Re: [sword-devel] Doctrinal Statement

2002-10-26 Thread David's Mailing List and Spam Reciever
On Tuesday 03 September 2002 03:39 am, Christian Renz wrote: > Reminder to self: Must spend more time praying and less time talking. Mind if I steal this for an email tagline? -- --David's Mailing List and Spam Receiver Keeping me (relatively) spam free since 2002

Re: [sword-devel] Doctrinal Statement

2002-09-03 Thread David's Mailing List and Spam Reciever
On Tuesday 03 September 2002 05:27 am, Don A. Elbourne Jr. wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "David's Mailing List and Spam Reciever" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Anyone looking for that "elsewhere" might want to check out the holy > > flame > > > > wars at http://fundamentalistforums.c

Re: [sword-devel] Doctrinal Statement

2002-09-03 Thread Todd Pedlar
At 03:39 AM 9/3/2002, Christian Renz wrote: Okay, this is enough. Discussing borderline off-topic doctrinal issues is one thing, but personal attacks do not belong on this list. Indeed, not even in our communication repertoire as christians, be it o(ff|n)li(st|ne). Period. I have two suggestions:

Re: [sword-devel] Doctrinal Statement

2002-09-03 Thread Leon Brooks
On Tue, 3 Sep 2002 14:17, Danny Freedman wrote: > the Sword Project is the only one of its > kind anywhere in the world, even leading software > bible programs do not have the diversity in Sword... > Don't spoil it with limitations based on doctrine...we > have enough limitations as a result of co

Re: [sword-devel] Doctrinal Statement

2002-09-03 Thread Don A. Elbourne Jr.
- Original Message - From: "David's Mailing List and Spam Reciever" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Anyone looking for that "elsewhere" might want to check out the holy flame > > wars at http://fundamentalistforums.com Its a fun place. :) > > Is that the fighting fundamentalist forum? Yes. You k

Re: [sword-devel] Doctrinal Statement

2002-09-03 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
Thank you for your concern about doctrinal purity. Doctrinal purity is of highest importance to Christians and to me personally. The SWORD Project has a purpose statement. I feel this is as much a *software project* needs. Though I've enjoyed reading your views and enjoying your zeal, please

Re: [sword-devel] Doctrinal Statement

2002-09-03 Thread Christian Renz
Okay, this is enough. Discussing borderline off-topic doctrinal issues is one thing, but personal attacks do not belong on this list. Indeed, not even in our communication repertoire as christians, be it o(ff|n)li(st|ne). Period. I have two suggestions: 1. We let this thread die a very sudden an

Re: [sword-devel] Doctrinal Statement

2002-09-02 Thread Ed Sylvis
Well said, well spoken! -Ed On Monday 02 September 2002 11:17 pm, Danny Freedman wrote: > Actually, if the Sword Project only included the NTs > without the respective OTs, I would not be offended... > > I do realise that this is a christian project, and I > realise that there are elements of d

Re: [sword-devel] Doctrinal Statement

2002-09-02 Thread Danny Freedman
Actually, if the Sword Project only included the NTs without the respective OTs, I would not be offended... I do realise that this is a christian project, and I realise that there are elements of doctrine in the NT. However, it is not the place of the Sword Project to dictate how people should u

Re: [sword-devel] Doctrinal Statement

2002-09-02 Thread Danny Freedman
My My...all those verses thank goodness for sword and that verse reference list in the Search window... BibleCS must be good for something eh? DF __ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and M

Re: [sword-devel] Doctrinal Statement

2002-09-02 Thread Leon Brooks
On Tue, 3 Sep 2002 02:04, Todd Pedlar wrote: > Christians who do not accept Christ's divinity? If Christ is > not God, then Christ cannot save. I agree, but they don't. The immediate (topical) consideration is whether we want to encourage them to use something other than the NWT or KIT for the

Re: [sword-devel] Doctrinal Statement

2002-09-02 Thread David's Mailing List and Spam Reciever
On Monday 02 September 2002 09:35 pm, Don A. Elbourne Jr. wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "Chris Little" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Persons who want to continue debating doctrinal statements or casting > > "fundamentalist Christian" flames about are invited to do so privately, > > in

Re: [sword-devel] Doctrinal Statement

2002-09-02 Thread Derek Neighbors
> Doctrinal statements serve many purposes, not the least of which is to > define the acceptable boundaries within a group. Boundaries, by nature, are > exclusivistic. Having an official doctrinal statement, no matter how broad > it might be, would imply that "this is what we believe and if you do

Re: [sword-devel] Doctrinal Statement

2002-09-02 Thread Don A. Elbourne Jr.
ot; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 3:36 PM Subject: Re: [sword-devel] Doctrinal Statement > Having doctrinal statements puts people off, I know, it would put me off > sword. The fact that I'm Jewish and benefit from sword means a

