Re: [sword-devel] Some questions...

2008-06-01 Thread John H.
Jecompton, be aware that Chris has some problems with insulting people on that channel, so you may want to stick to the mailing lists. > > - Is there an IRC channel or something similar so I can get to know this > > development community better? > > #sword on irc.freenode.net > > Welcome to th

Re: [sword-devel] http://karl.kleinpaste.org/sword/scripts/ do not work with arabic life application bible

2008-06-01 Thread John H.
I emailed the IBS, so we'll know soon enough. On Sun, 2008-06-01 at 09:58 -0500, John H. wrote: > It would seem that way, however, the entire thing is available for > download in PDF Format from the people that actually own the > copyright, the IBS. It's possible that biblega

Re: [sword-devel] http://karl.kleinpaste.org/sword/scripts/ do not work with arabic life application bible

2008-06-01 Thread John H.
+0100, Frank wrote: > John H. wrote: > > > http://www.biblegateway.com/versions/index.php?action=getVersionInfo&vid=28 > > > > Biblegateway does not have the copyright. IBS does. > > > > > > Read the copyright information right there: > >

Re: [sword-devel] http://karl.kleinpaste.org/sword/scripts/ do not work with arabic life application bible

2008-05-31 Thread John H.
http://www.ibs.org/bibles/arabic/index.php The entire thing online in PDF. On Sat, 2008-05-31 at 22:07 -0500, John H. wrote: > http://www.biblegateway.com/versions/index.php?action=getVersionInfo&vid=28 > > Biblegateway does not have the copyright. IBS does. > > &

Re: [sword-devel] http://karl.kleinpaste.org/sword/scripts/ do not work with arabic life application bible

2008-05-31 Thread John H.
> On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 3:16 PM, John H. wrote: > > > I wouldn't? Are you aware of some other procedure by which I might get a > > sword module other than scraping? > > a) The resource installation tool that is part of the CrossSword > Project front ends can inst

Re: [sword-devel] http://karl.kleinpaste.org/sword/scripts/ do not work with arabic life application bible

2008-05-31 Thread John H.
cript page that it said not to ask about such things on the list. I do not plan to post anything about the scripts in the future. On Sun, 2008-06-01 at 01:06 +0100, Frank wrote: > John H. wrote: > > > Frank, thank you. However, the module from the original email is > > not av

Re: [sword-devel] http://karl.kleinpaste.org/sword/scripts/ do not work with arabic life application bible

2008-05-31 Thread John H.
Frank, thank you. However, the module from the original email is not available anywhere as a module, that is, the arabic life application bible. On Sun, 2008-06-01 at 00:37 +0100, Frank wrote: > John H. wrote: > > > Are you aware of some other procedure by which I might

Re: [sword-devel] http://karl.kleinpaste.org/sword/scripts/ do not work with arabic life application bible

2008-05-31 Thread John H.
wrong, as long as you can justify it with some convoluted example. On Sat, 2008-05-31 at 16:16 -0700, Chris Little wrote: > John H. wrote: > > Chris, this is interesting coming from you, the same person who referred > > to me as both "hitler" and I just found out while I wa

Re: [sword-devel] http://karl.kleinpaste.org/sword/scripts/ do not work with arabic life application bible

2008-05-31 Thread John H.
oesn't make what you did any better. It was wrong. Im honestly shocked to see such things by people who make bible software. On Sat, 2008-05-31 at 15:45 -0700, Chris Little wrote: > > John H. wrote: > > On Sat, 2008-05-31 at 15:14 -0700, Chris Little wrote: > >> >

Re: [sword-devel] http://karl.kleinpaste.org/sword/scripts/ do not work with arabic life application bible

2008-05-31 Thread John H.
On Sat, 2008-05-31 at 15:14 -0700, Chris Little wrote: > > jonathon wrote: > > On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 2:41 PM, John H. wrote: > >> You're also saying that having a legal electronic license of a translation > >> of the bible, for use in esword, otherwise, mea

Re: [sword-devel] http://karl.kleinpaste.org/sword/scripts/ do not work with arabic life application bible

2008-05-31 Thread John H.
elievers. On Sat, 2008-05-31 at 15:03 -0700, jonathon wrote: > On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 2:41 PM, John H. wrote: > > >, instead of trying to ascertain whether I had a license to the software, > > If you had a legitimate license for the text, you would not be > scraping it fr

Re: [sword-devel] http://karl.kleinpaste.org/sword/scripts/ do not work with arabic life application bible

2008-05-31 Thread John H.
Sat, 2008-05-31 at 14:35 -0700, jonathon wrote: > On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 2:29 PM, John H. wrote: > > > I would encourage you also to read the terms of use here: > > I've read them. > > I've also read the cease and desist letters they sent out, b

