Re: [sword-devel] OSIS:What is the future? Who is using it now?

2006-03-07 Thread Jonathon Blake
Tom wrote: >I think that is a broad "all-seeing" and "all-knowing" thing for you to say. It is broad. It also is based on my experience hunting for STEP modules. > I personally know of one retired Pastor in Texas that is still composing > modules in Texas ... and he is still offering CD's with

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS:What is the future? Who is using it now?

2006-03-07 Thread chrislit
On Wed, 8 Mar 2006, Jonathon Blake wrote: _CROSS_ might be in wider usage than OSIS. [At least, none of the commercial vendors brag about using OSIS. They do brag about using CROSS.] Um. No, commercial vendors don't brag about using CROSS, the commercial vendor that owns CROSS does. CROSS

Re: [sword-devel] KJV OT morphology

2006-03-07 Thread chrislit
They are OLB verbal morphology codes, I believe. I think the "T" stands for tense, and may be a relic of GBF encoding of this data. We should probably create a new morphology code system and convert these codes to that. But for the moment, preserve them at least. They should map into the old

Re: [sword-devel] KJV2006 progress report

2006-03-07 Thread chrislit
On Tue, 7 Mar 2006, DM Smith wrote: Here is a summary of the changes: 2) replace (not allowed under OSIS) with Not sure, but these might be paragraph milestones (similar to type="x-p"/>). They shouldn't be pagebreaks. (But maybe that was a typo and supposed to be . 3) On elements, replac

Re: [sword-devel] KJV OT encoding question

2006-03-07 Thread chrislit
On Tue, 7 Mar 2006, DM Smith wrote: At the end of many verses there is a . It only occurs in the OT and in every OT book. What is this? It's a paragraph "milestone". To correct, the marker should be converted to (Every KJV chapter begins a new chapter. So conversion should be as easy

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS:What is the future? Who is using it now?

2006-03-07 Thread chrislit
On Tue, 7 Mar 2006, Kahunapule Michael Johnson wrote: Chris Little wrote: GBF is a proprietary format and non-XML. GBF is not proprietary, at least not as I understand the word. It is non-XML. It is openly published, freely usable, and one of the first formats supported by The Sword Project. I

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS:What is the future? Who is using it now?

2006-03-07 Thread Kahunapule Michael Johnson
Jonathon Blake wrote: On 3/5/06, Kahunapule Michael Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The future is hard to predict. Currently, OSIS (or rather a subset of OSIS) is used by The Sword Project as one option for Scripture text import. There also is a utility program that

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS:What is the future? Who is using it now?

2006-03-07 Thread chrislit
Yep, is ThML (probably what was being copied for this tag). Mea culpa. --Chris On Tue, 7 Mar 2006, DM Smith wrote: The element is actual and the milestone has been there for a long time. ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org h

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS:What is the future? Who is using it now?

2006-03-07 Thread Tom Whittemore
Brother Jonathan: I think that is a broad "all-seeing" and "all-knowing" thing for you to say.  I personally know of one retired Pastor in Texas that is still composing modules in Texas ... and he is still offering CD's with STEP modules!  And I don't claim to know that there are no more out t

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS:What is the future? Who is using it now?

2006-03-07 Thread Jonathon Blake
On 3/5/06, Kahunapule Michael Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The future is hard to predict. Currently, OSIS (or rather a subset of OSIS) > is used by The Sword Project as one option for Scripture text import. There also is a utility program that converts OSIS input to e-Sword, or Pocket e-

Re: [sword-devel] KJV OT encoding question

2006-03-07 Thread DM Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > At the end of many verses there is a . It only > occurs in the OT and in every OT book. Various versions of the Hebrew Bible use the Hebrew letter "pe" to indicate a blank column in the original manuscript. This would indicate a "section break". Thanks David, I ne

[sword-devel] KJV OT morphology

2006-03-07 Thread DM Smith
In the KJV OT I find the following type of morphology. Does anyone know what this indexes into? morph="strongMorph:TH8804 ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsub

