Re: [sword-devel] New Windows SWORD GUI

2003-12-09 Thread Hastings
At 04:25 PM 12/9/2003, Hugo van der Kooij wrote: > * Does the author of some code has the right to use the same > (self-written) code in both a GPL and a commercial project? Yes and no. I suggest you dig for some answers on lists more knowledgeable on this subject as this is a rather complicated ma

Re: [sword-devel] LcdBible alpha 0.60a prototype available

2003-12-09 Thread Chris Little
Lynn, On Tue, 9 Dec 2003, Lynn Allan wrote: > With it's orientation to children/missionaries/non-techies, ... I haven't really commented on the targets of this, but I think it deserves a little outside input. You can consider what I have to say or not. It's your project, and even if you event

Re: [sword-devel] New Windows SWORD GUI

2003-12-09 Thread Chris Little
On Wed, 10 Dec 2003, Simon Lagendijk wrote: > Hi Chris, > > >The GPL doesn't cover just distribution rights, it also covers usage. > >USING Sword in an unauthorized manner, according to the license (by > >linking to it, either at compile time or run time) would violate the > >license. > > >

Re: [sword-devel] New Windows SWORD GUI

2003-12-09 Thread Ka-shu Wong
On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 12:17:34AM +0100, Simon Lagendijk wrote: > * Is it possible to release parts of the code that are independant from > GPL code, but are in a program that makes use of GPL code, under LGPL? > The reason I ask is because I want to release some parts of the bible > tool I'm w

[sword-devel] LcdBible alpha 0.60a prototype available

2003-12-09 Thread Lynn Allan
Hi Martin, Thanks for the feedback. WEB 23Joy comes to a man with the reply of his mouth. How good is a word at the right time! LcdBible actually *does* use the sword-api: an "experimental" subset of VerseKey and RawVerse to get verses. This has been discussed with Troy G.in a series of offline e

Re: [sword-devel] New Windows SWORD GUI

2003-12-09 Thread Hugo van der Kooij
On Wed, 10 Dec 2003, Simon Lagendijk wrote: > >The GPL doesn't cover just distribution rights, it also covers usage. > >USING Sword in an unauthorized manner, according to the license (by > >linking to it, either at compile time or run time) would violate the > >license. > > Some questions ab

Re: [sword-devel] New Windows SWORD GUI

2003-12-09 Thread Simon Lagendijk
Hi Chris, The GPL doesn't cover just distribution rights, it also covers usage. USING Sword in an unauthorized manner, according to the license (by linking to it, either at compile time or run time) would violate the license. Some questions about this: * Is it possible to release parts of t

[sword-devel] New Windows SWORD GUI

2003-12-09 Thread Lynn Allan
> > One of the features for our new bible software is the possibility to > execute a command from the command prompt of Linux or Windows, like for > example "Bible.exe -p Mat.1" prints Matthew 1 on the screen (just plain > text output on the screen, which can be scrolled in by piping the output Hi

Re: [sword-devel] New Windows SWORD GUI

2003-12-09 Thread Chris Little
On Tue, 9 Dec 2003, Hugo van der Kooij wrote: > On Tue, 9 Dec 2003, Chris Little wrote: > > > Also, ANY use of Sword Project code within other programs requires that > > those programs be licensed under the GPL. That includes programs that > > just interface Sword through a DLL. > > I was und

Re: [sword-devel] LcdBible alpha 0.60a prototype available

2003-12-09 Thread Hastings
At 12:32 PM 12/9/2003, Lynn Allan wrote: * I have no awareness of what is involved in applying for "front-end status" for software such as LcdBible. A front-end is a matter of function, not certification. A GUI that allows users to use The SWORD Project code to access SWORD modules would be a type

