Re: [sword-devel] OSIS Variants

2013-02-08 Thread Chris Burrell
I'm not sure this is an issue with the ThML converter. From using mod2imp, we have Mat 1.9: $$$Matthew 1:9 οζιας δε εγεννησεν τον ιωαθαμ ιωαθαμ δε εγεννησεν τον * αχας | αχαζ | 881 {N-PRI} | αχας αχαζ 881 {N-PRI}*δε εγεννησεν τον εζεκιαν Mat 9.4 outputs the seg with tags in them. Mat 1.9 outpu

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS Variants

2013-02-08 Thread DM Smith
I noticed this a few weeks ago. We should change JSword's ThML converter to output OSIS as is used in Byz and WHNU. And the xslt to handle it. When I did the original, there were not any variants in an OSIS text. In Him, DM On Feb 8, 2013, at 1:09 PM, Chris Burrell wrote: > Hi > > Is

Re: [sword-devel] Strong tagging and Septuagint

2013-02-08 Thread Chris Burrell
Hi Because I provide Interlinears, I need to be able to tell the user that for the combination of LXX and KJV you are unable to see the interlinears in the OT. The reason being, KJV uses H and LXX uses G. If you're looking at several texts in interlinears, it simply looks like there is a b

Re: [sword-devel] Strong tagging and Septuagint

2013-02-08 Thread DM Smith
For OSIS, the only values to indicate Strong's Numbers are: GlobalOptionFilter=OSISStrongs and Feature=StrongsNumbers There is nothing defined to further distinguish. BTW, what is extended Greek? Are you referring to the TVM codes that look like Strong's Number with a G prefix? I guess what we

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS Variants

2013-02-08 Thread DM Smith
The form in Byz and WHNU are what we've settled on for OSIS. If we find something else in an OSIS module, then we probably should log it in Jira. In Him, DM On Feb 8, 2013, at 1:09 PM, Chris Burrell wrote: > Hi > > Is there are standard subType pattern that modules are supposed to fo

Re: [sword-devel] Strong tagging and Septuagint

2013-02-08 Thread Chris Burrell
Thanks, that does clarify. Still the problem remains in that we want to be able to distinguish between different types of tagging (greek, hebrew, extended greek) by questioning the module. Does the conf file not also define supported features? Can we not make it so? Or have a flag in there to indic

Re: [sword-devel] Strong tagging and Septuagint

2013-02-08 Thread DM Smith
In SWORD the various GlobalOptionFilter values indicate to the SWORD engine which pieces of code (filters) to enable. Same with some other entries in the conf. In JSword, we don't have a filter architecture. We convert everything from the source type (ThML, Plaintext, GBF, ...) to OSIS. Then we

[sword-devel] 2nd question on displaying variants

2013-02-08 Thread Chris Burrell
Hi I have a second question, slightly unrelated hence the separate thread, on the contents of the variants. In some instances two variants show an "either/or" (e.g. Mat 9.4 WHNU/Byz). That is, by not displaying either of the variants we effectively end up missing a word in the text. Unfortunately

[sword-devel] OSIS Variants

2013-02-08 Thread Chris Burrell
Hi Is there are standard subType pattern that modules are supposed to follow? It seems Byz and WHNU are using x- where n is the variant number. αχας | αχαζ | 881 {N-PRI} | αχας αχαζ I'm seeing some code taken originally from BibleDesktop which suggests subType can be x-class-1 ? A pos

Re: [sword-devel] Strong tagging and Septuagint

2013-02-08 Thread Chris Burrell
Perhaps in Sword-terms a property isn't a statement of what's there, however JSword does seem to read it and give the front-end information about whether an option is available in the module or not... Maybe I misunderstand something? Chris On 8 February 2013 15:12, David Haslam wrote: > Our

Re: [sword-devel] Strong tagging and Septuagint

2013-02-08 Thread David Haslam
Our three Finnish modules do not have Strong's numbers. The conf files do not include GlobalOptionFilter=OSISStrongs, yet the pseudo-markup in the source text files (from an /ad hoc/ workaround to provide the original verse references from an Av11n translation) get interpreted as if they were Stro

Re: [sword-devel] Strong tagging and Septuagint

2013-02-08 Thread Chris Burrell
Indeed, although looking at the MOD-230, this would only help fix your issue if the Finish module doesn't also contain strong numbers! Chris On 8 February 2013 13:13, David Haslam wrote: > Chris makes an important point. > > A few weeks ago, it was discovered that our Finnish modules contain

Re: [sword-devel] Strong tagging and Septuagint

2013-02-08 Thread David Haslam
Chris makes an important point. A few weeks ago, it was discovered that our Finnish modules contain tags that our software interpreted as linguistic markup, but that were an artifact from something else. See http://www.crosswire.org/tracker/browse/MOD-230 David -- View this message in context

Re: [sword-devel] Strong tagging and Septuagint

2013-02-08 Thread Chris Burrell
Indeed we do, but that implies one has to read the module content to work out which set of Strongs is used. Ideally you should be able to tell without consulting the book contents. For example, I display which features are available to the user while they pick the version from a dropdown. Chris

Re: [sword-devel] Strong tagging and Septuagint

2013-02-08 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
I believe we preface strongs numbers with G or H to differentiate. Chris Burrell wrote: >Hi > >I haven't had any responses to this. I'm considering hard-coding the >values >in STEP to ensure I'm not trying to match tagging across versions that >have >a different type of mark-up. > >Let me know

Re: [sword-devel] Strong tagging and Septuagint

2013-02-08 Thread Chris Burrell
Hi I haven't had any responses to this. I'm considering hard-coding the values in STEP to ensure I'm not trying to match tagging across versions that have a different type of mark-up. Let me know if there is appetite for doing this in a slightly more formal way? i.e. the Sword conf files should