Re: [Sursound] Trans-Dimensional Portal

2012-10-12 Thread Carsten Bohn
Hello Stefan ! Not that this is extremly important, but... This list has an amazing "side-effect", which is : getting to know "new words & things" that I haven't heard as off now, f.e. "M?l?e" : which Google translates in german to something like "fray in naval warfare? !? M?l?e?

Re: [Sursound] Trans-Dimensional Portal

2012-10-12 Thread Dave Malham
I hope you commented suitably... :-) On 12 October 2012 04:52, etienne deleflie wrote: >>> However, I do see there is a Surround Music group on FB that looks pretty >>> active. https://www.facebook.com/groups/472608276094365/ > > a quote from that page: > > "I’m playing a VDT (Verband Deutche To

Re: [Sursound] Trans-Dimensional Portal

2012-10-11 Thread Michael Chapman
> yes indeed, my mistake. > Hardly a "mistake" ... the Web's pretty big ;-)> I stumbled upon one of these when googling for something else, long ago, then forgot about it ... until this morning ... Not sure what (if anything) it does to the discussion, though ... (?). M. > Etienne > > On Fri, Oc

Re: [Sursound] Trans-Dimensional Portal

2012-10-11 Thread etienne deleflie
yes indeed, my mistake. Etienne On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 3:28 PM, Michael Chapman wrote: > > Also > > M. > >>> I think the *real* problem is that sursound does not have a publicly >>> available archive. >>> >>> Etienne >> >> You are at

Re: [Sursound] Trans-Dimensional Portal

2012-10-11 Thread Michael Chapman
Also M. >> I think the *real* problem is that sursound does not have a publicly >> available archive. >> >> Etienne > > You are at > ... > and I always thought this list was 'private'

Re: [Sursound] Trans-Dimensional Portal

2012-10-11 Thread Michael Chapman
> I think the *real* problem is that sursound does not have a publicly > available archive. > > Etienne You are at ... and I always thought this list was 'private' ... ;-(> (I think ... I may ... have seen other mirrors ... but not sure .

Re: [Sursound] Trans-Dimensional Portal

2012-10-11 Thread etienne deleflie
I think the *real* problem is that sursound does not have a publicly available archive. Etienne On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 2:52 PM, etienne deleflie wrote: >>> However, I do see there is a Surround Music group on FB that looks pretty >>> active. https://www.facebook.com/groups/472608276094365/ > >

Re: [Sursound] Trans-Dimensional Portal

2012-10-11 Thread etienne deleflie
>> However, I do see there is a Surround Music group on FB that looks pretty >> active. https://www.facebook.com/groups/472608276094365/ a quote from that page: "I’m playing a VDT (Verband Deutche Tonmeister) event at Galaxy 10/6 using an 8.0 setup (quad on the ground and quad in the air). I don

Re: [Sursound] Trans-Dimensional Portal

2012-10-11 Thread Sampo Syreeni
On 2012-10-11, Aaron Heller wrote: However, I do see there is a Surround Music group on FB that looks pretty active. https://www.facebook.com/groups/472608276094365/ This group might then benefit from an immediate mindmeld with ours. All admins as admins in the new group, all members being a

Re: [Sursound] Trans-Dimensional Portal

2012-10-11 Thread Sampo Syreeni
On 2012-10-11, Augustine Leudar wrote: What about a forum? An FB group is definitely a forum already. I mean mailing lists are s 1980s - with a forum you can easily see/search for earlier posts and topics? If search functionality is wanted, I'd advocate for more and better functionali

Re: [Sursound] Trans-Dimensional Portal

2012-10-11 Thread Sampo Syreeni
On 2012-10-11, Charlie Richmond wrote: How about a simple group called ambisonic or Ambisonics, in FB? There already is an ambisonics group in fb: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Ambisonics/ On FB, pages and groups are severa

