Re: [sword-devel] ESV

Alas, but it is a cruel hoax for April Fools Day. REAL press releases from Crossway would be at https://www.crossway.org/press-room/press-releases/. In the mean time, enjoy the REAL public domain or Creative Commons licensed Bible translations we actually do have access to and thank God for tho

Re: [sword-devel] ESV

Definitely April fools. "This is truly a reason for thanksgiving, or at least it would be if we were announcing this on any other day of the year." Robert. On 4/2/25 14:19, Michael H wrote: The date of this article causes me to question it, but I don't see any joke angle that makes sense. So

[sword-devel] ESV

The date of this article causes me to question it, but I don't see any joke angle that makes sense. Someone on a legitimate biblical translation mail list posted the headline "Crossway releases ESV into the public domain," with a link to this article: https://sellingjesus.org/articles/af-esv I do

Re: [sword-devel] ESV

Thanks Michael, They "dropped" the backpayment demand and took a much nicer tone when I asked for upper management to get involved in the conversation.  I appreciate the offer to help, though. Troy On 7/6/19 9:28 AM, Michael H wrote: > Troy,  > > Following up on the amount due.  I know the orga

Re: [sword-devel] ESV

Troy, Following up on the amount due. I know the organization itself doesn't do money, but if they continue to chase crosswire for that money, is there a way to contribute to that? On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 12:19 PM Troy A. Griffitts wrote: > Hi Tuomas, > > Yes, Crossway has decided to ask us ag

Re: [sword-devel] ESV

Thank you, Troy, for letting us know what is going on with the ESV. As the copyright owners for the ESV, Crosswire has the legal right to deny use of the ESV with our software, as disappointing as that is. Apparently, they only want to give it away for free for use with their own proprietary soft

Re: [sword-devel] ESV

Hi Tuomas, Yes, Crossway has decided to ask us again to stop distributing the ESV.  We deal with new people there all the time and explaining to them how we work and our "family" of applications, and that open source software does not mean open source Bibles, is a challenge.  For the past 10 years

[sword-devel] ESV

Hi, And Bible user notified me that popular ESV module has disappeared and I checked that it indeed is not listed in AB module listings at the moment. What happened? -- T: Tuomas ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crossw

Re: [sword-devel] ESV vs ESV

Module *ESV2011* has this construction (or similar) in 7123 locations: Lord SWORD filters do not render the word *Lord* with *small-caps* when it's inside the *w* element inserted for *Strong's Numbers*. This would have worked OK, of course, Lord but that's not what was done by Tyndale House.

Re: [sword-devel] ESV vs ESV

*ESV2001* still has this unchanged: SwordVersionDate=2010-08-07 NB. I have just updated this issue in our tracker: http://tracker.crosswire.org/browse/MOD-328 The issue should be left open until the matter of the *SwordVersionDate* has been reviewed. Best regards, David -- View this messag

Re: [sword-devel] ESV vs ESV

Hi David For the sake of the thread, a recap of the offline conversation In terms of the questions below: * have there been any updates? That's a question for Tyndale House rather than me. I've emailed him off thread and copied you in. * do we have a formal procedure - yet but manual and as a res

Re: [sword-devel] ESV vs ESV

I have already sent Peter my copy of the ESV-THE module which I had renamed as ESV_THE because of the invalid hyphen in the module name. NB. When I renamed my copy, I didn't increment the version number. This module was downloaded from STEP on 2017-01-24 and installed in my PC on 2017-01-25. It w

Re: [sword-devel] ESV vs ESV

Yes, please!   Peter   Gesendet: Dienstag, 16. Mai 2017 um 16:21 Uhr Von: "Chris Burrell" An: "SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum" Betreff: Re: [sword-devel] ESV vs ESV Hi Peter   Tyndale House would be very happy to send you the module. I believe we

Re: [sword-devel] ESV vs ESV

Hi Peter Tyndale House would be very happy to send you the module. I believe we've sent it to DM in the past - shout if you want it again. From recollection I think AndBible is also using ours. The process for building it is to take the ESV from XML, and then we run some automation to enhance the