Re: [sword-devel] LcdBible alpha 0.60a prototype available

2003-12-09 Thread Chris Little
Lynn, On Tue, 9 Dec 2003, Lynn Allan wrote: > * I have no awareness of what is involved in applying for "front-end status" > for software such as LcdBible. I can imagine this would not be a trivial > decision whether it was accepted. (Rejection might well be a trivial > decision.) As Martin rel

Re: [sword-devel] New Windows SWORD GUI

2003-12-09 Thread Hugo van der Kooij
On Tue, 9 Dec 2003, Chris Little wrote: > Also, ANY use of Sword Project code within other programs requires that > those programs be licensed under the GPL. That includes programs that > just interface Sword through a DLL. I was under the impression that LGPL was design to tackle the GPL stic

Re: [sword-devel] New Windows SWORD GUI

2003-12-09 Thread Chris Little
Hi Simon, On Mon, 8 Dec 2003, Simon Lagendijk wrote: > >If you're thinking of using Sword itself (statically or dynamically > >linked) or intend to support Sword modules by re-implementing our drivers, > >using our code as a spec, (which I would strongly recommend against > >attempting), I sup

Re: [sword-devel] New Windows SWORD GUI.html

2003-12-09 Thread Chris Little
Jason or Daniel or someone else who is actually working on these should probably speak up and give an authoritative answer on teh subject, but I believe these two projects are merged (into the program Bible Study at the first URL). --Chris On Tue, 9 Dec 2003, Martin Gruner wrote: > Simon, >

Re: [sword-devel] New Windows SWORD GUI.html

2003-12-09 Thread Martin Gruner
Simon, there are at least 2 more wxwindows Sword frontend in the works: http://sourceforge.net/projects/christiangame http://spatha.sourceforge.net/product/ I wonder if people would be interested in joining forces there. Martin Am Dienstag, 9. Dezember 2003 20:42 schrieb Simon Lagendijk: > Hi L

Re: [sword-devel] LcdBible alpha 0.60a prototype available

2003-12-09 Thread Martin Gruner
Hi Lynn, I can only comment on the "frontend" issue, since I am no license expert. There is no such thing as official "frontend" status. You don't have to apply anywhere. Any program that uses the Sword programming library to access the texts provided by the Crosswire Bible Society (and/or othe

Re: [sword-devel] New Windows SWORD GUI.html

2003-12-09 Thread Simon Lagendijk
Hi Lynn Alan, and the rest of the Sword-devel list reading this, Thanks for your reply. I think you've got a really good point by making bible software that also runs on a poor mans computer... One of the features for our new bible software is the possibility to execute a command from the comma

[sword-devel] LcdBible alpha 0.60a prototype available

2003-12-09 Thread Lynn Allan
> even though your program is not a Sword-frontend (correct me if I'm wrong), > you are required to release it under the GPL since you copied source code > from Sword (e.g. rawverse.cpp) and mention crosswire as the copyright holder > of that code. Hello Martin, * I consider "LcdBible" as a "prop

Re: [sword-devel] LcdBible alpha 0.60a prototype available

2003-12-09 Thread Chris Little
Lynn, Using SourceForge also obliges you to distribute your source code (even if you remove our GPL code). You should have seen a notice about this when you signed up with them for your project. Also, as Martin mentions, by using Sword code, you must release under GPL. You are not permitted to

Re: [sword-devel] LcdBible alpha 0.60a prototype available

2003-12-09 Thread Martin Gruner
Lynn, even though your program is not a Sword-frontend (correct me if I'm wrong), you are required to release it under the GPL since you copied source code from Sword (e.g. rawverse.cpp) and mention crosswire as the copyright holder of that code. Other than that, congratulations, and I wish yo

[sword-devel] LcdBible alpha 0.60a prototype available

2003-12-09 Thread Lynn Allan
I believe that the LcdBible front-end is at 'Alpha' state. I would very much appreciate feedback (suggestions, problems, etc.) from download, installing, and testing the files referenced below. SourceForge lcdbible Project Description: "Easy to use Bible s/w for children/missionaries who have obso