Re: [sword-devel] http://karl.kleinpaste.org/sword/scripts/ do not work with arabic life application bible

2008-05-31 Thread John H.
you would point me to a specific state or federal statute which says "web scraping" and proscribes it. I have the feeling you will not find anything like this. On Sat, 2008-05-31 at 14:23 -0700, jonathon wrote: > On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 2:16 PM, John H. wrote: > > > I&#x

Re: [sword-devel] http://karl.kleinpaste.org/sword/scripts/ do not work with arabic life application bible

2008-05-31 Thread John H.
xt we will be saying because I am black I am a bad person because other black people have done bad things. On Sat, 2008-05-31 at 14:13 -0700, jonathon wrote: > On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 10:25 AM, John H. wrote: > > > is breaking the law when you apparently do not even understand th

Re: [sword-devel] http://karl.kleinpaste.org/sword/scripts/ do not work with arabic life application bible

2008-05-31 Thread John H.
Right, accusing people of lying and breaking the law is nothing to apologize for. Neither is making a moral or ethical judgment without knowing what you are talking about. David, I have never told you any time, privately or otherwise, that I use any texts illegally or I do not have an electronic

Re: [sword-devel] http://karl.kleinpaste.org/sword/scripts/ do not work with arabic life application bible

2008-05-31 Thread John H.
On Sat, 2008-05-31 at 11:31 -0700, Chris Little wrote: > John H. wrote: > > Not breaking the law. As it has been made clear on this list, none of > > you guys are lawyers, and as a lawyer myself, I am not quite sure where > > the idea came from on here that if you downl

Re: [sword-devel] http://karl.kleinpaste.org/sword/scripts/ do not work with arabic life application bible

2008-05-31 Thread John H.
xts anything but illegal--this > isn't "fair use". It's copyright violation. > > If you are still intent on breaking the law, we can't stop you. But keep > this discussion OFF of sword-devel. (The page YOU CITE tells you this, too.) > > --Chris > >

Re: [sword-devel] http://karl.kleinpaste.org/sword/scripts/ do not work with arabic life application bible

2008-05-31 Thread John H.
x27;t "fair use". It's copyright violation. > > If you are still intent on breaking the law, we can't stop you. But keep > this discussion OFF of sword-devel. (The page YOU CITE tells you this, too.) > > --Chris > > John H. wrote: > > hello, > >

[sword-devel] http://karl.kleinpaste.org/sword/scripts/ do not work with arabic life application bible

2008-05-31 Thread John H.
hello, I have used these tools before for my personal use, with nasbplain, and it worked fine, however, I used them recently with arabic life application bible, and all the books of the bible have .orig dirs which have correct files, but after I run hack.bg -h, the ot and vt files are 0 k, and i l

Re: [sword-devel] vowels and arasvd

2008-05-20 Thread John H.
I was wondering if there had ever been any progress on this?:) Specifically, an arabic translation with the vowels(as esword has). On Fri, 2008-03-21 at 14:17 +, peter wrote: > Troy and Chris, > > I copy you in this exchange I have with John H regarding the Arabic > Sm

Re: [sword-devel] How to get vowels in the Arabic bible module?

2008-03-18 Thread John H.
Just wondering whatever happened with this:) On Thu, 2008-01-24 at 09:42 +, peter wrote: > Chris Little wrote: > > > > peter wrote: > >> Chris Little wrote: > >>> peter wrote: > or another point, would a export filter directly for OSIS or THML be a > possibility? > >>> No, not eve

Re: [sword-devel] bounded searches and new sword

2008-03-08 Thread John H.
-i sword if you find something other than /usr/share/sword, then that's likely your culprit.  Note that the last command will take quite a while. Brian John H. wrote: I just followed your instructions on irc and installed cvs sword then cvs gnomesword.

Re: [sword-devel] javascript chat

2008-03-07 Thread John H.
Seems like it would make more sense just to install cgiirc on the site and lock it onto the #sword room on freenode. On Fri, 2008-03-07 at 20:36 -0700, Troy A. Griffitts wrote: > Anyone want to work on a project for me? > > I'm looking for a basic javascript chat box for our community forums. >

Re: [sword-devel] bounded searches and new sword

2008-03-07 Thread John H.
I just followed your instructions on irc and installed cvs sword then cvs gnomesword. Same exact problem nothing is listed under biblical texts now On Wed, 2008-02-27 at 11:29 -0500, Karl Kleinpaste wrote: > "John H." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > It definitely in

Re: [sword-devel] bounded searches and new sword

2008-02-27 Thread John H.
everything which appears to be superfluous. John H. wrote: I did rebuild from scratch. I rebuilt gnomesword afterwards, but it still saw absolutely no bibles. On Wed, 2008-02-27 at 09:08 -0500, Karl Kleinpaste wrote: "John H." <[EMAIL PROTE

