Re: [sword-devel] Hosting non-US public domain modules

2016-01-22 Thread Isaac Dunham
On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 02:13:35AM +, jonathon wrote: > On 22/01/2016 18:15, Kahunapule Michael Johnson wrote: > > > I can confirm that Jonathan's claim is false. > > _Twin Books v Disney (83 F 3d 1162)_ is the case law, and as such > confirms what I wrote. > > I am not a lawyer. This is not

Re: [sword-devel] Hosting non-US public domain modules

2016-01-22 Thread jonathon
On 22/01/2016 18:15, Kahunapule Michael Johnson wrote: > I can confirm that Jonathan's claim is false. _Twin Books v Disney (83 F 3d 1162)_ is the case law, and as such confirms what I wrote. I am not a lawyer. This is not legal advice. jonathon signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital si

Re: [sword-devel] Hosting non-US public domain modules

2016-01-22 Thread jhphx
What you say is in line with what I remember to be the case. But I haven't checked in a long time. There is also DMCA which criminalizes the act of circumventing an access control even for PD texts. This only means one has to be careful about how one obtains the PD texts. One of the treaties,

Re: [sword-devel] Hosting non-US public domain modules

2016-01-22 Thread Kahunapule Michael Johnson
I can confirm that Jonathan's claim is false. See http://copyright.cornell.edu/resources/publicdomain.cfm http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ15a.pdf https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries%27_copyright_lengths etc. We err on the side of cautio

Re: [sword-devel] Hosting non-US public domain modules

2016-01-22 Thread DM Smith
It’s really complicated. It used to be a short time (IIRC 17 years). Then it was lengthened to lifetime. But the definition of lifetime is really complicated. It depends on who created the work (e.g. individual or group). And it may be defined in terms of the immediate heirs. Further complicated

Re: [sword-devel] Hosting non-US public domain modules

2016-01-22 Thread Peter von Kaehne
Dear Jonathon,  you were told many, far too many times that you are not welcome on this list. Please move on.  Kind regards PvK On Fri, 2016-01-22 at 14:17 +, jonathon wrote: > On 22/01/2016 10:57, Baiju M wrote: > > > What kind of proof will be required? Do we need complete scan > > avail

Re: [sword-devel] Hosting non-US public domain modules

2016-01-22 Thread Peter von Kaehne
On Fri, 2016-01-22 at 20:11 +0530, Baiju M wrote: >  > If this is correct, we may need to take down the Malayalam bible from > the Crosswire server. The Malayalam bible was published in 1910. So, > can anyone please confirm on this? Jonathon is not a person anyone on this list gives any credit for

Re: [sword-devel] Hosting non-US public domain modules

2016-01-22 Thread Greg Hellings
Aren't all (or almost all) copyrights from before 1940 expired at this point, under US Law? I thought there was a 76 year expiration on those older copyrights. --Greg On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 8:32 AM, David Haslam wrote: > If anyone in a suitable jurisdiction is interested, here's the tech stuff.

Re: [sword-devel] Hosting non-US public domain modules

2016-01-22 Thread Fred Smith
On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 08:11:05PM +0530, Baiju M wrote: > On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 7:47 PM, jonathon wrote: > > On 22/01/2016 10:57, Baiju M wrote: > > > >> What kind of proof will be required? Do we need complete scan available in > >> public? > > > > US Case Law implies that works first publish

Re: [sword-devel] Hosting non-US public domain modules

2016-01-22 Thread David Haslam
If anyone in a suitable jurisdiction is interested, here's the tech stuff. http://www.crosswire.org/wiki/Creating_and_Maintaining_a_Module_Repository David -- View this message in context: http://sword-dev.350566.n4.nabble.com/Hosting-non-US-public-domain-modules-tp4655871p4655877.html Sent f

Re: [sword-devel] Hosting non-US public domain modules

2016-01-22 Thread David Haslam
Which of the repos in our Master List are located outside the USA ? Obviously IBT is, but who knows what the copyright rules are in Russia? Perhaps we need to ask someone to create and maintain a module repository on a "Third Party" server outside the USA and outside Russia/CIS? Would this meet

Re: [sword-devel] Hosting non-US public domain modules

2016-01-22 Thread Baiju M
On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 7:47 PM, jonathon wrote: > On 22/01/2016 10:57, Baiju M wrote: > >> What kind of proof will be required? Do we need complete scan available in >> public? > > US Case Law implies that works first published in a language other > than English, and first published outside of t

Re: [sword-devel] Hosting non-US public domain modules

2016-01-22 Thread jonathon
On 22/01/2016 10:57, Baiju M wrote: > What kind of proof will be required? Do we need complete scan available in > public? US Case Law implies that works first published in a language other than English, and first published outside of the United States, and first published after 1909, are under

Re: [sword-devel] Hosting non-US public domain modules

2016-01-22 Thread David Haslam
It also depends on whatever treaties might exist. For general background, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berne_Convention and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Millennium_Copyright_Act Also not a lawyer! David -- View this message in context: http://sword-dev.350566.n4.nabble.com/Hosting-

Re: [sword-devel] Hosting non-US public domain modules

2016-01-22 Thread Peter Von Kaehne
> Gesendet: Freitag, 22. Januar 2016 um 10:57 Uhr > Von: "Baiju M" > An: "SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum" > Betreff: [sword-devel] Hosting non-US public domain modules > > Hi, > > Some of my friends are working on proofreading few Indian langu

[sword-devel] Hosting non-US public domain modules

2016-01-22 Thread Baiju M
Hi, Some of my friends are working on proofreading few Indian language Bibles which are copyright expired in India - published before 1955 (more than 60 years). Can Crosswire host these modules in the main repository? What kind of proof will be required? Do we need complete scan available in publ