[sword-devel] ESV vs ESV

In the light of David's comments on the other thread I have now transitioned our ESV modules to following: The old ESV module reflecting the text of 2001 is reissued as ESV2001, obsoleting the ESV. No other changes, same files, minor conf change. The new ESV module is now reissued as ESV2011, ob

Re: [sword-devel] ESV modules and Tyndale House

This sparse comment serves merely to bring the earlier thread to your attention, following Peter's announcement of the ESVS module being released. David -- View this message in context: http://sword-dev.350566.n4.nabble.com/ESV-modules-and-Tyndale-House-tp4656667p4657156.html Sent from the SWO

Re: [sword-devel] ESV modules and Tyndale House

Hi Fred, If you have STEP Bible installed, it's very likely that it came with that. STEP uses the same Sword path as other front-ends, so Xiphos would also find it there. There were five or six modules from TH containing the hyphen, and they will soon be renamed. If you'd had xiphos (aka MK 31.4

Re: [sword-devel] ESV modules and Tyndale House

On Wed, Feb 08, 2017 at 09:58:12AM -0800, David Haslam wrote: > The ESV module on CrossWire Main is based on the Crossway Bibles 2001 > Version. > > Our friends at Tyndale House (STEP Bible) have distribution rights for their > own ESV module (Tyndale House Edition - complete with Strongs numbers)

[sword-devel] ESV modules and Tyndale House

The ESV module on CrossWire Main is based on the Crossway Bibles 2001 Version. Our friends at Tyndale House (STEP Bible) have distribution rights for their own ESV module (Tyndale House Edition - complete with Strongs numbers) and this is based on the Crossway Bibles 2011 Version. I feel that we

Re: [sword-devel] ESV module updated to current version possible?

Still looking forward to this to show up in the Crosswire Beta repo! Thanks for your work. -- View this message in context: http://sword-dev.350566.n4.nabble.com/ESV-module-updated-to-current-version-possible-tp4650937p4653138.html Sent from the SWORD Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. _

Re: [sword-devel] ESV module updated to current version possible?

Yes. It should be in the beta repo soon. Cent from my fone so theer mite be tipos. ;) On Sep 15, 2013, at 5:44 PM, kahu wrote: > any chance this upgrade will be taking. place soon within Sword repos? > I love seeing the strong work Tyndale has put into the ESV 2011 text. > > > > -- > View t

Re: [sword-devel] ESV module updated to current version possible?

any chance this upgrade will be taking. place soon within Sword repos? I love seeing the strong work Tyndale has put into the ESV 2011 text. -- View this message in context: http://sword-dev.350566.n4.nabble.com/ESV-module-updated-to-current-version-possible-tp4650937p4653127.html Sent from the

Re: [sword-devel] ESV module updated to current version possible?

Wonderful news, I'm eagerly anticipating this. It will be very helpful to have 2007 modules, especially looking forward to 2011 changes getting added in. I would love to help if needed too. -- View this message in context: http://sword-dev.350566.n4.nabble.com/ESV-module-updated-to-current-ve

Re: [sword-devel] ESV module updated to current version possible?

The work of tagging the ESV 2007 is almost complete on the Tyndale House front. I'm not sure if this is holding up any further development of the ESV 2007 work by DM? And, I'm not sure if we've got the latest ESV text for the ESV 2011. If so, there would be nothing stopping us from making that int

Re: [sword-devel] ESV module updated to current version possible?

any updated work on the ESV module? I'm looking forward to this! -- View this message in context: http://sword-dev.350566.n4.nabble.com/ESV-module-updated-to-current-version-possible-tp4650937p4652119.html Sent from the SWORD Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: [sword-devel] ESV module updated to current version possible?

I've just alerted Brian Fernandez of FireBible . David -- View this message in context: http://sword-dev.350566.n4.nabble.com/ESV-module-updated-to-current-version-possible-tp4650937p4651980.html Sent from the SWORD Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __

Re: [sword-devel] ESV module updated to current version possible?

