Re: [Sursound] Somting for the Weekend - Commerisal 3D sound

2012-10-15 Thread Robert Greene
This seems to me somewhat exaggerated(the remarks about stereo and the center image). Sure, the center phantom image generated as a sum of two identical L/R signals sounds a little different. But little is the operative word. The correction for this fairly small (Meridian used to have it up on

Re: [Sursound] Auro 3D

2012-10-15 Thread Andrew Horsburgh
Jorn is spot on with his analysis. Every live sound show I've worked (8 years+) has had all the amplifiers on maximum. Even those without DSP. You choose what you want the SPL at the desk via the master faders, and balance accordingly to that SPL. Mixing 'backwards' (Jorn's last point) is EXAC

Re: [Sursound] Auro 3D

2012-10-15 Thread John Leonard
I'm not. But also, this way of working is fine if the system is well designed. With some rental companies, this is not always the case. John On 15 Oct 2012, at 20:16, Andrew Horsburgh wrote: > If we're not talking about rock, metal, pop, electronic or dance music - then > perhaps maximum isn'

Re: [Sursound] Somting for the Weekend - Commerisal 3D sound

2012-10-15 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
On 10/14/2012 09:45 AM, Richard Lee wrote: well, depends. iirc, theile's argument is that a two-speaker phantom source should be a mess in terms of spectrum, but isn't (as two-speaker stereophony demonstrates). so for some reason, the brain is able to sort it out. more than two correlated sources

Re: [Sursound] Somting for the Weekend - Commerisal 3D sound

2012-10-15 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
On 10/12/2012 09:22 AM, Dave Malham wrote: Some other interesting statements, for instance page 7, "Thus, stationary-source elevation cannot practically be accomplished" - it's been a while since i read that paper, but isn't that sentence specifically about auro-3d? the title seems to suggest

Re: [Sursound] E's Sursound Saga, Part I--Why what I do wrong works

2012-10-15 Thread Eric Carmichel
Fs but we do also have a spherical microphone array that we build, use and sell.  Using beamforming, we have recorded environments for speaker arrays. Just a thought, Conor -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://mail.

Re: [Sursound] Somting for the Weekend - Commerisal 3D sound

2012-10-15 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 10:33:09PM +0200, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote: > regardless of whether you consider a two-source phantom spectrum > good or bad, i guess we can agree a three-source one is wy > worse? No. Why should that be ? Theile always repeats that we can handle two correlated sourc

Re: [Sursound] [ot] new and interesting words

2012-10-15 Thread Sampo Syreeni
On 2012-10-12, Peter Lennox wrote: as an aside (and without looking it up) ossuary clearly means some official receptacle for bones, I would guess? Uhhuh. It's a sort of a secondary burial site where you either dump, or sometimes also carefully place, people's bones, once they've been cleane

Re: [Sursound] [ot] new and interesting words

2012-10-15 Thread Sampo Syreeni
On 2012-10-12, Paul Hodges wrote: Melee (no accents in English) This remark surprised me, so I checked. In English foreign spelling and articulation for loans is often retained for a considerable time. That's precisely the mechanism by which it has gathered such a stupendous vocabulary and

Re: [Sursound] Auro 3D

2012-10-15 Thread Sampo Syreeni
On 2012-10-13, Dave Hunt wrote: http://www.auro-technologies.com/uploads/Auro3D-Octopus-White-Paper-v2-7-2017.pdf Will read. If ambisonic relevant, will put into Motherlode in time. It concludes that although 24-bit operation is advantageous for audio creation purposes it is inadvisable

[Sursound] CF spectrum vs L & R in stereo etc

2012-10-15 Thread Richard Lee
.. was Somting for the Weekend - Commerisal 3D sound > Sure, the center phantom image generated as a sum of two identical L/R > signals sounds a little different. But little is the operative word. ... Most > people do not notice this at all. It's not that we don't notice but that we are so used