Re: [Sursound] Trans-Dimensional Portal

2012-10-11 Thread Martin Leese
Augustine Leudar wrote: > What about a forum ? I mean mailing lists are s 1980s - with a forum > you can easily see/search for earlier posts and topics ? Is such a > suggestion blasphemous ? A forum was part of the original Ambisonia.com. It was little used, and was also SPAMmed to death. Pe

Re: [Sursound] Trans-Dimensional Portal

2012-10-11 Thread Augustine Leudar
thing is, facebook pages are a nightmare to find previous posts and threads. On 11 October 2012 18:19, Stefan Schreiber wrote: > Augustine Leudar wrote: > > What about a forum ? I mean mailing lists are s 1980s - with a forum >> you can easily see/search for earlier posts and topics ? I

Re: [Sursound] Trans-Dimensional Portal

2012-10-11 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
On 10/11/2012 06:59 PM, Augustine Leudar wrote: What about a forum ? I mean mailing lists are s 1980s - with a forum you can easily see/search for earlier posts and topics ? Is such a suggestion blasphemous ? not at all. if a facebook group works for some people, by all means go ahead. it'

Re: [Sursound] Trans-Dimensional Portal

2012-10-11 Thread Aaron Heller
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Charlie Richmond wrote: > On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Stefan Schreiber > wrote: > >> Sampo Syreeni wrote: >> >> >>> How about a simple group called ambisonic or Ambisonics, in FB? >> >> > There already is an ambisonics group in fb: > > https://www.facebook.co

Re: [Sursound] Trans-Dimensional Portal

2012-10-11 Thread Charlie Richmond
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 10:19 AM, Stefan Schreiber wrote: > Augustine Leudar wrote: > > What about a forum ? I mean mailing lists are s 1980s - with a forum >> you can easily see/search for earlier posts and topics ? Is such a >> suggestion blasphemous ? >> >> > > No, but forums are s 90s

Re: [Sursound] Trans-Dimensional Portal

2012-10-11 Thread Stefan Schreiber
Augustine Leudar wrote: What about a forum ? I mean mailing lists are s 1980s - with a forum you can easily see/search for earlier posts and topics ? Is such a suggestion blasphemous ? No, but forums are s 90s. FB is sooo noughties. Best, Stefan On 11 October 2012 17:55, Char

Re: [Sursound] Trans-Dimensional Portal

2012-10-11 Thread Stefan Schreiber
Martin Leese wrote: Carsten Bohn wrote: It has sort of got lost in the melee. ... This list has an amazing "side-effect", which is : getting to know "new words & things" that I haven't heard as off now, f.e. "M?l?e" : which Google translates in german to something like "fray in

Re: [Sursound] Trans-Dimensional Portal

2012-10-11 Thread Marc Lavallée
Email is still a valid and reliable technology. For archives (with search): https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/ http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.comp.audio.sursound Marc Augustine Leudar a écrit : > What about a forum ? I mean mailing lists are s 1980s - with a > forum you can e

Re: [Sursound] Trans-Dimensional Portal

2012-10-11 Thread Augustine Leudar
What about a forum ? I mean mailing lists are s 1980s - with a forum you can easily see/search for earlier posts and topics ? Is such a suggestion blasphemous ? On 11 October 2012 17:55, Charlie Richmond wrote: > On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Stefan Schreiber >wrote: > > > Sampo Syreeni

Re: [Sursound] Trans-Dimensional Portal

2012-10-11 Thread Charlie Richmond
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Stefan Schreiber wrote: > Sampo Syreeni wrote: > > >> How about a simple group called ambisonic or Ambisonics, in FB? > > There already is an ambisonics group in fb: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Ambisonics/

Re: [Sursound] Trans-Dimensional Portal

2012-10-11 Thread Stefan Schreiber
Sampo Syreeni wrote: On 2012-10-07, Tom Wilkinson wrote: I requested membership. Looking forward to learning as much as I can about Ambisonics. I've been a lurker here a couple years. Do keep your membership here even if the Facebook group succeeds: groups are better for lighter discussion