Hi, On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 9:50 PM, DM Smith wrote: > I like 3 day holidays! I'm devoting it to finishing up some long awaited > changes: > > JSword -- av11n (done) and ftp (prototyped, good enough to put off till > later ;) > > > Nice av11n (done) +1, need to update my code to integrate the la

Re: [sword-devel] ESV module updated to current version possible?

"JSword -- av11n (done)" This is much appreciated - and will increase the urgency for JSword based front-ends to be updated to support it. (especially And Bible) David -- View this message in context: http://sword-dev.350566.n4.nabble.com/ESV-module-updated-to-current-version-possible-tp465

Re: [sword-devel] ESV module updated to current version possible?

I like 3 day holidays! I'm devoting it to finishing up some long awaited changes: JSword -- av11n (done) and ftp (prototyped, good enough to put off till later ;) KJV -- bug in osis2mod which is adding spaces before punctuation in colophons. ESV -- need to verify the xml is valid OSIS. I have t

Re: [sword-devel] ESV module updated to current version possible?

Hi Martin DM is currently working on the ESV 2007, at which point Tyndale will add (once the work is finished) the Strong tagging to it. I'm not sure when the 2011 work will happen, but as far as the tagging is concerned we're hoping it shouldn't be too difficult to move it from 2007 to 2011. Chr

Re: [sword-devel] ESV module updated to current version possible?

I had a query regarding an ESV version update from an AB user recently: "... I have to admit some surprise when I found the text that pastor was using was different in places. For example, Isa. “he was wounded for our transgressions” in the app, but “pierced for our transgressions” in the church B

Re: [sword-devel] ESV: Red Letter Edition Errors

This bug persists. Has anyone managed to pinpoint the cause? ~A On Thursday, August 16, 2012, Karl Kleinpaste wrote: > By the way, the bug I reported below in March also has yet to be addressed. > > http://www.crosswire.org/pipermail/sword-devel/2012-March/037501.html > > __

[sword-devel] ESV module updated to current version possible?

I would love to help with text errors too. I'm really not sure where to start with this. Are the texts/versions something I can checkout through SVN or another source? ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mai

Re: [sword-devel] ESV module updated to current version possible?

... and I'd be willing help this effort by pointing out errors extant in the current module ... On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 1:35 PM, Jared Meidal wrote: > I would love to see the ESV version updated to reflect 2011 changes for > CrossWire Bibles. Is this something I can contribute to by manual chang

[sword-devel] ESV module updated to current version possible?

I would love to see the ESV version updated to reflect 2011 changes for CrossWire Bibles. Is this something I can contribute to by manual changes in mark-up code? I've seen this module remain at 1.0.1 (Copyright © 2001 by Crossway Bibles) for a long time. I currently use Xiphos, AndBible and

Re: [sword-devel] ESV: Red Letter Edition Errors

Another observation related to this bug is that it doesn't seem to honour tags in the first couple of verses either. Look at [Psa 116:1-2], [Psa 118:1-2] in r2715 against earlier stock versions. Perhaps there are other tags not being honoured. ~A On Thursday, August 16, 2012, Karl Kleinpaste w

Re: [sword-devel] ESV: Red Letter Edition Errors

Yes, my compiled version is kept up to date, and currently r2715, and only noticed some time after 2703. Glad I wasn't imagining it. On Thursday, August 16, 2012, Karl Kleinpaste wrote: > By the way, the bug I reported below in March also has yet to be addressed. > > http://www.crosswire.org/pip

Re: [sword-devel] ESV: Red Letter Edition Errors

By the way, the bug I reported below in March also has yet to be addressed. http://www.crosswire.org/pipermail/sword-devel/2012-March/037501.html ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-dev

Re: [sword-devel] ESV: Red Letter Edition Errors

It's a (recent) sword problem. I concur that in Xiphos 3.1.5-win32, all the red letters look fine. That's with a stock libsword as of when 3.1.5 was released (though current SVN then, as built by Greg). But on my usual Linux systems, the breakage is seen. (FYI, also Matt 25:1,14,31.) There, swo

Re: [sword-devel] ESV: Red Letter Edition Errors in [Matt 18:10][Matt 18:15][Matt 20:1] - Xiphos and Bibletime both show this error

