Re: [sword-devel] EarlyFathers Genbook and the ability to search genbooks

2008-06-09 Thread Daniel Owens
Remember that most users probably don't keep modules of many languages installed, perhaps one, two, or at most three modern languages. And then again, if you just add the option to select all, developers who install the whole repository don't have to choose it. :) Even if you had the option of

Re: [sword-devel] EarlyFathers Genbook and the ability to search genbooks

2008-06-09 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
"Jonathan Morgan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > So does GS allow searching in more than one of these modules at once? > Or do you just search in one, then the next, then the next, etc.? In Advanced Search, click the Custom Lists tab. Create a new list, name it, and add modules to it with the "+"

Re: [sword-devel] EarlyFathers Genbook and the ability to search genbooks

2008-06-09 Thread Brian J. Dumont
>> Would it be too hard to create a "verse list" so that one could save >> the search results and view them later. That way you could make full >> use of cross references, dictionaries, and such when viewing search >> results. >> > > Our feature taxonomy is not quite orthogonally complete: In

Re: [sword-devel] EarlyFathers Genbook and the ability to search genbooks

2008-06-09 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
Daniel Owens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Shame on me for not knowing GS better (I've just never been a fan of > Gnome's look). Hardly a cause for shame, I surely don't know enough about BT, either, for exactly the same reason. > I really like the advanced search dialog (I never knew it was the

Re: [sword-devel] EarlyFathers Genbook and the ability to search genbooks

2008-06-08 Thread Daniel Owens
Shame on me for not knowing GS better (I've just never been a fan of Gnome's look). I really like the advanced search dialog (I never knew it was there!), though a "search all modules" or something like that would be nice to save time. Or perhaps in the custom list creation dialog a button that

Re: [sword-devel] EarlyFathers Genbook and the ability to search genbooks

2008-06-08 Thread Jonathan Morgan
On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 12:57 PM, DM Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jun 8, 2008, at 10:27 PM, Jonathan Morgan wrote: > >> OT: have you >> ever wanted to find a verse, but been unable to find the right words >> to type for the particular version you are using - having synonym >> suggestion u

Re: [sword-devel] EarlyFathers Genbook and the ability to search genbooks

2008-06-08 Thread Jonathan Morgan
On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 12:50 PM, DM Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jun 8, 2008, at 10:27 PM, Jonathan Morgan wrote: > >> applications should >> allow searching more than one commentary/genbook at the same time > > Good idea. > > In the wiki, we are trying to put together a "Features List"

Re: [sword-devel] EarlyFathers Genbook and the ability to search genbooks

2008-06-08 Thread Daniel Owens
The idea of being able to search not only text but also keys and cross-references is exciting. That way if you are searching for "faith" you don't get thousands of hits that aren't so useful but you can focus on hits that are speaking directly to the issue of faith rather than just making an in

Re: [sword-devel] EarlyFathers Genbook and the ability to search genbooks

2008-06-08 Thread DM Smith
On Jun 8, 2008, at 10:27 PM, Jonathan Morgan wrote: > OT: have you > ever wanted to find a verse, but been unable to find the right words > to type for the particular version you are using - having synonym > suggestion using something like wordnet is another thing that might be > worth looking at

Re: [sword-devel] EarlyFathers Genbook and the ability to search genbooks

2008-06-08 Thread DM Smith
On Jun 8, 2008, at 10:27 PM, Jonathan Morgan wrote: > applications should > allow searching more than one commentary/genbook at the same time Good idea. In the wiki, we are trying to put together a "Features List" for the ideal application: http://www.crosswire.org/wiki/index.php/Frontends:Fe

Re: [sword-devel] EarlyFathers Genbook and the ability to search genbooks

2008-06-08 Thread Jonathan Morgan
On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 12:32 PM, Karl Kleinpaste <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Jonathan Morgan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> have you ever wanted to find a verse, but been unable to find the >> right words to type for the particular version you are using > > :-) > > In GS, I use a custom module l

Re: [sword-devel] EarlyFathers Genbook and the ability to search genbooks

2008-06-08 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
"Jonathan Morgan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > have you ever wanted to find a verse, but been unable to find the > right words to type for the particular version you are using :-) In GS, I use a custom module list I call "Good Translations" in which I have included all the English modules I've g

Re: [sword-devel] EarlyFathers Genbook and the ability to search genbooks

2008-06-08 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
Daniel Owens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > the wrong notice would only look ridiculous to the > kind of people who would make use of this. The one-sentence addition to About is a minor yet accurate summary. > Regarding the question of breaking up the module, if there aren't > major performance pr

