subject:"\[Sursound\] an exploratory mail"

Re: [Sursound] an exploratory mail

2013-01-25 Thread Stefan Schreiber

m Sweden -Original Message- From: sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu [mailto:sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu] On Behalf Of Stefan Schreiber Sent: den 24 januari 2013 04:33 To: Surround Sound discussion group Subject: Re: [Sursound] an exploratory mail Richard Dobson wrote: On 23/01/2013 01:39

Re: [Sursound] an exploratory mail

2013-01-24 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm

Stockholm Sweden -Original Message- From: sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu [mailto:sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu] On Behalf Of Stefan Schreiber Sent: den 24 januari 2013 04:33 To: Surround Sound discussion group Subject: Re: [Sursound] an exploratory mail Richard Dobson wrote: > O

Re: [Sursound] an exploratory mail

2013-01-23 Thread Stefan Schreiber

Richard Dobson wrote: On 23/01/2013 01:39, Stefan Schreiber wrote: .. Why are you actually not reading what I was posting? One of the requirements is "arbitrary" speaker layouts. Full stop. (There will be some fixed layouts, I guess. But still.) ... of multi-channel audio programs and the

Re: [Sursound] an exploratory mail

2013-01-23 Thread Richard Dobson

On 23/01/2013 01:39, Stefan Schreiber wrote: .. Why are you actually not reading what I was posting? One of the requirements is "arbitrary" speaker layouts. Full stop. (There will be some fixed layouts, I guess. But still.) ... of multi-channel audio programs and the ability to flexibly rende

Re: [Sursound] an exploratory mail

2013-01-22 Thread Stefan Schreiber

Gabriel Wolf wrote: In practice, those defining such a format need not only to define the file format itself, but also define and publish basic tools to create/encode and decode, to a suitably wide range of representative speaker arrangements; and of course to be able to confirm the whole thing

Re: [Sursound] an exploratory mail

2013-01-22 Thread Gabriel Wolf

In practice, those defining such a format need not only to define the file format itself, but also define and publish basic tools to create/encode and decode, to a suitably wide range of representative speaker arrangements; and of course to be able to confirm the whole thing with listening tests.

Re: [Sursound] an exploratory mail

2013-01-22 Thread Richard Dobson

On 21/01/2013 23:51, Gabriel Wolf wrote: ... Ambisonic's "problem" was that people were happy, a posteriori, to agree that AMB was inadequate, but were unable to agree on what a proper HOA format should comprise, except inasmuch as plain old 3rd order 3D (the maximum AMB supports) was not good en

Re: [Sursound] an exploratory mail

2013-01-21 Thread Stefan Schreiber

Hi Gabriel, I would like to give some short commentaries inside your text, open for further discussion... Gabriel Wolf wrote: Dear Sursounders, the initial post of "A proposal for an Ambisonics based 3D audio codec ..." by Stefan Schreiber put all the things together so clearly and nicely

Re: [Sursound] an exploratory mail

2013-01-21 Thread Gabriel Wolf

Actually by me, back in 2000, along with the CDP Toolkit which enabled AMB files to be created: http://people.bath.ac.uk/masrwd/bformat.html The Ambisonic community sort of discovered it a while later. Oh I see. That was before I joined Sursound. Ambisonic's "problem" was that people were hap

Re: [Sursound] an exploratory mail

2013-01-21 Thread Richard Dobson

On 21/01/2013 17:22, Gabriel Wolf wrote: Dear Sursounders, ... We did standardisation before. AMB has been declared by Martin Leese seven years ago (if I remember correctly). It has been worked out. Actually by me, back in 2000, along with the CDP Toolkit which enabled AMB files to be crea

[Sursound] an exploratory mail

2013-01-21 Thread Gabriel Wolf

Dear Sursounders, the initial post of "A proposal for an Ambisonics based 3D audio codec ..." by Stefan Schreiber put all the things together so clearly and nicely. MPEG-H 3D Audio might be the beginning of commercial breakthrough in 3D audio. Ambisonics has been there since the 70's. We all