Re: [sword-devel] bounded searches and new sword

2008-02-27 Thread John H.
I did rebuild from scratch. I rebuilt gnomesword afterwards, but it still saw absolutely no bibles. On Wed, 2008-02-27 at 09:08 -0500, Karl Kleinpaste wrote: > "John H." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I know that svn supposedly fixes the bounded search bug, but I

[sword-devel] bounded searches and new sword

2008-02-26 Thread John H.
I know that svn supposedly fixes the bounded search bug, but I just upgraded to that today and it can't see any bible modules in gnomesword, so I had to go back to 1.5.10 is there any way to get bounded searches working before the next release of sword?

Re: [sword-devel] How to get vowels in the Arabic bible module?

2008-02-20 Thread John H.
Peter, Was wondering if the vowels were ever added? peter wrote: Chris Little wrote: peter wrote: Chris Little wrote: peter wrote: or another point, would a export filter directly for OSIS or THML be a possibilit

Re: [sword-devel] How to get vowels in the Arabic bible module?

2008-01-24 Thread John H.
Here's another place using the arabicbible.com's version of SVD and freely distributing it... http://www.olivetree.com/store/product.php?productid=16558 ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/swo

Re: [sword-devel] How to get vowels in the Arabic bible module?

2008-01-23 Thread John H.
thing there: Feierabend. Shutters down. If there is anyone on the list who wants to run with this info and make direct contact? Email me. John H? Troy? Otherwise I will just try and pester them. Some people get excited when they get phone calls from far away, so maybe this helps. Peter appropriate

Re: [sword-devel] How to get vowels in the Arabic bible module?

2008-01-23 Thread John H.
I don't think you are going to get a response from them through email.  I had emailed them before and never received a response, about a wholly separate matter. I think it is worth considering what Peter said about copyrights.  I would also point out that they take the liberty of sticking a lo

Re: [sword-devel] How to get vowels in the Arabic bible module?

2008-01-22 Thread John H.
Chris, great:) However, as peter said, I am not sure the people at arabicbible.com have the right to determine who can and who cannot distribute it. It's your choice to be safe, though. I know David had emailed the webmaster there about it, but I am not sure if he heard back. On Jan 22, 2008 9

Re: [sword-devel] French Darby (Public Domain?)

2008-01-22 Thread John H.
You are right that the original KJV is not in use anymore. A side note to this is the obvious effect it has on the KJV only debate, as no one really uses the KJV anymore(the true one). On Jan 22, 2008 11:51 AM, DM Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I cannot answer for the French Darby Bible tran

Re: [sword-devel] How to get vowels in the Arabic bible module?

2008-01-21 Thread John H.
f using it. I.e. a working module goes a > long way to convince people. > > Peter > > > David Trotz wrote: > > John H. wrote: > >> Peter, > >> > >> David emailed the arabicbible.com people requesting permission, but I > >> like you do not

Re: [sword-devel] How to get vowels in the Arabic bible module?

2008-01-21 Thread John H.
ced by Jesus > Christ. So, if you can prove your credentials and your aqbility (by > creating a sword module) you will in all likelihood run into open doors > when you finally get round to asking them, > > Peter > > > > > John H. wrote: > > Yeah, I know what you m

Re: [sword-devel] How to get vowels in the Arabic bible module?

2008-01-21 Thread John H.
Yeah, I know what you mean. Please let me know if you need someone to test a module with vowels:) On Jan 21, 2008 3:00 AM, peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > John H. wrote: > > Peter, > > > > All printed copies I have seen, I have noticed the vowels as well. > &g

Re: [sword-devel] How to get vowels in the Arabic bible module?

2008-01-21 Thread John H.
vocalisation present, so this is not copyrightable IMHO. > > Just because you put your mind to getting something from paper to > electrons does not create a copyright. > > Peter > > > John H. wrote: > > This goes into more depth about it... > > > >

Re: [sword-devel] How to get vowels in the Arabic bible module?

2008-01-21 Thread John H.
raise is for our Lord and redeemer Jesus Christ. Abd El-Massih, Webmaster" http://www.arabicbible.com/bible/use.htm On Jan 21, 2008 2:08 AM, Chris Little <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jan 20, 2008, at 11:09 PM, John H. wrote: > > I was wondering how to get

[sword-devel] How to get vowels in the Arabic bible module?

2008-01-20 Thread John H.
Hi friends, I was wondering how to get the vowels to display in the ASV module? You can see the vowels of the more recent Arabic bible, the Arabic life application bible, like here with Genesis 1:1 فِي الْبَدْءِ خَلَقَ اللهُ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالأَرْضَ، here it is without the vowels في الْبدء خلَ