Re: [sword-devel] New/modern (copyrighted) bible translations

2019-03-12 Thread Tobias Klein
Thanks Troy and thanks Michael for your detailed responses! I realize that the discussion as such is not new and you must have spent a lot of time already in the past on this. The point about a 3rd party selling locked sword modules with the result that support questions are getting back to th

[sword-devel] PocketSword progress

2019-03-12 Thread Michael Johnson
So far, on my copy of PocketSword I have: * Updated to the latest Sword engine. * Switched from downloading indexes to generating them. (The time consumed is not unreasonable for this, now. Apple doesn't support the old, slow hardware that made this seem necessary in the first place.) The l

Re: [sword-devel] New/modern (copyrighted) bible translations

2019-03-12 Thread Michael Johnson
For what it is worth (probably not much), I have a repeatable conversion script from Lockman markup (latest edition), and have converted the NASB 1995, the Amplified Bible, and 2 of their Spanish translations to Sword format and Browser Bible format. I threw the former away, for lack of permissi

Re: [sword-devel] New/modern (copyrighted) bible translations

2019-03-12 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
Dear Tobias, I would encourage you to choose a specific Bible you would like to see offered.  Contact the copyright holder and explain what we do, explain that we would love for them to sell their own Bible for our software, that we don't want any royalties for them to do this, and that we will do

Re: [sword-devel] New/modern (copyrighted) bible translations

2019-03-12 Thread Michael Johnson
On 3/10/19 7:56 PM, Tobias Klein wrote: > On 10.03.19 21:50, Michael Johnson wrote: >> I am well aware that this does not address the preference majority language >> speakers may have for certain modern copyrighted proprietary Bible >> translations. The best solution for access to those is to fig

Re: [sword-devel] Platform for the distribution of non-free Sword Modules

2019-03-12 Thread David Haslam
One point that Tobias may have not yet have become aware of is the existence of the STEP Bible ministry of Tyndale House, Cambridge. Some modern copyrighted Bibles are already available in SWORD format through STEP Bible. It’s just that some of these modules have only been licensed to be distri

Re: [sword-devel] Platform for the distribution of non-free Sword Modules

2019-03-12 Thread Michael H
I'm not really interested in accessing DBL content from within Sword that isn't already provided. I don't think there's a lot there beside maybe 10 English works, and a few top European language works that we don't already have access to. I AM interested in the locked databases of *Logos* and *Acc

Re: [sword-devel] Platform for the distribution of non-free Sword Modules

2019-03-12 Thread Greg Hellings
On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 5:34 PM Peter von Kaehne wrote: > I would actively oppose this proposal. > > Leaving aside a few popular but otherwise irrelevant texts (NIV etc) > Why do you say "irrelevant", when there are regular requests from people - both like Tobais as well as people more meekly as

Re: [sword-devel] Platform for the distribution of non-free Sword Modules

2019-03-12 Thread Greg Hellings
On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 5:12 PM Tobias Klein wrote: > Hi, > > I'm following up on the last thread that I started. Who would be > interested in actively supporting the following idea: > > - Develop/set up an online platform that sells non-free Bible translations > as locked Sword modules > This i

Re: [sword-devel] Platform for the distribution of non-free Sword Modules

2019-03-12 Thread David Haslam
Peter, If I understand Tobias aright It wouldn’t be CrossWire selling the copyright modules. A new ministry would be set up. All we’d need to do at some stage is to add their repository to our Master Repos List. Tobias can readily clarify if I’ve missed the main gist of his proposal. Da

Re: [sword-devel] Platform for the distribution of non-free Sword Modules

2019-03-12 Thread Peter von Kaehne
I would actively oppose this proposal. Leaving aside a few popular but otherwise irrelevant texts (NIV etc) there is nothing gained in this proposal. I do not want us to sell texts and by and large we get the texts we really want or need for free. DBL is a matter of concern - agreed. But not th

Re: [sword-devel] Platform for the distribution of non-free Sword Modules

2019-03-12 Thread David Haslam
I first had to learn what the jargon meant - which just about demonstrated that there are some aspects of this proposal for which I’m not ideally suited. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Representational_state_transfer?wprov=sfti1 David Sent from ProtonMail Mobile On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 22:11, T

[sword-devel] Platform for the distribution of non-free Sword Modules

2019-03-12 Thread Tobias Klein
Hi, I'm following up on the last thread that I started. Who would be interested in actively supporting the following idea: - Develop/set up an online platform that sells non-free Bible translations as locked Sword modules - Establish a non-profit that becomes a Library Card Holder @ The Digital

Re: [sword-devel] Please pass the PocketSword pumpkin.

2019-03-12 Thread ref...@gmx.net
Anyone can take the code and run with it, including rebranding it. That is one of the points of GPL. But surely the best is to do exactly as Nic suggested, get a CrossWire corporate Apple ID, transfer ownership of the project and upgrade from there. That would mean a seamless update path for usersS

Re: [sword-devel] Please pass the PocketSword pumpkin.

2019-03-12 Thread Manfred Bergmann
Hi. I think, if you plan on putting this to the Apple Store, then you either need a new ‚bundle Id‘ which you have control over, or have Nic push it to the store under the current ‚bundle Id‘. Manfred > Am 12.03.2019 um 08:37 schrieb David Haslam : > > Thanks Michael, > > Surely there’s no

Re: [sword-devel] Please pass the PocketSword pumpkin.

2019-03-12 Thread David Haslam
Thanks Michael, Surely there’s no need to “rebrand it”? What prompted this mention? What did you actually mean by ‘rebrand’? Was the trial compile done with the latest release of the SWORD API source code? cf. PS 1.4.8 did not support SWORD 1.8 so modules using one of the 3 new v11ns for French