Re: [Sursound] Question about UHJ

2014-03-17 Thread Stefan Schreiber
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Re: [Sursound] Question about UHJ

2014-03-17 Thread Stefan Schreiber
Kan Kaban wrote: We´re working on documentary series based on a/b-format. This BBC thing caught our attention... the future is here?. A-format? "Progressive" stuff...Why this? ;-) Best, Stefan Schreiber ___ Sursound mailing list Surso

Re: [Sursound] Question about UHJ

2014-03-17 Thread Stefan Schreiber
Martin Leese wrote: Schumacher Marlon wrote: Hi, Thanks everybody for your well-considered comments. The reason for going for a 2-channel format is compatibility with distribution media formats (CD) - and I suppose it will mostly be listened to without a decoder. The possibility of recoveri

Re: [Sursound] Question about UHJ

2014-03-17 Thread Eero Aro
Stefan Schreiber wrote: I would call this a serious case of incompetence. In the sense that it was possible to archive 3/4 channels, also in the 80s. Strong words. I visited Nimbus in the early 90's. I must say that they used the best possible equipment that was available at the time. The peop

[Sursound] Gran Sasso IRs online

2014-03-17 Thread Richard Dobson
Dear sursounders, folks may recall the adventure last year when I was able to arrange for David Monacchi and Fons Adriaensen to record B-Format reverb responses from the Darkside 50 detector at Gran Sasso. It's taken me far too long to set up a web page for them, but at last here they are: h

Re: [Sursound] BBC Streaming trial

2014-03-17 Thread Rev Tony Newnham
after normal programmes had shut down. That was interesting. Every Blessing Tony On 16/03/2014 17:55, Augustine Leudar wrote: Good find ! Chrome isn't so bad actually -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/p

Re: [Sursound] BBC Streaming trial

2014-03-17 Thread John Leonard
I set up my system (MacPro into Metric Halo ULN-8 into BlueSky Media Desk) yesterday, using the online channel checker and after doing some very odd routing, got it all sorted. I have Chrome installed anyway, so no problems there. All I need is some firm idea of which broadcasts are actually in

Re: [Sursound] BBC Streaming trial

2014-03-17 Thread Augustine Leudar
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Re: [Sursound] BBC Radio Three Surround Streaming Trial (15. to 31. March)

2014-03-17 Thread Paul Hodges
--On 17 March 2014 00:16 + Richard Dobson wrote: > It appears to be under the "Live in Concert" title. So the 19:30 concerts from the South Bank? That makes some sense - it also means that maybe tomorrow's reopening of the restored organ may be in surround (note to self: check multi-channel

Re: [Sursound] BBC Radio Three Surround Streaming Trial (15. to 31. March)

2014-03-17 Thread Ralf R Radermacher
Am 17.03.14 16:25, schrieb Paul Hodges: (note to self: check multi-channel recording setup is OK). Speaking of which: how would one record this? I normally use Audio Hijack Pro for recording web streams but that doesn't work for signals with more than two channels. I'm on a Mac, BTW. Ralf

Re: [Sursound] BBC Streaming trial

2014-03-17 Thread John Abram
; ___ > > Sursound mailing list > > Sursound@music.vt.edu > > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound > > > > > > -- > 07580951119 > > augustine.leudar.com > -- next part ---

Re: [Sursound] BBC Radio Three Surround Streaming Trial (15. to 31. March)

2014-03-17 Thread Paul Hodges
--On 17 March 2014 15:25 + Paul Hodges wrote: > As an aside, I'm amused to see that the web page listing next week's > concert on the RFH organ (another must-hear) is headed by a picture of > the organ in the Albert Hall! Oops on my part, too - not the Albert Hall, but one I can't identify (

Re: [Sursound] BBC Radio Three Surround Streaming Trial (15. to 31. March)

