Re: [sword-devel] Dead Sea Scrolls copyright discussion

2018-09-10 Thread Tom Sullivan
Andrew: Thanks - it was the "PD" that had me puzzled. Reminds me of the story of a bureaucrat who submitted a document and found "UNO" stamped all over it at various places. He asked its meaning and was told, "Use No Abbreviations." Tom Tom Sullivan i...@beforgiven.info FAX: 815-301-2835 --

Re: [sword-devel] Dead Sea Scrolls copyright discussion

2018-09-10 Thread Andrew T.
Tom, PD is 'public domain'. Public Domain (PD) refers materials that are not or no longer protected by intellectual property laws such as copyright, trademark etc. To confuse, different jurisdictions have different criteria for materials to enter into the Public Domain. For example see the secti

Re: [sword-devel] Dead Sea Scrolls copyright discussion

2018-09-10 Thread Tom Sullivan
Peter: Thanks for your reply. Please excuse my ignorance: What is a "PD document"? Thanks. Tom Tom Sullivan i...@beforgiven.info FAX: 815-301-2835 - Great News! God created you, owns you and gave you commands to obey. You have disobeyed God - as your conscience very well

Re: [sword-devel] Dead Sea Scrolls copyright discussion

2018-09-10 Thread Andrew T.
I agree with Peter. The original work and the derivative work are separate cases. On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 10:42 AM Peter von Kaehne wrote: > On Mon, 2018-09-10 at 09:54 -0400, Tom Sullivan wrote: > > First, take Matthew Henry's or Calvin's commentaries. They are way > > out > > of copyright to

Re: [sword-devel] Dead Sea Scrolls copyright discussion

2018-09-10 Thread Andrew T.
Peter, there's agreement here. Lets not ruin it ok? On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 10:32 AM Peter von Kaehne wrote: > On Mon, 2018-09-10 at 15:35 +0200, Peter Von Kaehne wrote: > > This matter has been discussed ad nauseam on our mailing list several > > years ago. Nothing has changed since. > > Andre

Re: [sword-devel] Dead Sea Scrolls copyright discussion

2018-09-10 Thread Peter von Kaehne
On Mon, 2018-09-10 at 09:54 -0400, Tom Sullivan wrote: > First, take Matthew Henry's or Calvin's commentaries. They are way > out > of copyright to say the least. Now some publishers may add OCR text, > comments, footnotes, etc. These are copyrightable. Am I correct in > thinking that the origin

Re: [sword-devel] Dead Sea Scrolls copyright discussion

2018-09-10 Thread Peter von Kaehne
On Mon, 2018-09-10 at 15:35 +0200, Peter Von Kaehne wrote: > This matter has been discussed ad nauseam on our mailing list several > years ago. Nothing has changed since. Andrew claims he has not been afforded previous opportunity to discuss this matter. I am not sure what level of debate he nee

Re: [sword-devel] Dead Sea Scrolls copyright discussion

2018-09-10 Thread Tom Sullivan
made of their text. Until then please cease debating the matter here and please cease offering "test modules" on our list. *Gesendet:* Montag, 10. September 2018 um 14:15 Uhr *Von:* "Andrew T." *An:* "SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum" *Betreff:* Re:

Re: [sword-devel] Dead Sea Scrolls copyright discussion

2018-09-10 Thread Andrew T.
please cease debating the matter here and please > cease offering "test modules" on our list. > > > > *Gesendet:* Montag, 10. September 2018 um 14:15 Uhr > *Von:* "Andrew T." > *An:* "SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum" > *Betreff:* R

Re: [sword-devel] Dead Sea Scrolls copyright discussion

2018-09-10 Thread Peter Von Kaehne
here and please cease offering "test modules" on our list.        Gesendet: Montag, 10. September 2018 um 14:15 Uhr Von: "Andrew T." An: "SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum" Betreff: Re: [sword-devel] Dead Sea Scrolls copyright discussion  I welcome h

Re: [sword-devel] Dead Sea Scrolls copyright discussion

2018-09-10 Thread Andrew T.
I welcome honest discussion about it, I thirst for honest discussion about it, more than I thirst for censorship at least. I have looked into the copyright status of the DSS. What you say is partially correct. Each separate manuscript’s translations (as found in Discoveries in Judean Desert (DJ

[sword-devel] Dead Sea Scrolls copyright discussion

2018-09-10 Thread Andrew T.
Please, be patient and civil in this discussion, appreciating that copyright and biblical texts are both important and that controversy abounds when discussing both. Everyone's perspective is welcomed here: ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@cross

Re: [sword-devel] Dead Sea Scrolls in Cincinnati, OH

2012-11-08 Thread Andrew Thule
Oh! If you have the chance - go see them! Highly recommended! On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 1:13 PM, DM Smith wrote: > For those in the Cincinnati area, the Cincinnati Museum will have the Dead > Sea Scrolls on display starting November 15 with a premiere. > > http://www.cincymuseum.org/dead-sea-scr

[sword-devel] Dead Sea Scrolls in Cincinnati, OH

2012-11-08 Thread DM Smith
For those in the Cincinnati area, the Cincinnati Museum will have the Dead Sea Scrolls on display starting November 15 with a premiere. http://www.cincymuseum.org/dead-sea-scrolls/premiere ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http:

Re: [sword-devel] Dead Sea Scrolls module(s)

2007-05-10 Thread Chris Little
Karl Kleinpaste wrote: > [ This got a bit longer and more philosophical than it started > out to be. I hope I don't annoy folks too much with it. ] > > I wonder if the web forums should merely be shut down. They're really > of no timely benefit to anyone. Consider: On 21 April, Eeli wrote: I

Re: [sword-devel] Dead Sea Scrolls module(s)

2007-05-10 Thread Chris Little
That posting didn't request advice on getting the DSS into Sword format, it requested advice on future licensing and technical issue for texts and translations that haven't yet been produced. I checked their site a while back and there's no DSS content there, just some text about wanting to org

Re: [sword-devel] Dead Sea Scrolls module(s)

2007-05-08 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
[ This got a bit longer and more philosophical than it started out to be. I hope I don't annoy folks too much with it. ] I wonder if the web forums should merely be shut down. They're really of no timely benefit to anyone. Consider: On 21 April, Eeli wrote: | Why we don't attract developers

Re: [sword-devel] Dead Sea Scrolls module(s)

2007-05-07 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
Karl, December is sadly probably the last time I looked at the user forums. Our website specifically points publishers and other content people to email [EMAIL PROTECTED], which we all monitor daily. I would like for us all to monitor and support users on the public forums, but traffic

[sword-devel] Dead Sea Scrolls module(s)

2007-05-07 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
Since last Dec 1, there has been a posting in the Crosswire forums, Module Requests & Bug Reports, from Peter Kirby, director of the Open Scrolls Project, asking for advice on getting the DSS into Sword Project module format, both original language and translations. When I last exchanged an email

[sword-devel] Dead Sea Scrolls

2004-12-04 Thread Keith Ralston
I have been in touch with a related project, making a GPC translation of the Dead Sea Scrolls. If anyone is interested, they can contact Peter Kirby (Undergrad in History, AA Fullerton College) Web Site: http://www.peterkirby.com/ Peter Kirby [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___