Re: [Sursound] Trans-Dimensional Portal

2012-10-11 Thread Stefan Schreiber
Sampo Syreeni wrote: On 2012-10-06, Aaron Heller wrote: There's more info about this at https://www.facebook.com/TransDimensionalPortal How about a simple group called ambisonic or Ambisonics, in FB? With a number of the current best-knowing, FB-willing people as admins? No transdimensio

Re: [Sursound] Trans-Dimensional Portal

2012-10-10 Thread Augustine Leudar
an academic duel to the death over facebook - swashbuckling stuff ! On 10 October 2012 18:20, Martin Leese wrote: > Carsten Bohn wrote: > > >>It has sort of got lost in the melee. > ... > > This list has an amazing "side-effect", which is > > : getting to know "new words & things" that I > > have

Re: [Sursound] Trans-Dimensional Portal

2012-10-10 Thread Martin Leese
Carsten Bohn wrote: >>It has sort of got lost in the melee. ... > This list has an amazing "side-effect", which is > : getting to know "new words & things" that I > haven't heard as off now, > f.e. "M?l?e" : which Google translates in german > to something like "fray in naval warfare? !? My Engli

Re: [Sursound] Trans-Dimensional Portal

2012-10-10 Thread Augustine Leudar
It definitely behoves you to remain among us Carsten (=; On 10 October 2012 11:29, Carsten Bohn wrote: > It has sort of got lost in the melee. Try: >> >> http://mur.mu.rs/?p=560 >> https://www.facebook.com/**TransDimensionalPortal >> >> Regards,

Re: [Sursound] Trans-Dimensional Portal

2012-10-10 Thread Carsten Bohn
It has sort of got lost in the melee. Try: http://mur.mu.rs/?p=560 https://www.facebook.com/TransDimensionalPortal Regards, Martin This list has an amazing "side-effect", which is : getting to know "new words & things" that I haven't heard as off now, f.e. "Mêlée" : which Google translates

Re: [Sursound] Trans-Dimensional Portal

2012-10-09 Thread Martin Leese
Augustine Leudar wrote: > so ... what's all this about a portal ? It has sort of got lost in the melee. Try: http://mur.mu.rs/?p=560 https://www.facebook.com/TransDimensionalPortal Regards, Martin -- Martin J Leese E-mail: martin.leese stanfordalumni.org Web: http://members.tripod.com/marti

Re: [Sursound] Trans-Dimensional Portal

2012-10-08 Thread Charlie Richmond
OK, to Richard Dobson and Robert Greene - We will add you to the group if you want - there are 120 people on there now But you aren't 'friends' of mine so I can't ask you to join C-) * Charlie Richmond - Richmond Sound Design - Skype: charlierichmond * http://www.RichmondSoundDesign.com

Re: [Sursound] Trans-Dimensional Portal

2012-10-08 Thread Regis Rossi A. Faria
I don't have FB account and don't desire one, although I imagine this as glamorous (and maybe useful) as having a telephone line in 1970 for those who like it. Hope the interesting things on surround sound published there come to us some other way. Regis Em 8/10/12 1:23 PM, Martin Leese

Re: [Sursound] Trans-Dimensional Portal

2012-10-08 Thread Augustine Leudar
so ... what's all this about a portal ? On 9 October 2012 01:24, Robert Greene wrote: > > This is funny but it is of course wrong, > I like facebook a lot, but I dislike text messages, > and so on. Which general types of things one likes > may develop early, but the details are not > set in sto

Re: [Sursound] Trans-Dimensional Portal

2012-10-08 Thread Robert Greene
This is funny but it is of course wrong, I like facebook a lot, but I dislike text messages, and so on. Which general types of things one likes may develop early, but the details are not set in stone. This kind of thing is an excuse for all kinds of bad stuff that is supposed to be progress but i

Re: [Sursound] Trans-Dimensional Portal

2012-10-08 Thread Robert Greene
It is rather alarming how insubstantial it all is-- google ,facebook, apple selling gadgets that are really quite useless and google and facebook making money on ads and no other way(google sells how far up the search list you are but that is ad stuff too in effect) The whole USA and a good deal