2014-03-17 Thread Paul Hodges
--On 17 March 2014 16:32 +0100 Ralf R Radermacher wrote: > Speaking of which: how would one record this? I normally use Audio > Hijack Pro for recording web streams but that doesn't work for > signals with more than two channels. I'm on a Mac, BTW. I'm using a PC, so I can't comment on the Mac a

Re: [Sursound] BBC Radio Three Surround Streaming Trial (15. to 31. March)

2014-03-17 Thread Dave Malham
and may or may not be shared by the University Dave Malham Honorary Fellow, Department of Music The University of York York YO10 5DD UK 'Ambisonics - Component Imaging for Audio' -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https:/

[Sursound] Periphonic Irregular HO Ambisonics Decoder

2014-03-17 Thread /dav/random
your opinion by making a comparison with you actual decoder. Thanks! Davide Scaini Daniel Arteaga [1] https://github.com/BarcelonaMedia-Audio/idhoa -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/

Re: [Sursound] BBC Radio Three Surround Streaming Trial (15. to 31. March)

2014-03-17 Thread Pierre Alexandre Tremblay
lham > Honorary Fellow, Department of Music > The University of York > York YO10 5DD > UK > > 'Ambisonics - Component Imaging for Audio' > -- next part -- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <https://mail.music.vt.

Re: [Sursound] Question about UHJ

2014-03-17 Thread Stefan Schreiber
Eero Aro wrote: Stefan Schreiber wrote: I would call this a serious case of incompetence. In the sense that it was possible to archive 3/4 channels, also in the 80s. Strong words. I visited Nimbus in the early 90's. I must say that they used the best possible equipment that was available

Re: [Sursound] BBC Radio Three Surround Streaming Trial (15. to 31.March)

2014-03-17 Thread Richard
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Re: [Sursound] BBC Radio Three Surround Streaming Trial (15. to 31.March)

2014-03-17 Thread Aaron Heller
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Re: [Sursound] Question about UHJ

2014-03-17 Thread Eero Aro
Hi The DASH format was published by Sony and Studer in 1982: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Audio_Stationary_Head Mitsubishi had their own format. I would assume that it was possible at this time to combine several stereo tapes into some "virtual" multitrack tape I find this today as a

Re: [Sursound] Question about UHJ

2014-03-17 Thread Martin Leese
Stefan Schreiber wrote: ... > Or distribute 3-4 channel UHJ, which is the stereo-compatible form of > FOA. Of course this proposal didn't "catch" on, even if this should > work. (I see this doesn't work for a CD distribution, but this is the > only case by now. But if you chose physical distributio

Re: [Sursound] BBC Radio Three Surround Streaming Trial (15. to 31.March)

2014-03-17 Thread David Pickett
Having tried earlier to get this to work -- unsuccessfully because I was messing with the Realtek HD Audio Manager which turend out to be irrelevant -- I decided to have another go at fooled around with my PC and, as is often the case, it suddenly started doing what I wanted (perseverance is in

Re: [Sursound] BBC Radio Three Surround Streaming Trial (15. to 31.March)

2014-03-17 Thread Augustine Leudar
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Re: [Sursound] Periphonic Irregular HO Ambisonics Decoder

2014-03-17 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 06:05:11PM +0100, /dav/random wrote: > The project is called IDHOA and the code is hosted here [1] under GPL . (after automatic conversion to python3) Traceback (most recent call last): File "./main.py", line 32, in from constants import * File "/data/build/idhoa

Re: [Sursound] BBC Radio Three Surround Streaming Trial (15. to 31.March)

2014-03-17 Thread Paul Hodges
--On 17 March 2014 20:52 +0100 David Pickett wrote: > The go to http://rdmedia.bbc.co.uk/radio3/index.html and click on the > play button, and four channels of Brahms Tragic Overture appeared. Followed by John Lill playing Rach 3 at the age of 70 - Magnificent! But as for the surround, well huh

Re: [Sursound] BBC Radio Three Surround Streaming Trial (15. to 31.March)

2014-03-17 Thread David Pickett
At 21:07 17-03-14, Augustine Leudar wrote: >> >> "I installed Chrome (having previously set a System Restore Point), " >You are such a drama queen :) I'm glad you got it working though - Ill have >to try this out No. I have learned not to trust dwnloaded software, after some bad experiences!