It's looking like its my installation only. Perplexing. Sorry for the false alarm. ~ A On Thursday, August 16, 2012, David Haslam wrote: > I already mentioned Xiphos, and I didn't look at BibleTime. > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://sword-dev.350566.n4.nabble.com/ESV-Red-Lette

Re: [sword-devel] ESV: Red Letter Edition Errors in [Matt 18:10][Matt 18:15][Matt 20:1] - Xiphos and Bibletime both show this error

I already mentioned Xiphos, and I didn't look at BibleTime. -- View this message in context: http://sword-dev.350566.n4.nabble.com/ESV-Red-Letter-Edition-Errors-in-Matt-18-10-Matt-18-15-Matt-20-1-Xiphos-and-Bibletime-both-show-thisr-tp4650880p4650888.html Sent from the SWORD Dev mailing list ar

Re: [sword-devel] ESV: Red Letter Edition Errors in [Matt 18:10][Matt 18:15][Matt 20:1] - Xiphos and Bibletime both show this error

It's working fine for me on Linux Mint 13. I am right now still using the stock 3.1.5 on the Mint repos. On 08/16/2012 09:33 AM, Andrew Thule wrote: Yes, I just tested in Windows, and it works for me in windows, but not in Linux. The difference being that I'm running the stock package in W

Re: [sword-devel] ESV: Red Letter Edition Errors in [Matt 18:10][Matt 18:15][Matt 20:1] - Xiphos and Bibletime both show this error

Yes, I just tested in Windows, and it works for me in windows, but not in Linux. The difference being that I'm running the stock package in Windows, but compiling from source in Linux, Bibletime, Xiphos, and Sword. Sounding like it is my (Linux) install only. :( ~A On Thursday, August 16, 2012,

Re: [sword-devel] ESV: Red Letter Edition Errors in [Matt 18:10][Matt 18:15][Matt 20:1] - Xiphos and Bibletime both show this error

Are you seeing them though in Xiphos or Bibletime, ( can anyone else recreate this) or is it just me? ~ On Thursday, August 16, 2012, David Haslam wrote: > These verses display correctly as red text in both *xulsword* and in *Bible > Desktop*. > > Even in *xiphos.exe 3.1.5-webkit* (Windows) these

Re: [sword-devel] ESV: Red Letter Edition Errors in [Matt 18:10][Matt 18:15][Matt 20:1] - Xiphos and Bibletime both show this error

These verses display correctly as red text in both *xulsword* and in *Bible Desktop*. Even in *xiphos.exe 3.1.5-webkit* (Windows) these display correctly, with or without headings shown. David -- View this message in context: http://sword-dev.350566.n4.nabble.com/ESV-Red-Letter-Edition-Errors

[sword-devel] ESV: Red Letter Edition Errors in [Matt 18:10][Matt 18:15][Matt 20:1] - Xiphos and Bibletime both show this error

I've tested this in both Xiphos and Bibletime and the 'Red Letters' of Jesus' words appears black, not read in [Matt 18:10] and [Matt 18:15]. There may be more instances (such as [Matt 20:1]), but these are the three I've found. In [Matt 18:10] Jesus' words follow an inter-verse title. He says "

Re: [sword-devel] ESV title filter failure

If you look closely, you can see the command line calls Peter used. Most of the details come from the lookup util, which is actually found in the examples/cmdline directory of the source tree. --Chris On 7/17/2012 9:25 AM, Andrew Thule wrote: Just curious, how are you breaking this down so ni

Re: [sword-devel] ESV title filter failure

Just curious, how are you breaking this down so nicely into the Entry Attributes? Do you have a script or something that helps you look at nesting, and xml parsing? ~Andrew On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 3:12 AM, Peter von Kaehne wrote: > On Thu, 2012-06-21 at 19:22 -0400, Karl Kleinpaste wrote: >> di

Re: [sword-devel] ESV title filter failure

On Thu, 2012-06-21 at 19:22 -0400, Karl Kleinpaste wrote: > diatheke -b ESV -o fmhncvalsbx -k 'mark 16:9' peter@AOA110:~/Source/sword/examples/cmdline$ diatheke -b ESV -o fmhncvalsbx -k 'mark 16:9' Mark 16:9: [Some of the earliest manuscripts do not include 16:9-20.] [] Jesus Appears to Mary Magd

