Re: [Sursound] Advice on new loudspeaker array... Genelec 8010 speakers?

2015-10-15 Thread Augustine Leudar
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Re: [Sursound] Advice on new loudspeaker array... Genelec 8010 speakers?

2015-10-15 Thread Sebastian Gabler
Am 15.10.2015 um 07:08 schrieb David Pickett: At 23:17 14-10-15, Augustine Leudar wrote: >Yeah actually the lsr308 and lsr305 have been getting rave reviews and cost >very little their waveguide gives wide dispersal (good off axis response) >which is probably good for spatial audio. Good off

Re: [Sursound] Advice on new loudspeaker array... Genelec 8010 speakers?

2015-10-15 Thread Dave Malham
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Re: [Sursound] Advice on new loudspeaker array... Genelec 8010 speakers?

2015-10-15 Thread Sebastian Gabler
That's specifically true for the 8010s. Their max SPL @ 1 m is app. 105 dB per pair, but the long term SPL is only 91 dB, expressly stated that it is because of the protection circuit in the manual. That being said, with 32 speakers, the SPL is 4 time higher than for 2. That's far beyond comfort

Re: [Sursound] Advice on new loudspeaker array... Genelec 8010 speakers?

2015-10-15 Thread Ilpo Martikainen
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Re: [Sursound] Advice on new loudspeaker array... Genelec 8010 speakers?

2015-10-15 Thread Steven Boardman
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Re: [Sursound] Advice on new loudspeaker array... Genelec 8010 speakers?

2015-10-15 Thread Dave Malham
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2015-10-15 Thread Dave Malham
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Re: [Sursound] Advice on new loudspeaker array... Genelec 8010 speakers?

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Re: [Sursound] Advice on new loudspeaker array... Genelec 8010 speakers?

2015-10-15 Thread Marc Lavallée
On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 07:08:29 +0200, David Pickett wrote : > At 23:17 14-10-15, Augustine Leudar wrote: > > >Yeah actually the lsr308 and lsr305 have been getting rave reviews > >and cost very little their waveguide gives wide dispersal (good off > >axis response) which is probably good for spat

Re: [Sursound] Advice on new loudspeaker array... Genelec 8010 speakers?

2015-10-15 Thread Augustine Leudar
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Re: [Sursound] Advice on new loudspeaker array... Genelec 8010 speakers?

2015-10-15 Thread David Pickett
At 14:35 15-10-15, Augustine Leudar wrote: >For creating true walk around 3d soundscapes with no sweet spot for >me a useful tool would be a driver which would be a sphere which put out >sounds in all directions (360) - because thats how sound often propogates >in real space (eg a twig cracking u

Re: [Sursound] Advice on new loudspeaker array... Genelec 8010 speakers?

2015-10-15 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
On 10/15/2015 02:35 PM, Augustine Leudar wrote: Possibly ambisonics is different - but not all multichannel audio uses ambisonics - certainly with vbap for example if your speakers are wide apart you don't want a big gap when panning between them then wider dispersal would be advantageous if th

Re: [Sursound] Advice on new loudspeaker array... Genelec 8010 speakers?

2015-10-15 Thread Augustine Leudar
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Re: [Sursound] Advice on new loudspeaker array... Genelec 8010 speakers?

2015-10-15 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
On 10/15/2015 11:31 AM, Sebastian Gabler wrote: That's specifically true for the 8010s. Their max SPL @ 1 m is app. 105 dB per pair, but the long term SPL is only 91 dB, expressly stated that it is because of the protection circuit in the manual. That being said, with 32 speakers, the SPL is 4 ti

Re: [Sursound] Advice on new loudspeaker array... Genelec 8010 speakers?

2015-10-15 Thread Augustine Leudar
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Re: [Sursound] Advice on new loudspeaker array... Genelec 8010 speakers?

2015-10-15 Thread Steven Boardman
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Re: [Sursound] Advice on new loudspeaker array... Genelec 8010 speakers?

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Re: [Sursound] Advice on new loudspeaker array... Genelec 8010 speakers?

2015-10-15 Thread Augustine Leudar
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Re: [Sursound] Advice on new loudspeaker array... Genelec 8010 speakers?

2015-10-15 Thread Pierre Alexandre Tremblay
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Re: [Sursound] Advice on new loudspeaker array... Genelec 8010 speakers?

2015-10-15 Thread Augustine Leudar
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Re: [Sursound] Advice on new loudspeaker array... Genelec 8010 speakers?

2015-10-15 Thread Augustine Leudar
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Re: [Sursound] Advice on new loudspeaker array... Genelec 8010 speakers?

2015-10-15 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
On 10/15/2015 03:30 PM, Augustine Leudar wrote: I admit there use of the word "ultrasound" is ridiculous - but they do work On 15 October 2015 at 14:27, Augustine Leudar wrote: Here you go Jorn - a speaker with a narrow dispersion pattern - (they call it parametric or sound lazer) : http://w

Re: [Sursound] Advice on new loudspeaker array... Genelec 8010 speakers?

2015-10-15 Thread Augustine Leudar
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Re: [Sursound] Advice on new loudspeaker array... Genelec 8010 speakers?

2015-10-15 Thread Augustine Leudar
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Re: [Sursound] Advice on new loudspeaker array... Genelec 8010 speakers?

2015-10-15 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
On 10/15/2015 03:41 PM, Augustine Leudar wrote: What can I say Jorn - we have some and they work - not as well as adverstised obviously but strip away the hype they have something thta mor eor less does as described - you'll have to wait a while for those measurements ;) For now, the low cutof

Re: [Sursound] Advice on new loudspeaker array... Genelec 8010 speakers?

2015-10-15 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
On 10/15/2015 03:59 PM, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote: On 10/15/2015 03:41 PM, Augustine Leudar wrote: What can I say Jorn - we have some and they work - not as well as adverstised obviously but strip away the hype they have something thta mor eor less does as described - you'll have to wait a while

Re: [Sursound] Advice on new loudspeaker array... Genelec 8010 speakers?

2015-10-15 Thread Charles Veasey
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Re: [Sursound] Advice on new loudspeaker array... Genelec 8010 speakers?

2015-10-15 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 12:14:59PM +0100, Dave Malham wrote: > Indeed, but for real-world signals bass tends (!) to be higher - at least, > if you don't want fried ears - so that's where it shows up. I can only confirm this. The last few months I've been using a room equipped with 36 small Genele

Re: [Sursound] Advice on new loudspeaker array... Genelec 8010 speakers?

2015-10-15 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 03:59:46PM +0200, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote: > We've seen all those outlandish claims of magical waveguides that > are just fractions of the wavelength in diameter and yet shape the > sound so wonderfully that a 20Hz beam will travel all the way to the > moon (using the rev

Re: [Sursound] Advice on new loudspeaker array... Genelec 8010 speakers?

2015-10-15 Thread Steven Boardman
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Re: [Sursound] Advice on new loudspeaker array... Genelec 8010 speakers?

2015-10-15 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
On 10/15/2015 10:07 PM, Steven Boardman wrote: Subs are a must. The more you have, the more even the response around the room? Yes, and the better your LF localisation. Ideally, we'd want to do a separate decode for the subs, not just simple bass management (although the latter is better than

Re: [Sursound] Advice on new loudspeaker array... Genelec 8010 speakers?

2015-10-15 Thread Dave Malham
ounded on self-delusion, nerd hubris > > and hysterically inflated market opportunities. (Cory Doctorow) > > > > ___ > > Sursound mailing list > > Sursound@music.vt.edu > > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mail