Re: [sword-devel] Fwd: GPL and other license related questions

2008-01-29 Thread DM Smith
On Jan 27, 2008, at 6:19 PM, Paul Gear wrote: > Chris Little wrote: >> ... >> No one who has argued against changing the current licensing has >> accused >> commercial interests of being evil or has criticized the creation of >> commercial software. The whole "commercial software is evil" meme

Re: [sword-devel] Fwd: GPL and other license related questions

2008-01-29 Thread Paul Gear
Chris Little wrote: > ... > No one who has argued against changing the current licensing has accused > commercial interests of being evil or has criticized the creation of > commercial software. The whole "commercial software is evil" meme came > from the other camp, > ... > We're not going to e

Re: [sword-devel] Fwd: GPL and other license related questions

2008-01-27 Thread Chris Little
jonathon wrote: > Chris wrote: > >> people who assume GPL means PD, take our work, rename & repackage, > ... >> indeed rip them off in much worse ways). > > Most of what I've seen with commercially distributed Sword Project > front ends have been outright GPL violations. As a Bible Society, >

Re: [sword-devel] Fwd: GPL and other license related questions

2008-01-27 Thread peter
As someone who does not code, but is a translator only, can I say something: I am delighted that this project is GPL. It allows me to do all those things any "gratis but unfree" license so commonly used by others does not.Often As a church we can distribute Sword software and target specifically

Re: [sword-devel] Fwd: GPL and other license related questions

2008-01-27 Thread Greg Hellings
Jonathan, On Jan 27, 2008 4:19 PM, jonathon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yes, all of that is true and fine - the GPL satisfies all of those requirements. As do others, like the LGPL and similar licenses. > > Both the GPL and LGPL allow for commercial distribution. Or > redistribution by those w

Re: [sword-devel] Fwd: GPL and other license related questions

2008-01-27 Thread jonathon
Chris wrote: > people who assume GPL means PD, take our work, rename & repackage, ... > indeed rip them off in much worse ways). Most of what I've seen with commercially distributed Sword Project front ends have been outright GPL violations. As a Bible Society, lawsuits, or the threat of them ma

Re: [sword-devel] Fwd: GPL and other license related questions

2008-01-27 Thread jonathon
Greg wrote: > The GPL thus enforces the fact that anyone else who builds software off of > the backs of people who have contributed to the Sword project is required to > provide that software free-of-charge. I was going to stay out of this thread, until I read that comment. Here is a slightly m

Re: [sword-devel] Fwd: GPL and other license related questions

2008-01-27 Thread Chris Little
Jonathan Morgan wrote: > However, I do not think > that the objection apparent on this mailing list to even discuss > rationally the licensing without essentially saying, "We want it this > way to stop those evil commercial people from making any money from > our hard work" supports this goal at

Re: [sword-devel] Fwd: GPL and other license related questions

2008-01-27 Thread Jonathan Morgan
This thread has generated a lot of heated debate that I think is incidental to the real purpose of the licensing and of the existence of the Sword project and Crosswire in general (though of course I cannot speak for Crosswire, and probably don't want to). I think that the Sword developers really

Re: [sword-devel] Fwd: GPL and other license related questions

2008-01-26 Thread Greg Hellings
On Jan 26, 2008 6:19 PM, Jason Galyon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Titus 3:10-11 > Eh? What exactly is your point here? Trying to warn yourself about your own behavior? I may not speak for the rest of the people on the list, but my feeling about the GPL are as follows: When I put time or ener

Re: [sword-devel] Fwd: GPL and other license related questions

2008-01-26 Thread Jason Galyon
Titus 3:10-11 Chris Little wrote: > [Forwarding message per request. Sorry, I can't advise how to fix the > sending problem. --Chris] > > Begin forwarded message: > > >> From: Moses McKnight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Date: January 26, 2008 3:59:22 PM PST >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Subject: Re:

[sword-devel] Fwd: GPL and other license related questions

2008-01-26 Thread Chris Little
[Forwarding message per request. Sorry, I can't advise how to fix the sending problem. --Chris] Begin forwarded message: > From: Moses McKnight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: January 26, 2008 3:59:22 PM PST > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [sword-devel] GPL and other license related question