Re: [Sursound] Transient time differences

2012-04-02 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
On 04/02/2012 11:51 PM, Eric Benjamin wrote: I can't answer the question precisely without either doing an experiment or by doing many hours of calculations. a good online tool that does many of the calculations relevant to ITD and ILD reproduction is available from helmut wittek at http://ha

Re: [Sursound] Transient time differences

2012-04-02 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
On 04/02/2012 08:37 PM, Eric Benjamin wrote: I believe that the "glockenspiel effect" that you describe arises because the localization cues experienced by the listener are different for ITDs than for ILDs. Because we primarily rely on ITDs at low frequencies and ILDs at high frequencies, if th

[Sursound] Transient time differences

2012-04-02 Thread JEFF SILBERMAN
--- On Mon, 4/2/12, Eric Benjamin wrote: > Don't take this to mean that I don't like ORTF recordings.  > I do like them.  The > best stereo recording that I have ever made was an ORTF > recording. But then, I'm > not a very good recording engineer.  I think that one of > the reasons that I lik

[Sursound] Transient time differences

2012-04-02 Thread JEFF SILBERMAN
--- On Mon, 4/2/12, Eric Benjamin wrote: > In subsequent thinking about his question it occurs to me > that the plausibility, > not of the signals in the recording but of acoustic signals > that enter the > listener's ears, is an important indicator of whether the > listener finds the > repr

Re: [Sursound] Transient time differences

2012-04-02 Thread Robert Greene
which may compensate for the spaciousness that is lost in stereo reproduction. I will do some calculations on ORTF stereo so that I can understand it better. - Original Message From: Robert Greene To: Surround Sound discussion group Sent: Mon, April 2, 2012 1:44:28 PM Subject: Re:

Re: [Sursound] Transient time differences

2012-04-02 Thread Eric Benjamin
in stereo reproduction. I will do some calculations on ORTF stereo so that I can understand it better. - Original Message From: Robert Greene To: Surround Sound discussion group Sent: Mon, April 2, 2012 1:44:28 PM Subject: Re: [Sursound] Transient time differences Thanks for the information.

Re: [Sursound] Transient time differences

2012-04-02 Thread Robert Greene
Thanks for the information. But here is my question in more precise form: Suppose you do a recording with ORTF(which of course has its own set of problems). Suppose you record a source that is say 15 degrees left of center. and that the source is a pistol shot(an impulse). Now the impulse will ar

[Sursound] Transient time differences

2012-04-02 Thread Eric Benjamin
Since this has moved away from the point of the original query and to a technical issue, I'm starting a new thread.  Please forgive me if I get a bit pedantic here.  I'm still concerned that you mean something different by "transient time of arrival differences" than I do by ITDs. I'll repeat m