[sword-devel] Updated KJV available

2006-03-07 Thread DM Smith
I have made an alpha module for kjv2006. You can obtain it at www.crosswire.org/~dmsmith/kjv2006/kjv2006.zip This module will not overwrite your current kjv as it is called kjv2006. I have tested it in "SWORD for Windows" versions 1.5.6 and 1.5.8 and also in BibleDesktop. It does not work prope

Re: [sword-devel] KJV OT encoding question

2006-03-07 Thread DavidTroidl
> At the end of many verses there is a . It only > occurs in the OT and in every OT book.Various versions of the Hebrew Bible use the Hebrew letter "pe" to indicate a blank column in the original manuscript.  This would indicate a "section break".   Peace,David __

[sword-devel] KJV2006 progress report

2006-03-07 Thread DM Smith
I thought I'd let everyone know where the KJV2006 project stands. So far it has been a solo effort. Not that I don't want help, but that it has all been prep work so far. I have dumped the KJV2003 by books into www.crosswire.org/svn/modules/KJV/trunk/text and have created a tag for it at

[sword-devel] KJV OT encoding question

2006-03-07 Thread DM Smith
At the end of many verses there is a . It only occurs in the OT and in every OT book. What is this? I was thinking that it might be the pilcrow, ¶, that comes at the beginning of many verses, but that can't be it because it is at the end. The reason I ask is that OSIS now defines a larger se

[sword-devel] [Fwd: [sword-support] Wrong Luther-Version?]

2006-03-07 Thread DM Smith
Don't know who lurks on sword-support, but I found this to be interesting. Maybe some here can respond to Helmut? Original Message Subject:[sword-support] Wrong Luther-Version? Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 07:29:02 +0100 From: Helmut Weidner-Kim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS:What is the future? Who is using it now?

2006-03-07 Thread Kahunapule Michael Johnson
Chris Little wrote: > To make a long story short, OSIS is the best format for everything > that Sword needs to do. It encodes Bibles richly and explicitly. It > can contain every other type of book we handle (though none of these > require the same level of richness in markup). And it's open and it

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS:What is the future? Who is using it now?

2006-03-07 Thread DM Smith
L.Allan-pbio wrote: Please, any of you that have the time, read the manual and provide revisions and comments. As they are actively working on OSIS 2.5, now is a good time. Based on your reading, would the upgraded osis spec be usable to prepare a module that could be used to generate a print

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS:What is the future? Who is using it now?

2006-03-07 Thread DM Smith
The element is actual and the milestone has been there for a long time. Chris Little wrote: L.Allan-pbio wrote: Please, any of you that have the time, read the manual and provide revisions and comments. As they are actively working on OSIS 2.5, now is a good time. Based on your reading,

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS:What is the future? Who is using it now?

2006-03-07 Thread Chris Little
L.Allan-pbio wrote: Please, any of you that have the time, read the manual and provide revisions and comments. As they are actively working on OSIS 2.5, now is a good time. Based on your reading, would the upgraded osis spec be usable to prepare a module that could be used to generate a prin

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS:What is the future? Who is using it now?

2006-03-07 Thread Chris Little
To make a long story short, OSIS is the best format for everything that Sword needs to do. It encodes Bibles richly and explicitly. It can contain every other type of book we handle (though none of these require the same level of richness in markup). And it's open and it's XML. And if there are

Re: [osis-user] Re: [sword-devel] Yet another KJV markup question.

2006-03-07 Thread Chris Little
DM Smith wrote: Chris Little wrote: OSIS is already being used in CrossWire's KJV in ways other than what was intended. The lemma and morph attributes indicate the lemma and morphology of their content, but the CrossWire KJV uses them to indicate the lemma and morphology of words in a complete

Re: [osis-user] Re: [sword-devel] Another KJV markup question

2006-03-07 Thread Chris Little
DM Smith wrote: Chris Little wrote: DM Smith wrote: The following construct if fairly frequent: and took him by the throat The problem is that does not allow for . Should this be changed to subType="added">him? (This is the form that is used within study notes.) If the markup is correct,