Mark Trompell wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 7:03 PM, Chris Little wrote:
>
>> I have no opinion on where to host it. I'm sure Troy would be fine with
>> putting it in sword-tools/modules, which is where we've done this
>> historically. A greater issue might be having to dole out tons of SVN
>
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 1:39 AM, Tonny Kohar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Peter,
>
> On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 4:42 PM, Peter von Kaehne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Never used the windows version, but my Linux version states the
>> following (see below) when run without argument
>>
>
> Where I c
Hi Peter,
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 4:42 PM, Peter von Kaehne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Never used the windows version, but my Linux version states the
> following (see below) when run without argument
>
Where I could download the linux version (because I develop daily in linux) ?
I could not f
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 7:03 PM, Chris Little wrote:
> I have no opinion on where to host it. I'm sure Troy would be fine with
> putting it in sword-tools/modules, which is where we've done this
> historically. A greater issue might be having to dole out tons of SVN
> accounts.
You probably don't
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 4:17 PM, Greg Hellings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have been thumbing through Calvin's Institutes and have noticed the
> following things...
>
> In www.crosswire.org/study, when viewing Institutes, the navigation
> keys on the left are totally messed up.
>
> I tried viewi
Hello ,
OSIS Module Validator
This Windows tool can check whether an OSIS document is valid against
the OSIS schema. It will identify errors and their positions in the
case of non-valid documents..
http://downloads.sourceforge.net/bibleworkplace/OSISModulValidator_v2.zip
grettings
wolfgang
ht
I have been thumbing through Calvin's Institutes and have noticed the
following things...
In www.crosswire.org/study, when viewing Institutes, the navigation
keys on the left are totally messed up.
I tried viewing in SVN versions of BibleTime and the keys look
correct, but going to the Prefaces s
Validator:
http://www.validome.org/xml/
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 1:15 PM, DM Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On the current events wiki page there is a task for an OSIS upload
> facility for UBS texts. Not sure where it is going, but I'd like to
> suggest the an opportunity for someone:
>
> Crea
Daniel Owens wrote:
> Could someone who has the permissions create a wii page for OSIS
> genbooks? I will fill it out, but I can't create the page and links. If
> you'd rather not put a link to it until it's got content, that's fine,
> just send me the url.
what do you mean you have no rights t
Thanks Ben.
Daniel
Ben Morgan wrote:
> It's up at http://crosswire.org/wiki/index.php/OSIS_Genbooks
> I haven't added links to it.
>
> God Bless,
> Ben
> ---
> Multitudes, multitudes,
>in the valley of de
It's up at http://crosswire.org/wiki/index.php/OSIS_Genbooks
I haven't added links to it.
God Bless,
Ben
---
Multitudes, multitudes,
in the valley of decision!
For the day of the LORD is near
in the valle
Could someone who has the permissions create a wii page for OSIS
genbooks? I will fill it out, but I can't create the page and links. If
you'd rather not put a link to it until it's got content, that's fine,
just send me the url.
Daniel
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On the current events wiki page there is a task for an OSIS upload
facility for UBS texts. Not sure where it is going, but I'd like to
suggest the an opportunity for someone:
Create the ability to upload an OSIS file and a conf, once uploaded,
both will be validated and converted to a module
jhphx wrote:
> Perhaps there could be a place for authors to submit modules for
> validating, or even prevalidating, before they are submit to your queue.
> It could be a place for the more neophyte to partner with more skilled
> volunteers. This of course assumes that there would be, at least a
2008/3/27 Chris Little <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I'm a horrible RSS addict myself and I got frustrated working with
> BibleCS this evening, so I wrote an RSS feed generator for our news
> page. (Now we just need some new announcements.)
>
> It's not completely validating, but it's close enough (works
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 1:03 PM, Chris Little <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Matthew Talbert wrote:
>> I have a proposal to make that could solve two issues at once. In the
>> simplest form, the proposal is to organize a group effort to convert
>> an existing public domain dictionary to tei. Spec
Matthew Talbert wrote:
> I have a proposal to make that could solve two issues at once. In the
> simplest form, the proposal is to organize a group effort to convert
> an existing public domain dictionary to tei. Specifically I would
> suggest this:
>
> 1. host the source file via svn
> 2. start
Chris Little wrote:
> I'm happy to post some examples.