[sword-devel] ESV title filter failure

diatheke -b ESV -o fmhncvalsbx -k 'mark 16:9' ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page

Re: [sword-devel] ESV module - 12 verses that start with a comma

There are some more occurrences of the same issue at places other than the start of a verse. A search of the exported IMP file for ", http://sword-dev.350566.n4.nabble.com/ESV-module-12-verses-that-start-with-a-comma-tp3675045p3676105.html Sent from the SWORD Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com

Re: [sword-devel] ESV module - 12 verses that start with a comma

Here is 2Sa 11:1 at ESVBible.org (http://www.esvbible.org/search/2Sa+11%3A1/), which has no comma at the beginning. (I'm not at home right now, so the hardcopy in not an option.) Peace, David ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire

Re: [sword-devel] ESV module - 12 verses that start with a comma

Thanks Karl, That's how I understood it too. In more general terms, it's "free text" in between multiple cross-reference notes. We've come across even worse situations while "cleaning up" source text files to help a translator. cf. Translations made using Paratext (USFM) can easily end up with

Re: [sword-devel] ESV module - 12 verses that start with a comma

I added a comment to the bug. It's a problem that's been mentioned before. The problem is the encoding of side-by-side xrefs as: ..., ... where the comma is stand-alone, outside the constraint of either of the 2 notes. ___ sword-devel mailing list: swo

Re: [sword-devel] ESV module - 12 verses that start with a comma

Now added as http://www.crosswire.org/bugs/browse/MOD-162 Couldn't figure how to assign it to someone. David -- View this message in context: http://sword-dev.350566.n4.nabble.com/ESV-module-12-verses-that-start-with-a-comma-tp3675045p3675131.html Sent from the SWORD Dev mailing list archive at

Re: [sword-devel] ESV module - 12 verses that start with a comma

Looks like it's a module bug; the commas are a residue of twin cross-references. They should disappear when cross-references are hidden (e.g. in Xiphos module options). I'll add an issue in JIRA under modules. David -- View this message in context: http://sword-dev.350566.n4.nabble.com/ESV-modu

Re: [sword-devel] ESV module - 12 verses that start with a comma

I have a paper copy, but not the time right now to check it. Please report it as a bug and assign to me. On Jul 18, 2011, at 7:33 AM, David Haslam wrote: > Our household doesn't have a printed edition of the ESV, > so could someone please check whether the following 12 verses really do > start

[sword-devel] ESV module - 12 verses that start with a comma

Our household doesn't have a printed edition of the ESV, so could someone please check whether the following 12 verses really do start with a comma, like they do in the ESV module. 2Sa 11:1 2Sa 24:1 1Ch 6:4 1Ch 8:29 2Ch 4:11 Isa 14:8 Mat 27:32 Mar 6:30 Mar 16:1 Luk 6:37 Luk 7:18 Luk 8:16 Than

Re: [sword-devel] ESV comma errors in paired xrefs

Hi Karl, I'm not going to say that is encoded correctly, because it's obviously not. However, comparing with my paper ESV, it is worth noting that they are two separate footnotes that are separated by a comma (e.g. y, z). Jon On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 5:57 AM, Karl Kleinpaste wrote: > ESV Isaiah

Re: [sword-devel] ESV comma errors in paired xrefs

Speaking of commas, there are some places in the KJV module where, if the text is output using diatheke to RTF format, the space present in the module is missing after the comma in the output. These could probably be traced back to a particular construction in the OSIS source file, were anyone inc

[sword-devel] ESV comma errors in paired xrefs

ESV Isaiah 1:10a 10 Hear the word of the LORD, you rulers of *xy, *xz Sodom! "*x_" are Xiphos' xrefs. The comma separating these two is not properly encoded as being part of the xref itself; if one turns off xrefs, the comma remains, creating a very odd, very wrong bit of punctuation. A simpl

[sword-devel] ESV (2007 revision)