Re: [Sursound] Trans-Dimensional Portal

2012-10-08 Thread Richard Dobson
Oh well, looks like I am the odd one out, again...I am on FB, but under what for convenience I will call my "stage name", which my friends know and understand but my music students or the idly curious will never find; On 08/10/2012 21:54, Fons Adriaensen wrote: In my case, the *reason* is th

Re: [Sursound] Trans-Dimensional Portal

2012-10-08 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Mon, Oct 08, 2012 at 10:23:51AM -0600, Martin Leese wrote: > In my case, the reason was elegantly > explained by Douglas Adams: > > ... Nice description, and typical DA, but it doesn't _explain_ anything, nor provide _reasons_ for acting that way. In my case, the *reason* is that IMHO FB is

Re: [Sursound] Trans-Dimensional Portal

2012-10-08 Thread Martin Leese
John Leonard wrote: > Hmm, > > I'm strictly non-Facebook and I'm afraid I'm not going to change my views, > even for Ambisonics. Ditto. In my case, the reason was elegantly explained by Douglas Adams: I've [Douglas Adams has] come up with a set of rules that describe our reactions to technology

Re: [Sursound] Trans-Dimensional Portal

2012-10-08 Thread Michael Chapman
Eric Benjamin wrote : >> I don't understand what would be the benefit of a facebook group > > I certainly sympathize with all of those who have posted anti-facebook > comments. > That is why I maintain only a minimal facebook presence. But it does > seem to > me that there are some benefits. Li

Re: [Sursound] Trans-Dimensional Portal

2012-10-08 Thread Eric Benjamin
mmentary with supplementary pictures or audio recordings. Eric - Original Message From: etienne deleflie To: Surround Sound discussion group Sent: Sun, October 7, 2012 5:55:23 PM Subject: Re: [Sursound] Trans-Dimensional Portal I'm also anti-facebook (even though I am on it) ...

Re: [Sursound] Trans-Dimensional Portal

2012-10-07 Thread Michael Chapman
Marc Lavallée wrote : > > This list is not the place to explain why, but I must also mention > that I'm "strictly non-Facebook". Amen ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound

Re: [Sursound] Trans-Dimensional Portal

2012-10-07 Thread etienne deleflie
I'm also anti-facebook (even though I am on it) and I don't understand what would be the benefit of a facebook group. Wouldn't it just banalise the conversations? Etienne >>I'm strictly non-Facebook and I'm afraid I'm not going to change my >>views, even for Ambisonics. > > I am with you, Jo

Re: [Sursound] Trans-Dimensional Portal

2012-10-07 Thread David Pickett
At 15:53 07/10/2012, John Leonard wrote: >I'm strictly non-Facebook and I'm afraid I'm not going to change my >views, even for Ambisonics. I am with you, John, and the others that have agreed. David ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu htt

Re: [Sursound] Trans-Dimensional Portal

2012-10-07 Thread Marc Lavallée
This list is not the place to explain why, but I must also mention that I'm "strictly non-Facebook". I hope that the results of the TDP project will be available not only on FB... This project is like my domestic ambisonics project; I postponed it because of a lack of time and energy, but I alrea

Re: [Sursound] Trans-Dimensional Portal

2012-10-07 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Sun, Oct 07, 2012 at 10:03:52PM +0100, John Leonard wrote: > That's good to hear, but it's one of my rules that I won't > subscribe to Facebook. Same here. -- FA A world of exhaustive, reliable metadata would be an utopia. It's also a pipe-dream, founded on self-delusion, nerd hubris and hy

Re: [Sursound] Trans-Dimensional Portal

2012-10-07 Thread Ronald C.F. Antony
On 7 Oct 2012, at 16:53, John Leonard wrote: > I'm strictly non-Facebook and I'm afraid I'm not going to change my views, > even for Ambisonics. Ditto. I use FB, but in an extremely limited way, and I refuse to do apps, games, likes and any of that crap. Ronald __

