7;Bryan
> Drewery'; 'src-committ...@freebsd.org'; 'svn-src-head@freebsd.org'; 'Devin
> Teske'
> Subject: RE: svn commit: r268641 - head/usr.sbin/service
>
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: owner-src-committ...@freebsd.org
Drewery;
> src-committ...@freebsd.org; svn-src-head@freebsd.org; Devin Teske
> Subject: Re: svn commit: r268641 - head/usr.sbin/service
>
>
> On 16 Jul 2014, at 14:49, Adrian Chadd wrote:
> > On 15 July 2014 22:08, Mark Linimon wrote:
> >> On Tue, Jul 1
On 16 Jul 2014, at 14:49, Adrian Chadd wrote:
> On 15 July 2014 22:08, Mark Linimon wrote:
>> On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 07:13:44PM -0700, dte...@freebsd.org wrote:
>>> destroying all vestiges of that environment purely for the sake of
>>> saying "it's clean" seems counter to the UNIX pathos.
>>
>
On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 07:48:46PM -0700, dte...@freebsd.org wrote:
> > -Original Message-
> > From: owner-src-committ...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-src-
> > committ...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Mateusz Guzik
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 12:16 PM
> >
> > Indeed, the whole point is to NO
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> Subject: Re: svn commit: r268641 - head/usr.sbin/service
>
> On 15 July 2014 22:08, Mark Linimon wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 07:13:44PM -0700, dte...@freebsd.org wrote:
> >> destroying all vestiges of that environment purely f
From: Jordan Hubbard [mailto:jordanhubb...@me.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 9:42 PM
To: dte...@freebsd.org
Cc: Benjamin Kaduk; Bryan Drewery; svn-src-head@freebsd.org;
svn-src-...@freebsd.org; src-committ...@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: svn commit: r268641 - head/usr.sbin/service
On
bject: Re: svn commit: r268641 - head/usr.sbin/service
>
> On Jul 15, 2014, at 7:13 PM, dte...@freebsd.org wrote:
>
> > I would argue that not all programs are going to like having
> > a nearly empty environment. Things like TERM and SHLVL
> > at the very least should be passed
ik
> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 12:16 PM
> >> To: Bryan Drewery
> >> Cc: Devin Teske; src-committ...@freebsd.org; svn-src-...@freebsd.org;
> svn-
> >> src-h...@freebsd.org
> >> Subject: Re: svn commit: r268641 - head/usr.sbin/service
> >>
>
On 15 July 2014 22:08, Mark Linimon wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 07:13:44PM -0700, dte...@freebsd.org wrote:
>> destroying all vestiges of that environment purely for the sake of
>> saying "it's clean" seems counter to the UNIX pathos.
>
> I think you mean "ethos" here, but frankly I like it b
On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 07:13:44PM -0700, dte...@freebsd.org wrote:
> destroying all vestiges of that environment purely for the sake of
> saying "it's clean" seems counter to the UNIX pathos.
I think you mean "ethos" here, but frankly I like it better this way.
mcl
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> Subject: Re: svn commit: r268641 - head/usr.sbin/service
>
[snip]
> Running an rc script without service(8) will give wrong behavior
> in many scripts that do not match boot-time behavior.
>
> As far as I can tell, TERM is not set on boot. So the rc script would
> a
On Jul 15, 2014, at 7:40 PM, dte...@freebsd.org wrote:
> I define non-UNIXy as chicanery that makes working in a
> POSIX environment more difficult
POSIX does not define or mandate any specific set of environment variables. OS
X is POSIX and UNIX03 compliant (and qualified to use the Unix trad
On Jul 15, 2014, at 7:13 PM, dte...@freebsd.org wrote:
> I would argue that not all programs are going to like having
> a nearly empty environment. Things like TERM and SHLVL
> at the very least should be passed (after-all, the boot process
> takes place on [a] a terminal and [b] in a shell).
Hav
-...@freebsd.org; svn-
src-h...@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: svn commit: r268641 - head/usr.sbin/service
On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 12:59:05PM -0500, Bryan Drewery wrote:
On 7/14/2014 9:18 PM, Devin Teske wrote:
Author: dteske
Date: Tue Jul 15 02:18:55 2014
New Revision: 268641
URL: http
.org; svn-
> src-h...@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: svn commit: r268641 - head/usr.sbin/service
>
> On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 12:59:05PM -0500, Bryan Drewery wrote:
> > On 7/14/2014 9:18 PM, Devin Teske wrote:
> > > Author: dteske
> > > Date: Tue Jul 15 02:18:55 2014
> >
From: Benjamin Kaduk [mailto:bjkf...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 7:24 PM
To: dte...@freebsd.org
Cc: Bryan Drewery; svn-src-head@freebsd.org; svn-src-...@freebsd.org;
src-committ...@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: svn commit: r268641 - head/usr.sbin/service
On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at
On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 10:13 PM, wrote:
>
> Blatting out the environment feels rude and non-UNIXy.
> UNIX programs can, and should expect at a minimum to
> be able to interrogate the environment they are running
> within -- destroying all vestiges of that environment purely
> for the sake of say
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> src-h...@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: svn commit: r268641 - head/usr.sbin/service
>
> On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 12:59:05PM -0500, Bryan Drewery wrote:
> > On 7/14/2014 9:18 PM, Devin Teske wrote:
> > > Author: dteske
> > > Date: Tue Jul 15 02:18:55 2014
> >
On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 12:59:05PM -0500, Bryan Drewery wrote:
> On 7/14/2014 9:18 PM, Devin Teske wrote:
> > Author: dteske
> > Date: Tue Jul 15 02:18:55 2014
> > New Revision: 268641
> > URL: http://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/268641
> >
> > Log:
> > Fix an issue with service(8) where ut
On 7/14/2014 9:18 PM, Devin Teske wrote:
> Author: dteske
> Date: Tue Jul 15 02:18:55 2014
> New Revision: 268641
> URL: http://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/268641
>
> Log:
> Fix an issue with service(8) where utilities such as screen(1) and tmux(1)
> would behave differently when utilizi
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