Re: [sword-devel] KJV with strong numbers

2019-11-15 Thread Michael Johnson
On 11/15/19 6:56 AM, Michael H wrote: > > However, It's my best interpretation of the sword spec and communication on > this subject that all KJV modules which contain red letter encoding would > best be represented with the configuration OSISqToTick=false in their > respective conf files. That

Re: [sword-devel] KJV with strong numbers

2019-11-15 Thread Cyrille
My question was related to MOD-354 , MOD-356 . The second is easy to solved, if the source are accessible. Maybe it can be moved to our gitlab repo? It will be easier for the collaboration. Le 15/11/2019 à

Re: [sword-devel] KJV with strong numbers

2019-11-15 Thread Michael H
Deprecated indicates that new development won't follow this method, but current instances are maintained to provide the widest compatibility. I'm not aware this has been made obsolete, which would indicate it is no longer supported and will break the display or program. Until it is made Obsolete, I

Re: [sword-devel] KJV with strong numbers

2019-11-15 Thread Cyrille
If you want you can update your sword release with my ppa: https://launchpad.net/~lafricain79/+archive/ubuntu/lafricainenvrac Le 15/11/2019 à 11:56, Michael H a écrit : > Yes, the modules are all updated.  Bibletime is up to date, but that > means the last version provided by 18.04LTS upstream, an

Re: [sword-devel] KJV with strong numbers

2019-11-15 Thread Michael H
It's almost certainly already been addressed, but due to the software update schedule for Ubuntu won't appear in the long term support stream until April 2020. On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 10:53 AM David Haslam wrote: > IIRC, the OSISqToTick key was deprecated some years ago. > > I think the problem

Re: [sword-devel] KJV with strong numbers

2019-11-15 Thread Michael H
Yes, the modules are all updated. Bibletime is up to date, but that means the last version provided by 18.04LTS upstream, and is not current to the development stream. I mentioned the KJVA module to Cyrille to point out that there is a crosswire module which contains all of the apocryphal books,

Re: [sword-devel] KJV with strong numbers

2019-11-15 Thread David Haslam
IIRC, the OSISqToTick key was deprecated some years ago. I think the problem is that CrossWire failed to release KJVA module version 3.1 in February 2017. On my PC this was made as a module named KJVAX and was rebuilt completely from KJV & KJVDC source files. The X in the module name is simply

Re: [sword-devel] KJV with strong numbers

2019-11-15 Thread David Haslam
Michael, KJV version 2.9 and KJVA version 3.0.1 should behave the same. KJVA is now made using the osis2mod augment switch -a to add the DC books to the module first made from the KJV source XML file. Are you viewing these latest module releases? David Sent from ProtonMail Mobile On Fri, Nov

Re: [sword-devel] KJV with strong numbers

2019-11-15 Thread Michael H
correction, the version is Bibletime 2.11.1, not 2.11.3. The KJVA module conf file contains the line "OSISqToTick=false". I believe this is the cause of the missing quotations. I think Bibletime is correctly displaying the quotes in modules as defined by OSIS, where most frontends just ignore th

Re: [sword-devel] KJV with strong numbers

2019-11-15 Thread Michael H
I see them in bibletime 2.11.3 for Linux (Ubuntu 18.04LTS) built on Sword 1.7.3. This is the default edition that comes in the apps provided by the current stable Ubuntu edition. In a 3 column view with the modules listed, engKJV1769eb, KJV, and KJVA; only the KJVA displays silent transitions. O

Re: [sword-devel] KJV with strong numbers

2019-11-15 Thread David Haslam
Michael, The CrossWire KJV module should not and does not display quotation marks in either Xiphos or PocketSword & probably all SWORD based front-end apps. If you see quotation marks at Words of Jesus transitions, might this be a failure of some apps not correctly implementing the attribute ma

Re: [sword-devel] KJV with strong numbers

2019-11-15 Thread Michael H
I suspect starting from the KJVA module is the correct approach for you Cyrille. The engKJV1769eb module is present to make the text available in the other formats (web browser, epub, kindle formats.) It is not intended to be a source text. However, the conversion to all these formats reprocesses t

Re: [sword-devel] KJV with strong numbers

2019-11-15 Thread Cyrille
Le 15/11/2019 à 09:08, David Haslam a écrit : > AFAIK, The OSIS XML files that eBible.org uses for the engKJV1769eb > module are not those that either I or DM used for the CrossWire KJV & > KJVA modules. I have the feeling again that we are wasting a mad energy by the dispersion of sources and pa

Re: [sword-devel] KJV with strong numbers

2019-11-15 Thread David Haslam
You’d be well advised to ask DM Smith for how to navigate the various directories in that URL. Previous releases as well as work in progress are all in different folders. David Sent from ProtonMail Mobile On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 14:07, Peter Von Kaehne wrote: > > No. Ebible is not a good so

Re: [sword-devel] KJV with strong numbers

2019-11-15 Thread Cyrille
Le 15/11/2019 à 09:07, Peter Von Kaehne a écrit : >   >  No. Ebible is not a good source for further modules.  OK, then the .conf file give no good information about sources, maybe we need to change it. "For further modules" you speak only about KJV? Because they have a lot of usfm and osis for o

Re: [sword-devel] KJV with strong numbers

2019-11-15 Thread David Haslam
AFAIK, The OSIS XML files that eBible.org uses for the engKJV1769eb module are not those that either I or DM used for the CrossWire KJV & KJVA modules. I’ve really not looked in detail at how Michael Johnson maintains his modules with Haiola. David Sent from ProtonMail Mobile On Fri, Nov 15,

Re: [sword-devel] KJV with strong numbers

2019-11-15 Thread Peter Von Kaehne
   No. Ebible is not a good source for further modules.  They are already part of us, sort of :-)!!! We have all their modules online - just check your repo list.   Here is the source   http://www.crosswire.org/~dmsmith/kjv2011/   Gesendet: Freitag, 15. November 2019 um 13:57 Uhr Von: "Cyri

Re: [sword-devel] KJV with strong numbers

2019-11-15 Thread Cyrille
Thank you Peter, I look in the conf file: TextSource=bf.org, eBible.org... eBible.org is ok And eBible.org is working, but how to do if we want to work on it? At the same time I discover that ebible is an excellent resource that stores bibles in usfm and osis formats. David, is your file different

Re: [sword-devel] KJV with strong numbers

2019-11-15 Thread David Haslam
Strictly speaking, it’s maintained by DM Smith - though I did some significant work on the source text in 2016 in collaboration with DM. I still keep such KJV files on my PC too. The wiki includes a roadmap for further potential enhancements. David Sent from ProtonMail Mobile On Fri, Nov 15,

Re: [sword-devel] KJV with strong numbers

2019-11-15 Thread Peter Von Kaehne
Hi Cyrille,   I am not on my computer, but I think the link to the source text is both in the conf file and accessible via the WIki.   Peter   Gesendet: Freitag, 15. November 2019 um 03:26 Uhr Von: "Cyrille" An: "SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum" Betreff: [sword-devel] KJV with strong