Re: [sword-devel] EarlyFathers Genbook and the ability to search genbooks

2008-06-08 Thread Jonathan Morgan
On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 11:46 AM, Daniel Owens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't personally have a strong opinion about identifying the EarlyFathers > Genbook as containing heretical material, though I think Eeli is right that > the wrong notice would only look ridiculous to the kind of people wh

Re: [sword-devel] EarlyFathers Genbook and the ability to search genbooks

2008-06-08 Thread DM Smith
On Jun 8, 2008, at 9:46 PM, Daniel Owens wrote: > That brings me to another issue: the ability to search genbooks and > commentaries. I have a vague memory of comments on this forum to the > effect that such a feature isn't necessary or desireable, but the > Father's module is a prime examp

Re: [sword-devel] EarlyFathers Genbook and the ability to search genbooks

2008-06-08 Thread Daniel Owens
I don't personally have a strong opinion about identifying the EarlyFathers Genbook as containing heretical material, though I think Eeli is right that the wrong notice would only look ridiculous to the kind of people who would make use of this. Regarding the question of breaking up the modul

Re: [sword-devel] EarlyFathers Genbook

2008-06-08 Thread Brian J. Dumont
Karl Kleinpaste wrote: > "Brian J. Dumont" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> I'd strongly be in favor of a notice in the About section that this >> module contains a wide swath of texts of interest to Biblical scholars, >> including documents that have historically and currently are considered >>

Re: [sword-devel] EarlyFathers Genbook

2008-06-08 Thread DM Smith
On Jun 8, 2008, at 3:30 PM, Brian J. Dumont wrote: > >> If this is one huge module it's not a big problem because casual >> readers >> will avoid it and people can see what it is. It's also easy to add a >> notice in the About section. However, if the module is chopped in >> pieces >> it's ha

Re: [sword-devel] EarlyFathers Genbook

2008-06-08 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
"Brian J. Dumont" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'd strongly be in favor of a notice in the About section that this > module contains a wide swath of texts of interest to Biblical scholars, > including documents that have historically and currently are considered > heretical as well as documents wh

Re: [sword-devel] EarlyFathers Genbook

2008-06-08 Thread Brian J. Dumont
> If this is one huge module it's not a big problem because casual readers > will avoid it and people can see what it is. It's also easy to add a > notice in the About section. However, if the module is chopped in pieces > it's harder to say whether some module is part of this compilation or a > r

Re: [sword-devel] EarlyFathers Genbook

2008-06-08 Thread Greg Hellings
On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 1:52 AM, Brian J. Dumont <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We should really be careful here. These volumes seem to contain both > orthodox and non-orthodox documents; including a number of heretical > texts: see in particular volume 8. I haven't delved into these texts, > but a

Re: [sword-devel] EarlyFathers Genbook

2008-06-08 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
DM Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > To a large degree, > the ability to think critically is missing in today's church. Apropos of this, I'd like to put in a plug for The Theology Program, about which you can learn at http://reclaimingthemind.org. I've taken the 1st 3 (of 9) courses onsite as

Re: [sword-devel] EarlyFathers Genbook

2008-06-08 Thread DM Smith
On Jun 7, 2008, at 9:52 PM, Brian J. Dumont wrote: > We should really be careful here. These volumes seem to contain both > orthodox and non-orthodox documents; including a number of heretical > texts: see in particular volume 8. I haven't delved into these texts, > but a number of them are cer

Re: [sword-devel] EarlyFathers Genbook

2008-06-08 Thread Eeli Kaikkonen
On Sat, 7 Jun 2008, Brian J. Dumont wrote: > We should really be careful here. These volumes seem to contain both > orthodox and non-orthodox documents; including a number of heretical > texts: see in particular volume 8. I haven't delved into these texts, > but a number of them are certainly qu

Re: [sword-devel] EarlyFathers Genbook

2008-06-08 Thread Peter von Kaehne
Brian J. Dumont wrote: > We should really be careful here. These volumes seem to contain both > orthodox and non-orthodox documents; including a number of heretical > texts: see in particular volume 8. Some of the texts are more than doubtful - all that pseudoepigraphic fake NT stuff in Vol 8 is

[sword-devel] EarlyFathers Genbook

2008-06-07 Thread Brian J. Dumont
We should really be careful here. These volumes seem to contain both orthodox and non-orthodox documents; including a number of heretical texts: see in particular volume 8. I haven't delved into these texts, but a number of them are certainly questionable. Should the document have some sort of d