Re: [Sursound] BBC Radio Three Surround Streaming Trial (15. to 31.March)

2014-03-17 Thread David Pickett
At 21:46 17-03-14, Paul Hodges wrote: >--On 17 March 2014 20:52 +0100 David Pickett wrote: > >> The go to http://rdmedia.bbc.co.uk/radio3/index.html and click on the >> play button, and four channels of Brahms Tragic Overture appeared. > >Followed by John Lill playing Rach 3 at the age of 70 - Ma

Re: [Sursound] BBC Radio Three Surround Streaming Trial (15. to 31.March)

2014-03-17 Thread Kees de Visser
On 17 Mar 2014, at 21:46, Paul Hodges wrote: > But as for the surround, well huh! The usual uncorrelated mish-mash in > the rear channels, signifying nothing. Turning on the rear speakers > did push the stereo image back from the front speakers just a bit. That's hardly a surprise when reading t

Re: [Sursound] BBC Radio Three Surround Streaming Trial (15. to 31.March)

2014-03-17 Thread Paul Hodges
--On 17 March 2014 22:06 +0100 David Pickett wrote: > I turned the back up 4dB. It works for the applause. 6dB seems a > bit too much to me. But how much sound do you expect to surround you > in the RFH? It may be better than it was, but it's not King's Chapel! Sure - but even with my 6dB, t

Re: [Sursound] BBC Radio Three Surround Streaming Trial (15. to 31.March)

2014-03-17 Thread Paul Hodges
--On 17 March 2014 21:19 + Paul Hodges wrote: > the audience coughing in the gaps in the > Brahms sounds from in front. Dvorak, of course - a senior moment while typing too fast. Paul -- Paul Hodges ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.

Re: [Sursound] BBC Radio Three Surround Streaming Trial (15. to 31.March)

2014-03-17 Thread Paul Hodges
--On 17 March 2014 22:06 +0100 David Pickett wrote: > it is being streamed live over the internet, and apart from a few > dropouts is actually WORKING! Furthermore, it is not TOO difficult > to make it work at home. A separate message to keep my disappointment away from this real step forward.

Re: [Sursound] Question about UHJ

2014-03-17 Thread Sampo Syreeni
On 2014-03-17, Eero Aro wrote: The DASH format was published by Sony and Studer in 1982: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Audio_Stationary_Head Weren't the first digital recorders actually adapted helical scan video ones? Because, I mean, those things are line accurate by necessity, so t

Re: [Sursound] BBC Radio Three Surround Streaming Trial (15. to 31. March)

2014-03-17 Thread Ralf R Radermacher
Am 17.03.14 18:27, schrieb Pierre Alexandre Tremblay: I use very reliably jackosx Would you have a set-up that you could share with me? I've had Jack installed for a long while, never got it to wkork, and every time I decide it might be worth another try to get it up and running ends in tear

Re: [Sursound] Question about UHJ

2014-03-17 Thread mgraves
e lusted after the PCM-F1. Michael -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20140317/84d790cb/attachment.html> ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound

Re: [Sursound] Question about UHJ

2014-03-17 Thread David Pickett
At 23:03 17-03-14, mgra...@mstvp.com wrote: > > Weren't the first digital recorders actually adapted helical scan video > ones? Because, I mean, those things are line accurate by necessity, so > that once you have them time coded, you ought to be able to get sample > accurate registration of the c

[Sursound] BBC Concert tonight

2014-03-17 Thread David Pickett
Pace Paul, by the time it got to the third movement of the Dvorak, I was quite impressed. The Festival Hall is not over-endowed with ambiance, but when I turned the back up a bit, what I heard was akin to what I often hear in a concert hall when not too close to the stage, as opposed to when I