Has anyone from Crosswire ever asked Crossway Bibles if we could distribute the 2007 revision of the ESV instead of the 2001 revision? In casual use, I've noticed a number of the changes, and they seem to be thoughtful improvements. I'd be glad to do so, but it seems like it would be best if whoe

Re: [sword-devel] ESV clucene search oddities

2009/12/24 Dmitrijs Ledkovs : > 2009/12/24 Matthew Talbert : >>> >>> On Fedora11, I have 0.9.21 (not "b"), and Xiphos finds "crystal" in Rev >>> 9:21 with latest Sword SVN.  I didn't even rebuild the index. >> >> So, it's looking like it's very likely a clucene issue which is now resolved. >> > > W

Re: [sword-devel] ESV clucene search oddities

2009/12/24 Matthew Talbert : >> >> On Fedora11, I have 0.9.21 (not "b"), and Xiphos finds "crystal" in Rev >> 9:21 with latest Sword SVN.  I didn't even rebuild the index. > > So, it's looking like it's very likely a clucene issue which is now resolved. > Would you want me to backport clucene from

Re: [sword-devel] ESV clucene search oddities

> > On Fedora11, I have 0.9.21 (not "b"), and Xiphos finds "crystal" in Rev > 9:21 with latest Sword SVN.  I didn't even rebuild the index. So, it's looking like it's very likely a clucene issue which is now resolved. ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword

Re: [sword-devel] ESV clucene search oddities

Matthew Talbert writes: > The other variable is that on Ubuntu, I have clucene 0.9.20-3, whereas > on Windows I'm using the newer 0.9.21b. Which version are you using? On Fedora11, I have 0.9.21 (not "b"), and Xiphos finds "crystal" in Rev 9:21 with latest Sword SVN. I didn't even rebuild the in

Re: [sword-devel] ESV clucene search oddities (was: SWORD 1.6.1)

The other variable is that on Ubuntu, I have clucene 0.9.20-3, whereas on Windows I'm using the newer 0.9.21b. Which version are you using? Matthew ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-d

Re: [sword-devel] ESV clucene search oddities (was: SWORD 1.6.1)

On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 3:44 AM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote: > Thanks for testing, Matthew. I'll hammer more on this tomorrow starting with > a fresh setup. > > Anyone else have any ideas here? Does clucene have any limits we might be > hitting that anyone can think of? Troy, On linux (Ubuntu 64

Re: [sword-devel] ESV clucene search oddities (was: SWORD 1.6.1)

> Matthew, I just tried: > > examples/cmdline/search ESV crystal > (after switching search.cpp to use clucene searching) > > and joyfully the result set included Rev.22.1 > > Would you clean and rebuild the ESV index in Xiphos for me and confirm > or deny that we fixed this with our recent change?

[sword-devel] ESV clucene search oddities (was: SWORD 1.6.1)

On 12/16/2009 03:05 PM, Matthew Talbert wrote: > ESV clucene index oddities? > Still unresolved, as far as I know. Searches fail for anything in Rev 22. > > Matthew, I just tried: examples/cmdline/search ESV crystal (after switching search.cpp to use clucene searching) and joyfully the result

Re: [sword-devel] ESV linegroups not processed in osishtmlhref

Greg Hellings wrote: > What is the module creator usually trying to convey by the presence of > the lg tags? I'm guessing it's mainly poetry and is for things > like stanzas? If most module creators are reading and following http://crosswire.org/wiki/OSIS_Bibles#Marking_poetic_material , then t

Re: [sword-devel] ESV linegroups not processed in osishtmlhref

On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 1:35 AM, Ben Morgan wrote: > The ESV has linegroups of the style and , but > these aren't picked up by osishtmlhref. > It has a rule to change and into , but none for lg's with > attributes. When you say "with attributes" are you referring specifically to the s/eID attr

[sword-devel] ESV linegroups not processed in osishtmlhref

The ESV has linegroups of the style and , but these aren't picked up by osishtmlhref. It has a rule to change and into , but none for lg's with attributes. This would be reasonably simple to add - just another case in the token handling (rather than relying on token substitution). A while ago,

