak On 10.06.2013 09:43, Troy A. Griffitts wrote: > Jaak, > > I accepted and applied your header file patch nearly 5 months ago. Are > you telling me that you

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Addendum: When I wrote: If it doesn't find them there, the OSIS transformations described elsewhere (the adding of the attribute subType="x-preverse") simply doesn't happen. I should also have included, ( and moving the section title to AFTER the verse sID milestone) David -- View this

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At the time we prepared the TurNTB module for release, we were told that SWORD did not support mid-verse titles. Accordingly, the module was built after implementing the negotiated workarounds in the USFM file for Acts. My difficulty is this: Starting with received USFM files in which there are

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Glad to hear Jaak. Your patches were committed with log messages as: r2779 | scribe | 2013-01-29 01:06:01 +0100 (Tue, 29 Jan 2013) | 2 lines Committed patch to safely bypass warnings for unused variables in empty virtual

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Thanks Ben, This is exactly what I was looking for. Here's the link which forces the module to ESV: http://crosswire.org/study/passagestudy.jsp?mod=ESV&key=Song+of+Solomon+4%3A16#cv And yeah, they do look a little

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Osis2mod no longer does that. Mid verse titles are left as is where they occur. Cent from my fone so theer mite be tipos. ;) On Jun 10, 2013, at 2:50 AM, Chris Little wrote: > I believe that the issue is simply that osis2mod identifies all titles as > pre-verse titles. Someone correct me if I

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Dear Greg, Von: "Greg Hellings" On Jun 9, 2013 4:28 PM, "Troy A. Griffitts" wrote: >> Do all the bindings build ok?  It sounded like Peter still had some troubles. > > I can work with him to find the difference between his environment and mine > and resolve that. The bindings build fine in Fed

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Ah, sorry! The warnings come from building against the latest version of Sword. I think they might be fixed in SVN. I tracked the respective change back to a commit, but the commit message didn't say anything about it (SVN 2690). I hope the new version will be released soon. Jaak On 10.06.2013 0

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They are supported. E.g. Song of Solomon in the ESV has them. E.g. 4:16: http://crosswire.org/study/passagestudy.jsp?key=Song+of+Solomon+4%3A16#cv Note that some of the titles here do look weird, but they are supported. God Bless, Ben -

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I believe that the issue is simply that osis2mod identifies all titles as pre-verse titles. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but that's the only issue I can really imagine. --Chris On 6/9/2013 11:46 PM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote: I am unaware that SWORD does not support mid-verse section headin

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I am unaware that SWORD does not support mid-verse section headings. They are the easier case, as opposed to pre-verse section headings which require special treatment. I am simply looking for a known location in existing module with a mid-verse heading to check and see. If you know of one,

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Jaak, I accepted and applied your header file patch nearly 5 months ago. Are you telling me that you still have 549 warnings from SWORD headers? Troy On 06/09/2013 11:55 PM, Jaak Ristioja wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09.06.2013 23:21, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:

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I haven't touched c code for a while but can't you simply use a grep to exclude the stuff you're not interested in? On 9 Jun 2013 22:55, "Jaak Ristioja" wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 09.06.2013 23:21, Troy A. Griffitts wrote: > > I don't think other developers ar

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Yet as regards working towards a SWORD 1.7 release, even if the developers did manage to devise a solution for mid-verse section titles in the SWORD engine, I'm afraid that because even for pre-verse titles, usfm2osis.py is at odds with how osis2mod expects them, we do not and would not have a usef

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Having responded for the location of mid-verse titles in the USFM source files used for a module already released (TurNTB), but based an authorized workaround, the other examples which need to be tested and solved are in the USFM source files for the *Tok Pisin* Bible which Michael Johnson recent

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In the USFM files from the Translation Trust that we used for making the Turkish Bible module, there were 3 mid-verse section headings in Acts. I recently resent these files to Chris Little, so that he could provide a fix for an unrelated issue

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David is the only person I recall referring to existing mid verse titles. Perhaps he will know of one? --Greg On Jun 9, 2013 4:42 PM, "Troy A. Griffitts" wrote: > Can anyone remember the location of a midverse section heading? I'd > like to check the display, but can't seem to remember where o

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On Jun 9, 2013 4:28 PM, "Troy A. Griffitts" wrote: > > :) > > Is everyone happy with SVN HEAD? > > I'm happy with the vspace cleanup. Does it meet everyone else's need? > > Do all the bindings build ok? It sounded like Peter still had some troubles. > I can work with him to find the difference

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> On 6/9/2013 1:26 PM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote: > > Do all the bindings build ok? It sounded like Peter still had some > > troubles. Unresolved. I am fairly clueless on all matters compiling, but it seems from googling that the problem is one of a linkage problem relating to c++ - if this helps

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09.06.2013 23:21, Troy A. Griffitts wrote: > I don't think other developers are getting ignored. Please be > specific. Just because I don't accept a patch doesn't mean a > developer is getting ignored. > > In fact, many times trying to make this

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On 6/9/2013 1:26 PM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote: :) Is everyone happy with SVN HEAD? I have one filter patch to apply/tune/test, which I can do tonight. Do all the bindings build ok? It sounded like Peter still had some troubles. Not bindings precisely, but I'd like to get the MSVC projects

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Can anyone remember the location of a midverse section heading? I'd like to check the display, but can't seem to remember where one is. On 06/09/2013 10:26 PM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote: :) Is everyone happy with SVN HEAD? I'm happy with the vspace cleanup. Does it meet everyone else's need?

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:) Is everyone happy with SVN HEAD? I'm happy with the vspace cleanup. Does it meet everyone else's need? Do all the bindings build ok? It sounded like Peter still had some troubles. Greg, do I still need to apply a patch from you? I've deployed HEAD for our SWORDWeb installation at: htt

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I don't think other developers are getting ignored. Please be specific. Just because I don't accept a patch doesn't mean a developer is getting ignored. In fact, many times trying to make this release, when people complain that we need something fixed for this release, I ask for a simple te

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi! On 09.06.2013 18:09, Greg Hellings wrote: > ...please just release 1.7.0 now. 15 months ago Troy promised it > would be released the following month. Some things have happened > that made it a bit difficult, but 15 MORE months beyond the > already

[sword-devel] I implore you...

...please just release 1.7.0 now. 15 months ago Troy promised it would be released the following month. Some things have happened that made it a bit difficult, but 15 MORE months beyond the already-too-long time is ridiculous. Please just release it as it is and then make regular bug-fix releases t