Re: [sword-devel] Doctrinal Statement

2002-09-02 Thread Don A. Elbourne Jr.
- Original Message - From: "Chris Little" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Persons who want to continue debating doctrinal statements or casting > "fundamentalist Christian" flames about are invited to do so privately, in > the newsgroups, or elsewhere. Anyone looking for that "elsewhere" might wan

RE: [sword-devel] Doctrinal Statement

2002-09-02 Thread Storm
I just wanted to throw my two cents in the hat. Is your goal to be inclusive or exclusive?  I hope that the goal is to be inclusive. Possibly a general statement about the Bible being the Creator's revelation to humankind would be sufficient. By the way, I am a Southern Baptist Pastor in Ok

Re: [sword-devel] Doctrinal Statement

2002-09-02 Thread Trevor Jenkins
On Mon, 2 Sep 2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Since the owner of this list does not wish to discuss such issues, I > will withdraw my name from the mailing list. Isn't today some kind of public holiday in the US? Perhaps he's taking a well-earned rest from working on Sw

Re: [sword-devel] Doctrinal Statement

2002-09-02 Thread PAProphet
In a message dated 9/2/2002 7:57:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: you sound as if you're using the phrase "fundamentalist Christian" in a negative sense. I used to consider myself a fundamentalist Christian because I do believe in the fundamentals of the Christian faith.  T

Re: [sword-devel] Doctrinal Statement

2002-09-02 Thread Chris Little
On Mon, 2 Sep 2002, Pastor Will wrote: > Just wanted to get some clarification on these points. So, if I'm > understanding things correctly, the Sword project is a fundamentalist > Christian project and not an ecumenical effort as I assumed from the > website statements? Is this indeed the offi

Re: [sword-devel] Doctrinal Statement

2002-09-02 Thread Ed Sylvis
On Monday 02 September 2002 03:21 pm, Pastor Will wrote: > Just wanted to get some clarification on these points. So, if I'm > understanding things correctly, the Sword project is a fundamentalist > Christian project and not an ecumenical effort as I assumed from the > website statements? Is thi

Re: [sword-devel] Doctrinal Statement

2002-09-02 Thread Pastor Will
opers?   The Rev. William Beckwith Evangelical Lutheran Church in America   - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 5:17 PM Subject: Re: [sword-devel] Doctrinal Statement In a message dated 9/2/2002 4:48:

Re: [sword-devel] Doctrinal Statement

2002-09-02 Thread David's Mailing List and Spam Reciever
On Monday 02 September 2002 02:04 pm, Todd Pedlar wrote: > Whoa. > > Christians who do not accept Christ's divinity? If Christ is > not God, then Christ cannot save. Those who somehow believe > Christ will save them, but believe that he was only a man are > unsaved, Fred. We can be accomodatin

Re: [sword-devel] Doctrinal Statement

2002-09-02 Thread PAProphet
In a message dated 9/2/2002 4:48:03 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Having doctrinal statements puts people off, I know, it would put me off sword. The fact that I'm Jewish and benefit from sword means a lot, and having doctrinal statements can be offensive to groups, especiall

Re: [sword-devel] Doctrinal Statement

2002-09-02 Thread Daniel Freedman
Having doctrinal statements puts people off, I know, it would put me off sword. The fact that I'm Jewish and benefit from sword means a lot, and having doctrinal statements can be offensive to groups, especially those doing research, and coming from different backgrounds... If people want to disc

Re: [sword-devel] Doctrinal Statement

2002-09-02 Thread Barry Drake
Hi there . Sorry! I seem to have started an off topic thread. Remind me NEVER to mention anything about doctrine or denominational bias (or anything other than techie stuff really). I'd love to discuss these things. BUT NOT HERE!!! God bless, Barry -- From Barry Drake (The Revd) min

Re: [sword-devel] Doctrinal Statement

2002-09-02 Thread Todd Pedlar
At 12:41 PM 9/2/2002, fred smith wrote: On Mon, Sep 02, 2002 at 10:18:55AM -0400, Dan Bertles wrote: > How about including a basic doctrinal statement in the Sword Splash screen: >  "Believing Jesus always was and is God, born of a virgin to take away the > sin of mankind through His blood." I w

Re: [sword-devel] Doctrinal Statement

2002-09-02 Thread fred smith
On Mon, Sep 02, 2002 at 10:18:55AM -0400, Dan Bertles wrote: > How about including a basic doctrinal statement in the Sword Splash screen: > "Believing Jesus always was and is God, born of a virgin to take away the > sin of mankind through His blood." I would certainly have no problem with tha

[sword-devel] Doctrinal Statement

2002-09-02 Thread Dan Bertles
How about including a basic doctrinal statement in the Sword Splash screen: "Believing Jesus always was and is God, born of a virgin to take away the sin of mankind through His blood." Anyone who can compile sword could remove the splash screen, but the average person would know the premise o