>
> We have tutorials at:
> http://www.crosswire.org/wiki/index.php/OSIS_Bibles
> and
> http://www.crosswire.org/wiki/index.php/OSIS_Commentaries
>
> And some very poor documentation (my apologies) at:
> http://www.crosswire.org/wiki/index.php/
Martin Gruner wrote:
>> If you do not believe that Bibles, as well as associated content,
>> deserve the utmost care and the devotion of as much time as is necessary
>> to do right by them, then I do not believe you have any business working
>> with them, for it suggests an inadequate respect for
First of all I apologize for any rash or uneducated comments I have
made in the last few days. If I have offended anyone, please let me
know.
I have a proposal to make that could solve two issues at once. In the
simplest form, the proposal is to organize a group effort to convert
an existing publi
Daniel wrote:
> ... I'm afraid, though, that we will have to
> create this documentation ourselves. ...
I suggest that documentation be provided in three levels. Minimal,
provides the minimum needed to validate. Basic, commonly used. Full, all
of Minimal and Basic plus anything and everything n
Hi Chris,
> Your list of suggested additions to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with due
> respect, consists of persons who are technically unqualified or, because
> they do not subscribe to CrossWire policies on these matters,
> ideologically unqualified to be part of that process. I don't mean to
> insult or
Am 27.11.2008 um 17:59 schrieb DM Smith:
>
> On Nov 27, 2008, at 11:39 AM, Manfred Bergmann wrote:
>
>> Also I stumbled over the tag which osis2mod doesn't
>> process well and causes trouble (is this a problem of osis2mod or the
>> engine, or both?)
>
> I would need more clarification on what th
Chris wrote:
> ...I'm less excited about delving into a queue
> full of un-validated content.
>
> The moral being: validated content can generally move into the
> repository relatively quickly.
>
Perhaps there could be a place for authors to submit modules for
validating, or even prevalidati
DM Smith wrote:
> By the way, I don't understand how knowing OSIS is of any help to
> front-end developers? If I understand correctly, a front-end requests
> the SWORD engine to hand it HTML or RTF or the like and displays that
> as is.
Kinda. :)
BT maintains its own filters. The HTMLHREF
On Nov 27, 2008, at 11:39 AM, Manfred Bergmann wrote:
> Also I stumbled over the tag which osis2mod doesn't
> process well and causes trouble (is this a problem of osis2mod or the
> engine, or both?)
I would need more clarification on what the problem is. It seems to
work well in JSword, whic
> By the way, I don't understand how knowing OSIS is of any help to
> front-e
nd developers? If I understand correctly, a front-end requests
> the SWORD engine to hand it HTML or RTF or the like and displays that
> as is.
because we've been told repeatedly in this thread that the engine
fully supp
This and Chris' comments on the meaning of the columns should be added
to the top of the page as directions on how to use the page.
I don't have time to do it right now. Otherwise, I would.
In Him,
DM
On Nov 27, 2008, at 11:26 AM, Peter von Kaehne wrote:
> Chris Little wrote:
>> I thi
DM Smith wrote:
> I'll see what I can do to flesh out some of the TEI wiki examples. As
> this is a learning experience for me (I'm working on the NAS lexicons
> in TEI and plan to have them done by Dec 20. So I should understand
> TEI well enough to suit the task.)
>
> I'll probably be docu
Chris and I have agreed, with input from Troy, that osis2mod should
handle all valid OSIS 2.1.1 input and create a valid module that works
in all the major front-ends. Because of how various front-ends handle
verses, this may not be 100% attainable. We do this by applying
transformations to
Am 27.11.2008 um 15:59 schrieb Chris Little:
> Manfred Bergmann wrote:
>> Am 27.11.2008 um 13:57 schrieb Chris Little:
>>
>>> And I think many of the complaints from the last few days come from
>>> individuals who cannot or will not respect authority. Change to
>>> current
>>> systems and workflo
Matthew Talbert wrote:
>> The present thread was begun because Karl recommended a solution that is
>> in opposition to our fundamental move towards OSIS and TEI and that had
>> no guarantee of working outside of GnomeSword.