Re: [sword-devel] ESV Study Bible

t;Greg Hellings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum" Sent: 11/14/08 6:00 AM Subject: Re: [sword-devel] ESV Study Bible On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 4:45 PM, Troy A. Griffitts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear all, > > My initial comment

Re: [sword-devel] ESV Study Bible

On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 4:45 PM, Troy A. Griffitts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear all, > > My initial comments on this. > > I'm not so sure the programming interface would be much different than > accessing the parts of the study Bible as 5 different modules. Our > installers already allow data

Re: [sword-devel] ESV Study Bible

But then you would need 5 commentary windows open. I don't want the user to be able to see five or six modules for a single logical module - that would be up to the frontend, though, I suppose. Perhaps instead of just using Companion, we need a config option to specify logical grouping of modules

Re: [sword-devel] ESV Study Bible

Curious... how do you count up a need for 5? Granted, I've not seen an ESV study Bible, but I don't know any study Bible that would require more than, maybe, 2. --Greg On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 4:25 PM, Ben Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Even if we got permission (which would be great), there

Re: [sword-devel] ESV Study Bible

Dear all, My initial comments on this. I'm not so sure the programming interface would be much different than accessing the parts of the study Bible as 5 different modules. Our installers already allow datapaths to be grouped however we want; we just use a standard directory path like: modul

Re: [sword-devel] ESV Study Bible

Even if we got permission (which would be great), there is still the question of how to encode it. As I noted in a previous email (on companion modules), we would currently need at least 5 modules if we weren't duplicating data throughout. And that wouldn't be nice for the user. It would be nice t

[sword-devel] ESV Study Bible

Seen in bsreview.org: | The electronic edition of the English Standard Version Study Bible | will soon become available for a number of Bible software | applications. To that effect, || Crossway has partnered with the leading digital software providers, || including Accordance, Biblesoft, Laridi

Re: [sword-devel] ESV module tidying

"'Mash" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I am using the Debian package > diatheke 1.5.9-8.1 CGI script for making bible website That's where the difference lies. The 1.5.9 you have installed is not up to date; 1.5.11 is the current release. Apparently, 1.5.9 is simply eliminating line breaks, an

Re: [sword-devel] ESV module tidying

On 2008-10-30 12:30-0400, Karl Kleinpaste wrote: > "'Mash" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I have been using the ESV module for some time now, mainly though > > "diatheke" on the CLI and was wondering if it is possible to help with > > the correcting of typographical errors and general tidying. By

Re: [sword-devel] ESV module tidying

"'Mash" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I have been using the ESV module for some time now, mainly though > "diatheke" on the CLI and was wondering if it is possible to help with > the correcting of typographical errors and general tidying. By this I > mean the spacing of words, punctuation spaces an

[sword-devel] ESV module tidying

Afternoon, I have been using the ESV module for some time now, mainly though "diatheke" on the CLI and was wondering if it is possible to help with the correcting of typographical errors and general tidying. By this I mean the spacing of words, punctuation spaces and misplaced line breaks. Fo

Re: [sword-devel] ESV Markup Challenge

Just a ping to see if anyone has taken up the challenge to guess at ESV <-> KJV word association. Anyone? Troy A. Griffitts wrote: > OK, here is the latest revision of the esvtag package. It has my silly > sequential letter score compare routine, and also Greg's similarity.py > routine. I'v

Re: [sword-devel] ESV Markup Challenge

OK, here is the latest revision of the esvtag package. It has my silly sequential letter score compare routine, and also Greg's similarity.py routine. I've included the new functionality to combine consecutive equal word tags, and also fixed the infinite loop bug. The code is more cleaned up

Re: [sword-devel] ESV Markup Challenge

Quoting "Troy A. Griffitts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > locks up! I'll try to have a look, if no one gets to it before me. The > Interlinear NT you point out has an interesting story. Apparently > Crossway paid the Logos guys to mark up their NT for them and have > license the data back from Logos.

