Re: [sword-devel] Platform for the distribution of non-free Sword Modules

2019-03-13 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
To piggy-back on what Peter is saying...  from the last few emails, I am not sure everyone is on the same page... Michael Paul Johnson already converts the free DBL texts to SWORD modules automatically and makes them available for all of our software (the ebible.org remote installation source).  A

Re: [sword-devel] Platform for the distribution of non-free Sword Modules

2019-03-13 Thread ref...@gmx.net
I think it is simply inappropriate for an external organisation to.negotiate on behalf of or instead of CrossWireFurther I am really upset about the confusing of the "problem" with popular but expensive and hence unavailable texts and the other stuff in DBL. We have excellent relationships with man

Re: [sword-devel] New/modern (copyrighted) bible translations

2019-03-13 Thread Michael Johnson
On 3/12/19 8:58 PM, Tobias Klein wrote: > Regarding the "repeatable conversion process". I think a key is that this > conversion process does not have to be re-invented for each and every single > copyright holder. > If I understood the "Digital Bible Library" correctly, they do have the data >

Re: [sword-devel] Platform for the distribution of non-free Sword Modules

2019-03-13 Thread Michael H
What's your target audience geographically? Is this mostly non-English speaking concern? or is the gap of material mostly English? On a desktop (in English,) the gap that "free" can't currently fill is not Bible Text, but in 20 and 21st century scholarship about Bible issues. It is very easy to

Re: [sword-devel] PocketSword progress

2019-03-13 Thread Michael Johnson
Thank you, Manfred and Troy. :-) I'll keep these in mind as I update PocketSword. On 3/13/19 12:01 AM, Manfred Bergmann wrote: > >> Am 13.03.2019 um 09:46 schrieb Troy A. Griffitts : >> >> >> In addition, there are new Swift bindings which work against that Universal >> binary for both MacOS and

Re: [sword-devel] Platform for the distribution of non-free Sword Modules

2019-03-13 Thread Tobias Klein
On 13.03.19 13:14, Dominique Corbex wrote: In France, people use modern (non-free) translation too, but *printed* Bibles. Some people I know have installed Bible apps on their phones but are not willing to pay for a non-free version. And for good reason, popular modern translation have their ow

Re: [sword-devel] Platform for the distribution of non-free Sword Modules

2019-03-13 Thread David Haslam
The setup executables in some paid for Windows software downloads are individualised to the customer's name. EditPad Pro is one such example. I'm surprised the method isn't more widespread. David Sent from ProtonMail Mobile On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 16:03, Greg Hellings wrote: > On Wed, Mar 1

Re: [sword-devel] Platform for the distribution of non-free Sword Modules

2019-03-13 Thread Greg Hellings
On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 2:08 AM Tobias Klein wrote: > Hi Greg, > > Thanks for expressing your interest in this and sharing the vision! :) > > POC = Proof of Concept? > I'll come back to you personally. > Yes, a proof of concept implementation that allowed each user to click through to "purchase"

Re: [sword-devel] Platform for the distribution of non-free Sword Modules

2019-03-13 Thread David Haslam
Yep! And I have the feeling that were CrossWire to devote the effort to go down the route of obtaining permission for commercial modern majority language Bible versions, we’d always be playing catch-up with YouVersion as well as the publishers’ own apps. David Sent from ProtonMail Mobile On

Re: [sword-devel] Platform for the distribution of non-free Sword Modules

2019-03-13 Thread Dominique Corbex
Tobias Klein wrote: > Especially in the western world, most Christians I know use modern > (non-free) translations for their personal bible study. In France, people use modern (non-free) translation too, but *printed* Bibles. Some people I know have installed Bible apps on their phones but a

Re: [sword-devel] PocketSword progress

2019-03-13 Thread Manfred Bergmann
> Am 13.03.2019 um 09:46 schrieb Troy A. Griffitts : > > > In addition, there are new Swift bindings which work against that Universal > binary for both MacOS and iOS. They were done for the Cordova plugin, but > most of the code could be used standalone if anyone is interested in writing >

Re: [sword-devel] PocketSword progress

2019-03-13 Thread David Haslam
Hi Michael, Good to read of the technical progress. Have you visited our tracker to see what other issues need fixing. We were alerted a few months ago to Apple's current requirements for iOS app providers to have an adequate privacy policy that meets their legal standards and which (IIRC) is

Re: [sword-devel] PocketSword progress

2019-03-13 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
If anyone cares, there is now a supportes build of a Universal libsword binary in the SWORD repo that works for MacOS and iOS. It's under the objc bindings and drew heavily from the setup already in there by Manfred and others (thank you) This readme at this path in the source is a good place t

Re: [sword-devel] PocketSword progress

2019-03-13 Thread Manfred Bergmann
Hi. When Nic started developing this I had suggested to collaborate in the SWORD backend both used in MacSword/Eloquent and PocketSword. Unfortunately PocketSword then used its own baked backend with modifications to the MacSword code (at the time). I’m still thinking that there should be colla

Re: [sword-devel] Platform for the distribution of non-free Sword Modules

2019-03-13 Thread Tobias Klein
On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 5:34 PM Peter von Kaehne > wrote: I would actively oppose this proposal. Leaving aside a few popular but otherwise irrelevant texts (NIV etc) Why do you say "irrelevant", when there are regular requests from people - both like Tobais as we

Re: [sword-devel] Platform for the distribution of non-free Sword Modules

2019-03-13 Thread Tobias Klein
Hi Greg, Thanks for expressing your interest in this and sharing the vision! :) POC = Proof of Concept? I'll come back to you personally. Best regards, Tobias On 12.03.19 23:44, Greg Hellings wrote: On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 5:12 PM Tobias Klein > wrote: Hi,

Re: [sword-devel] Platform for the distribution of non-free Sword Modules

2019-03-13 Thread Tobias Klein
David, you understood me correctly. I agree with everything you said. Best regards, Tobias On 12.03.19 23:42, David Haslam wrote: Peter, If I understand Tobias aright It wouldn’t be CrossWire selling the copyright modules. A new ministry would be set up. All we’d need to do at some sta