>
> You can't see any irony in the fact that the solution you proposed w
On Nov 27, 2008, at 8:00 AM, Matthew Talbert wrote:
> Chris,
>
> Thank you for this response. It makes me feel better about the whole
> situation. Realize that what I'm asking for is not just for me, but
> also the non-coders here who need some help. I know it's a lot to ask
> anyone, but I think
Chris Little wrote:
> I think these are Peter's descriptions. I'll try to divine their meaning
> and give something a bit more clear.
>
>> Any eternal loops or other structural problems? (What does this mean?)
>
> I don't know why this is the label. It sounds like a reference to
> problems
> The present thread was begun because Karl recommended a solution that is
> in opposition to our fundamental move towards OSIS and TEI and that had
> no guarantee of working outside of GnomeSword.
You can't see any irony in the fact that the solution you proposed was
guaranteed to not work on any
Quoting Chris Little <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> This is an open source project. Rather than simply telling me what I
> should do, people could take some initiative.
>
> --Chris
I'm sorry I made it sound like it was towards you. It was a more
general wish. I don't want to add anything unnecessary to
Eeli Kaikkonen wrote:
> Quoting Chris Little <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> It's not really a necessity that someone understand C++ well in order to
>> write a quick list of supported tags, based on the filter code. If the
>> code mentions 'lemma', presumably that indicates support for the lemma
>> attr
Eeli is right, in my opinion. I'm afraid, though, that we will have to
create this documentation ourselves. I commit to working on the wiki to
improve the documentation. Whenever I think something is not supported
well, I will try to contact the developers to inform them. Beware that I
know a l
Quoting Chris Little <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> It's not really a necessity that someone understand C++ well in order to
> write a quick list of supported tags, based on the filter code. If the
> code mentions 'lemma', presumably that indicates support for the lemma
> attribute on . If it mentions 'l
Manfred Bergmann wrote:
> Am 27.11.2008 um 13:57 schrieb Chris Little:
>
>> And I think many of the complaints from the last few days come from
>> individuals who cannot or will not respect authority. Change to
>> current
>> systems and workflows can come, but not without respect for the
>>
Peter von Kaehne wrote:
> To be more serious - putting out a non-formatted OSIS feature free VPL
> bible - as long as it is actually faithful to the text - no missing
> words/verses/chapters etc which can be reliably used with gain to
> personal study and for evangelism, is not a sign of inadequa
http://www.crosswire.org/sword/about/index.jsp
I'm all for it
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Am 27.11.2008 um 13:57 schrieb Chris Little:
> And I think many of the complaints from the last few days come from
> individuals who cannot or will not respect authority. Change to
> current
> systems and workflows can come, but not without respect for the
> existing
> policies and guiding pr
> Your list of suggested additions to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with due
> respect, consists of persons who are technically unqualified or, because
> they do not subscribe to CrossWire policies on these matters,
> ideologically unqualified to be part of that process. I don't mean to
> insult or ruffle any
Chris Little wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] is not a discussion list. It's for receipt and
> release of content, occasionally with the necessity of providing
> feedback regarding errors.
I am fully aware of this. My post was clear on that.
> I do and will continue to do my best to
> manage the inc
Daniel Owens wrote:
>
> Chris Little wrote:
>> I've posted about 10 new modules in the last couple weeks and received
>> zero feedback. I've seen no evidence of testing. Without a modicum of
>> testing, this content won't be moved to public.
>>
> Hey, c'mon. I wrote back right away about the N
Quoting Matthew Talbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> I am a programmer, but I shudder at the thought of digging through all
> of the engine code, plus various front-end code, just to determine how
> to encode a module. After this discussion, I am less convinced than
> ever that I should even attempt an
Chris,
Thank you for this response. It makes me feel better about the whole
situation. Realize that what I'm asking for is not just for me, but
also the non-coders here who need some help. I know it's a lot to ask
anyone, but I think you would get more support in general, including
from Karl, if y
LOL Peter!!!
