Re: [sword-devel] Config file for thml module

2010-11-29 Thread Chris Little
On 11/29/2010 7:19 PM, Greg Hellings wrote: It must be working, because of the two main formats that are available (semantic OSIS and presentational ThML) I'd venture to guess that ThML is the more common in SWORD modules. I'm open to being wrong, but I would guess that I'm not. This isn't p

Re: [sword-devel] Config file for thml module

2010-11-29 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
Chris Little writes: > ThML's fading value in other genre notwithstanding, it has almost > always been useless for Bibles. I have generated 44 ThML Bible modules. They look quite good. My spin of NET/NETnote is a heckuva lot better than bible.org's own -- far more featureful, and more true to e

Re: [sword-devel] Config file for thml module

2010-11-29 Thread Greg Hellings
On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 9:30 PM, DM Smith wrote: > ROFL is semantic markup. It is a level 1 heading. Given that this is > one of HTML's title markup, one probably can deduce that it is a title. Note > that IE, FireFox, Opera, Safari are not consistent in how they render . > Ah, but it wasn't my

Re: [sword-devel] Config file for thml module

2010-11-29 Thread DM Smith
ROFL is semantic markup. It is a level 1 heading. Given that this is one of HTML's title markup, one probably can deduce that it is a title. Note that IE, FireFox, Opera, Safari are not consistent in how they render . If you had used the tag then it would have been presentational. ;) On Nov 2

Re: [sword-devel] Config file for thml module

2010-11-29 Thread Greg Hellings
On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 12:57 PM, Trevor Jenkins wrote: > On Mon, 29 Nov 2010, Greg Hellings wrote: > >> And ThML continues to be used to create Bible modules because it is the best >> tool for module creators who care about their presentation more than some >> semantic dream world of markup. > >

Re: [sword-devel] Config file for thml module

2010-11-29 Thread Brian J. Dumont
On 11/29/2010 04:48 PM, Kahunapule Michael Johnson wrote: > On 11/29/2010 11:57 AM, Trevor Jenkins wrote: >> Um, strictly speaking a markup scheme (such as ThML) is divorced from >> presentational issues. Markup should identify document structure it >> shouldn't deal with display at all. But then h

Re: [sword-devel] Config file for thml module

2010-11-29 Thread Brian J. Dumont
On 11/29/2010 05:18 PM, David Haslam wrote: > Though this enquiry has generated a number of "asides", mmfmarin is still > awaiting help on using this. > To summarize: it seems to me, that we've presented mmfmarin with two options: 1. Make a ThML-ish IMP file. This is probably the fastest wa

[sword-devel] CMake & Install paths

2010-11-29 Thread Dmitrijs Ledkovs
= ICU = With autoconf icu / transliterations files were installed into: /usr/lib/sword/1.6.1_icu_4.2.1 With CMake they end up in: /usr/lib/1.6.1_icu_4.2.1 = locales.d, mods.d & modules = With CMake I'm missing: /etc/sword.conf /usr/share/sword/mods.d/globals.conf /usr/share/sword/locales.d/*

Re: [sword-devel] Config file for thml module

2010-11-29 Thread Chris Little
On 11/29/2010 2:25 PM, Greg Hellings wrote: xml2gbs is the wrong utility. I don't even remember if that is the proper utility for anything or if it has been superseded, but it is definitely the wrong utility for him. xml2gbs is the tool for importing valid ThML & OSIS freeform books into Gen

Re: [sword-devel] Config file for thml module

2010-11-29 Thread Chris Little
On 11/29/2010 2:18 PM, David Haslam wrote: I suspect that thml2osis.xslt is now quite old. The README says it was maintained by Luke Plant. Last time we heard from him (on any topic) in this mailing list was May 14, 2009. Indeed, that isn't the converter that CCEL used. Now that I think abo

Re: [sword-devel] Config file for thml module

2010-11-29 Thread Greg Hellings
OP's question has been answered at least twice in this thread. xml2gbs is the wrong utility. I don't even remember if that is the proper utility for anything or if it has been superseded, but it is definitely the wrong utility for him. I gave more extensive directions on using ThML in my earlier e

Re: [sword-devel] Config file for thml module

2010-11-29 Thread David Haslam
I suspect that thml2osis.xslt is now quite old. The README says it was maintained by Luke Plant. Last time we heard from him (on any topic) in this mailing list was May 14, 2009. Though this enquiry has generated a number of "asides", mmfmarin is still awaiting help on using this. David -- Vie

Re: [sword-devel] Config file for thml module

2010-11-29 Thread Kahunapule Michael Johnson
Title: signature On 11/29/2010 11:57 AM, Trevor Jenkins wrote: Um, strictly speaking a markup scheme (such as ThML) is divorced from presentational issues. Markup should identify document structure it shouldn't deal with display at all. But then having been a member of IEC/ISO TC1/SC18/WG8 a

[sword-devel] Module Markup was Re: Config file for thml module

2010-11-29 Thread Greg Hellings
On Monday, November 29, 2010, DM Smith wrote: > On 11/29/2010 12:30 PM, Greg Hellings wrote: > > > And ThML continues to be used to create Bible modules because it is the best > tool for module creators who care about their presentation > > > > The problem I have with that part of the statement i

Re: [sword-devel] Config file for thml module

2010-11-29 Thread Trevor Jenkins
On Mon, 29 Nov 2010, Greg Hellings wrote: > And ThML continues to be used to create Bible modules because it is the best > tool for module creators who care about their presentation more than some > semantic dream world of markup. Um, strictly speaking a markup scheme (such as ThML) is divorced

Re: [sword-devel] Config file for thml module

2010-11-29 Thread DM Smith
On 11/29/2010 12:30 PM, Greg Hellings wrote: And ThML continues to be used to create Bible modules because it is the best tool for module creators who care about their presentation The problem I have with that part of the statement is that often presentation is presumed to be rather singul

Re: [sword-devel] Config file for thml module

2010-11-29 Thread Greg Hellings
And ThML continues to be used to create Bible modules because it is the best tool for module creators who care about their presentation more than some semantic dream world of markup. To create a ThML Bible or commentary you will need to use the imp format and then just markup within the verses wit

Re: [sword-devel] Config file for thml module

2010-11-29 Thread Brian J. Dumont
On 11/29/2010 11:17 AM, Mario Marín wrote: > >> If I understand correctly from the fact that you're using xml2gbs, >> you're working on a ThML Genbook, right? (As opposed to a Bible, >> Commentary, or Dictionary) >> > No, it's a bible. > Aha! That's why. For starters, you should ignore a

Re: [sword-devel] Config file for thml module

2010-11-29 Thread Mario Marín
On Fri, 2010-11-26 at 19:07 -0800, Chris Little wrote: > > On 11/26/2010 1:24 PM, mmfma...@gmail.com wrote: > > ModDrv? > > ModDrv=RawGenBook > > > CompressType? > > > > BlockType? > > Omit both of these. I tried that but the module is not showing its text yet. > > The module I created is rec

Re: [sword-devel] Config file for thml module

2010-11-29 Thread Mario Marín
On Fri, 2010-11-26 at 18:51 -0500, Brian J. Dumont wrote: > Hi mmfmarin, Hi Brian, thanks for your reply. > If I understand correctly from the fact that you're using xml2gbs, > you're working on a ThML Genbook, right? (As opposed to a Bible, > Commentary, or Dictionary) No, it's a bible. > I'd