Re: [Sursound] Trans-Dimensional Portal

2012-10-07 Thread John Leonard
That's good to hear, but it's one of my rules that I won't subscribe to Facebook. I think it's probably one of the main scourges of the internet, run by a deeply unpleasant person and existing solely for the purpose of selling targeted advertising - or spam. I get enough of that without adding t

Re: [Sursound] Trans-Dimensional Portal

2012-10-07 Thread Charlie Richmond
On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 1:53 PM, John Leonard wrote: > Hmm, > > I'm strictly non-Facebook and I'm afraid I'm not going to change my views, > even for Ambisonics. > > Sampo changed the name of the group to Surround sound to get away from the ambisonics label and we now have almost 100 members. Cha

Re: [Sursound] Trans-Dimensional Portal

2012-10-07 Thread John Leonard
Hmm, I'm strictly non-Facebook and I'm afraid I'm not going to change my views, even for Ambisonics. Regards, John On 7 Oct 2012, at 06:46, Sampo Syreeni wrote: > On 2012-10-06, Charlie Richmond wrote: > >>> I'd put up a group already if said persons were part of my FB-circuit. >> >> I'm i

Re: [Sursound] Trans-Dimensional Portal

2012-10-07 Thread Tom Wilkinson
I will. -Original Message- From: sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu [mailto:sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu] On Behalf Of Sampo Syreeni Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2012 1:39 AM To: Surround Sound discussion group Subject: Re: [Sursound] Trans-Dimensional Portal On 2012-10-07, Tom Wilkinson wrote

Re: [Sursound] Trans-Dimensional Portal

2012-10-07 Thread Sampo Syreeni
On 2012-10-07, Tom Wilkinson wrote: I requested membership. Looking forward to learning as much as I can about Ambisonics. I've been a lurker here a couple years. Do keep your membership here even if the Facebook group succeeds: groups are better for lighter discussion and publicity. Mailing

Re: [Sursound] Trans-Dimensional Portal

2012-10-07 Thread Tom Wilkinson
46 PM To: Surround Sound discussion group Subject: Re: [Sursound] Trans-Dimensional Portal On 2012-10-06, Charlie Richmond wrote: >> I'd put up a group already if said persons were part of my FB-circuit. > > I'm in. So you are. The group resides at https://www.facebook.com/

Re: [Sursound] Trans-Dimensional Portal

2012-10-06 Thread Sampo Syreeni
On 2012-10-06, Charlie Richmond wrote: I'd put up a group already if said persons were part of my FB-circuit. I'm in. So you are. The group resides at https://www.facebook.com/groups/355566654536126/ and Charlie is already an admin. Let's go from there, with every long time talker on this

Re: [Sursound] Trans-Dimensional Portal

2012-10-06 Thread Charlie Richmond
On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 10:35 PM, Sampo Syreeni wrote: > On 2012-10-06, Aaron Heller wrote: > > There's more info about this at >> >> https://www.facebook.com/**TransDimensionalPortal >> > > How about a simple group called ambisonic or Ambisonics,

Re: [Sursound] Trans-Dimensional Portal

2012-10-06 Thread Sampo Syreeni
On 2012-10-06, Aaron Heller wrote: There's more info about this at https://www.facebook.com/TransDimensionalPortal How about a simple group called ambisonic or Ambisonics, in FB? With a number of the current best-knowing, FB-willing people as admins? No transdimensional nonsense there, but

Re: [Sursound] Trans-Dimensional Portal

2012-10-06 Thread Aaron Heller
On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 10:13 AM, Martin Leese wrote: > Hi All, > > At present, no more details on this are > available, but it looks like one to watch: > http://mur.mu.rs/?p=560 There's more info about this at https://www.facebook.com/TransDimensionalPortal -- Aaron (hel...@ai.sri.com) M

[Sursound] Trans-Dimensional Portal

2012-10-06 Thread Martin Leese
Hi All, At present, no more details on this are available, but it looks like one to watch: http://mur.mu.rs/?p=560 Regards, Martin -- Martin J Leese E-mail: martin.leese stanfordalumni.org Web: http://members.tripod.com/martin_leese/ ___ Sursound