Peter von Kaehne wrote:
> 1) [EMAIL PROTECTED] needs to be received by a much wider group. Who
> is controlling this? It should be a core group of people, all with
> rights to beta and a few more. Add Daniel Owens, Karl Kleinpaste, myself
> immediate as interested parties. Add David
Matthew Talbert wrote:
> I just asked for help in the form of a few sample entries, and you
> just turned me down. not only that but you promised to post various
> complete modules with varying degrees of conformance to whatever the
> current standards are. You have spent more time replying to th
> This is an open source project. If you have an itch, it's your own
> responsibility to scratch it. If you don't know how to do something,
> it's your own responsibility to learn how.
>
> When I started working on Sword, we didn't have any general purpose
> import tools. We didn't have documentati
Matthew Talbert wrote:
> I don't know how to say this nicely, but your reply reinforces to me
> that you don't know how to relate to people of lower technical ability
> and knowledge than yourself. It illustrates quite clearly to me why
> there is frustration with your handling of module issues. As
You probably just need the ICU DLL:
http://crosswire.org/ftpmirror/pub/sword/utils/win32/icudt40-big.zip
--Chris
Adrian Korten wrote:
> Good day,
>
> I'd like to test creating some OSIS modules for Sword in SE Asian
> languages. I downloaded the osis2mod.exe but it does not work. It runs
> ve
LOL Chris!!!
I really was not sure whether you were serious about that suggestion or
not, but I guess now you were. I will give it a go sometime.
ok 2 things.
1) [EMAIL PROTECTED] needs to be received by a much wider group. Who
is controlling this? It should be a core group of people, all with
r
Chris Little wrote:
> The OSISRuby filters are in SVN now. Please play with them (and one of
> the Japanese Bibles) if you have the ability.
there is some serious problem right now with the API vs frontends dt
partially implemented but not complete genbook bibles etc.
So GS is build against -r21
Adrian Korten wrote:
> Good day,
>
> I'd like to test creating some OSIS modules for Sword in SE Asian
> languages. I downloaded the osis2mod.exe but it does not work.
> Could someone either tell me how to use it or help with fixing the .exe?
Never used the windows version, but my Linux versio
Good day,
I'd like to test creating some OSIS modules for Sword in SE Asian
languages. I downloaded the osis2mod.exe but it does not work. It runs
very quickly and gives no feedback response whether run without
parameters or with various attempts.
I downloaded it from
http://crosswire.org/ft
I don't know how to say this nicely, but your reply reinforces to me
that you don't know how to relate to people of lower technical ability
and knowledge than yourself. It illustrates quite clearly to me why
there is frustration with your handling of module issues. As someone
who also has this trou
Chris Little wrote:
>
> Daniel Owens wrote:
>> 2. The Crosswire repo is a bottleneck. I think Chris needs help to get
>> modules through in a timely manner. More people need to be involved at that
>> step. PLEASE let's find a way to reduce the turnaround time for module
>> publishing. I'm wil
The OSISRuby filters are in SVN now. Please play with them (and one of
the Japanese Bibles) if you have the ability.
I couldn't test them because I'm on a Win32 box and BibleCS isn't
building against SVN yet.
It seemed like the filter was pretty obvious & straightforward, though,
so (fingers-c
Matthew Talbert wrote:
> I think maybe you're missing something here. We have non-programmers
> who want to create modules. You just told them to read the source code
> so they would be able to generate correct files. I can't stress this
> enough:
>
> THIS IS WHAT EVERYONE IS HAVING AN ISSUE WIT
Chris,
There are several issues I would like to comment on, and several
things I agree with you on, but it's late and I'm tired so they will
have to wait or others will I'm sure.
I think maybe you're missing something here. We have non-programmers
who want to create modules. You just told them to
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