Re: [sword-devel] ESV Markup Challenge

Hey Ben and Greg, Thanks for your input. I might have time to look into Greg's recommendation. Now that really sounds like an impressive way to choose similar terms. And thanks for completing the insertWordTags to put consecutive words together! Ben, thanks for finding where the program lo

Re: [sword-devel] ESV Markup Challenge

The reason it doesn't work on Genesis 1:2 is because it doesn't find a word with enough similarity, so it ends up in an infinite loop within a TODO block :) Also, there is the ESV English-Greek Reverse Interlinear New Testament ( http://www.crossway.org/product/158134628X) already, which is the sa

Re: [sword-devel] ESV Markup Challenge

Sorry, I attached a version of the tarball that had the executable in it and the list moderation caught it. Here's the cleaned version. See the detailed summary below. --Greg On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 7:52 PM, Greg Hellings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Troy, > > The task that I'm currently working

[sword-devel] ESV Markup Challenge

Hey guys. I have a fun and useful challenge for anyone wishing to show off their prowess at problem solving and basic world domination. We have morphological data for the KJV. Lots of work by many people went into this data, to markup each English word in the Bible text to the corresponding

[sword-devel] ESV reverse interlinear, How can I dl it? Re: This might be useful to some

I clicked 10 times. All I got was 10 announcements of a reverse interlinear and a pitch to sell it on hard bound with Strong's on pdf. I do not want and do not like pdf files and do not want to buy hard bound. I even registered but never could find a link to actually download the reverse interli

Re: [sword-devel] ESV: Preverse headings

It may be BibleTime's fault, as well. I'd just ignore that for now. Joachim > On Aug 20, 2006, at 12:39 PM, Joachim Ansorg wrote: > > It looks better with 1.5.9, but the rendering takes a looong time. > > Any idea where the bottleneck is? I've tested BibleCS, GnomeSword and > MacSword and have no

Re: [sword-devel] ESV: Preverse headings

On Aug 20, 2006, at 12:39 PM, Joachim Ansorg wrote: > It looks better with 1.5.9, but the rendering takes a looong time. Any idea where the bottleneck is? I've tested BibleCS, GnomeSword and MacSword and have not seen a significant slowdown. That might be my lack of experience with them. >

Re: [sword-devel] ESV: Preverse headings

On Aug 20, 2006, at 11:44 AM, Joachim Ansorg wrote: > Hi, > the current ESV beta module contains XML like this: > > The Beginning of > Creation > > I remember that the modules I did had the attribute subType in > lowercase > letters. BibleTime just looks for the lower case name at the > mom

Re: [sword-devel] ESV: Preverse headings

It looks better with 1.5.9, but the rendering takes a looong time. Joachim > Hi, > the current ESV beta module contains XML like this: > > The Beginning of > Creation > > I remember that the modules I did had the attribute subType in lowercase > letters. BibleTime just looks for the lower case na

[sword-devel] ESV: Preverse headings

Hi, the current ESV beta module contains XML like this: The Beginning of Creation I remember that the modules I did had the attribute subType in lowercase letters. BibleTime just looks for the lower case name at the moment, so the title in the ESV are inlined. I think the sword filters add the

Re: [sword-devel] ESV update on Aug 11. Is this 3rd beta?

Rebuilt with the latest osis2mod and conf gives a minimum sword version of 1.5.9. On Aug 18, 2006, at 6:28 AM, L.Allan-pbio wrote: > DM, > > I noticed your webpage has a revised version of the ESV with files > dated Aug 11, 2006. > http://crosswire.org/~dmsmith/esv/ > > Is this a 3rd beta? The

[sword-devel] ESV update on Aug 11. Is this 3rd beta?

DM, I noticed your webpage has a revised version of the ESV with files dated Aug 11, 2006. http://crosswire.org/~dmsmith/esv/ Is this a 3rd beta? The "summary page" indicates it is the 2nd beta, but is this one different from the one with files dated July 24? http://crosswire.org/~dmsmith/ Can

[sword-devel] ESV: Is handling of poetic line breaks and paragraph tags appropriate?

Note: This only applies to sword.exe and not to "The Bible Tool" because "The Bible Tool" doesn't seem to have an option to group verses into paragraphs. Unless I missed something in preferences, swordweb doesn't have the equivalent of unchecking the option of BibleCS's Preferences + Display +

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