Re: [Sursound] Question about UHJ

2014-03-17 Thread mgraves
decks. We did edit using SLO series Betamax, but it was control track editing, nothing with reference time code. It was much later before I encountered anything that could be locked to proper SMPTE time code. Michael -- next part --

Re: [Sursound] BBC Concert tonight

2014-03-17 Thread etienne deleflie
[warning: oblique arguments ensue] On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 9:16 AM, David Pickett wrote: > Pace Paul, by the time it got to the third movement of the Dvorak, I was > quite impressed. The Festival Hall is not over-endowed with ambiance, but > when I turned the back up a bit, what I heard was akin

Re: [Sursound] Question about UHJ

2014-03-17 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 04:04:43PM -0700, mgra...@mstvp.com wrote: > We did edit using SLO series Betamax, but it was control track > editing, nothing with reference time code. It was much later > before I encountered anything that could be locked to proper > SMPTE time code. I remember doing t

Re: [Sursound] Periphonic Irregular HO Ambisonics Decoder

2014-03-17 Thread Aaron Heller
k pretty good for a challenging array. Aaron (hel...@ai.sri.com) Menlo Park, CA US -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20140317/158a3137/attachment.html>

Re: [Sursound] Question about UHJ

2014-03-17 Thread Aaron Heller
Doctorow) > > ___ > Sursound mailing list > Sursound@music.vt.edu > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailm

Re: [Sursound] Periphonic Irregular HO Ambisonics Decoder

2014-03-17 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 05:06:32PM -0700, Aaron Heller wrote: > On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 1:09 PM, Fons Adriaensen wrote: > > > On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 06:05:11PM +0100, /dav/random wrote: > > > > > The project is called IDHOA and the code is hosted here [1] under GPL . > > > > (after automatic con

Re: [Sursound] BBC Streaming trial

2014-03-17 Thread Marc Lavallée
Mon, 17 Mar 2014 09:43:13 -0600, John Abram wrote : > I love this idea, and hope to tune in from Canada for some of the > broadcasts. I'm also in Canada, and I can't listen to the concerts while at work... Are the 4 channels streams available after the concert? -- Marc _

Re: [Sursound] Periphonic Irregular HO Ambisonics Decoder

2014-03-17 Thread Marc Lavallée
Fons, here's my little code review: The "bug" is harmless, because the WbinVec variable is used only if WBIN is considered True, and WBIN is actually a constant set to 0. -- Marc Le Tue, 18 Mar 2014 01:01:25 +, Fons Adriaensen a écrit : > On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 05:06:32PM -0700, Aaron He

Re: [Sursound] Question about UHJ

2014-03-17 Thread umashankar manthravadi
ve, reliable metadata would be an utopia. > > It's also a pipe-dream, founded on self-delusion, nerd hubris > > and hysterically inflated market opportunities. (Cory Doctorow) > > > > ___ > > Sursoun

Re: [Sursound] Question about UHJ

2014-03-17 Thread Stefan Schreiber
Martin Leese wrote: Stefan Schreiber wrote: ... Or distribute 3-4 channel UHJ, which is the stereo-compatible form of FOA. Of course this proposal didn't "catch" on, even if this should work. (I see this doesn't work for a CD distribution, but this is the only case by now. But if you chose p

Re: [Sursound] Periphonic Irregular HO Ambisonics Decoder

2014-03-17 Thread Aaron Heller
> 1000 > > True > > >>> A > -1000 > > True > > >>> A < 1000 > > False > > >>> A < -1000 > > False > > >>> > > > > In other words, the compare that Python 3 refuses will always > > return True in Python 2. I suspect this is a bug. > > > > Ciao, > > ___ > Sursound mailing list > Sursound@music.vt.edu > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20140317/9ab9562c/attachment.html> ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound

Re: [Sursound] BBC Streaming trial

2014-03-17 Thread David Pickett
At 02:47 18-03-14, Marc Lavallée wrote: >Are the 4 channels streams available after the concert? It seems that they are realtime only. David ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound