Re: [Sursound] ORTF-3D With Higher-order Ambisonics

2020-10-22 Thread moskowitz
Steven Boardman wrote: > Have you tried it with first order? > I would of thought using one Harpexed octomic to synthesise all the spaced > mics, would be a bit blurry, did you try with two? Harpex only operates at first-order. We used OctoMic's first-order B-format as input to Harpex. We've us

Re: [Sursound] Recorder for ORTF-3D OUTDOOR SET

2020-10-22 Thread moskowitz
Jack Reynolds wrote > The only problem with using ambisonics mics is the high frequency limit > above which they stop working properly. A second order ambi mic reduces > this problem, but above about 7Khz the not quite coincident capsules > becomes a problem. This isn't correct. Here's OctoMic's

Re: [Sursound] Recorder for ORTF-3D OUTDOOR SET

2020-10-22 Thread Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
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Re: [Sursound] Recorder for ORTF-3D OUTDOOR SET

2020-10-22 Thread Augustine Leudar
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Re: [Sursound] Recorder for ORTF-3D OUTDOOR SET

2020-10-22 Thread Jack Reynolds
I upmix to third order and then use the Blue Ripple Spotlight plugin to isolate on half of the sound field from each mic and then combine the two into a single third order ambix signal to decode binaurally. It’s sound really nice. I’ll post a session with some files of a dawn chorus recording wh

Re: [Sursound] Recorder for ORTF-3D OUTDOOR SET

2020-10-22 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 04:42:28PM +0100, Jack Reynolds wrote: > I have had great results with a pair of spaced first order ambisonic mics > for binaural decoding. > Taking the left hemisphere of one of the mics, and right hemisphere of the > other How do you obtain only one hemisphere from a

Re: [Sursound] Recorder for ORTF-3D OUTDOOR SET

2020-10-22 Thread Jack Reynolds
I have had great results with a pair of spaced first order ambisonic mics for binaural decoding. Taking the left hemisphere of one of the mics, and right hemisphere of the other, then combining the two. The decorellation does add something nice and spacious to the sound. Sent from my iPhone

Re: [Sursound] Recorder for ORTF-3D OUTDOOR SET

2020-10-22 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 01:38:49PM +0100, Steven Boardman wrote: > I had an Ambeo and got rid of it for this reason. The A/B processing provided by Sennheiser sucks. It gets a lot better with a proper A/B processor computed from actual measurements. Ciao, -- FA _

Re: [Sursound] Recorder for ORTF-3D OUTDOOR SET

2020-10-22 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 12:36:38PM +0100, jack reynolds wrote: > The only problem with using ambisonics mics is the high frequency limit > above which they stop working properly. A second order ambi mic reduces > this problem, but above about 7Khz the not quite coincident capsules > becomes a prob

Re: [Sursound] Recorder for ORTF-3D OUTDOOR SET

2020-10-22 Thread Steven Boardman
> On 22 Oct 2020, at 13:19, michael strohmann wrote: > > regarding sound quality: i had my hand only at an sennheiser ambeo. did an > A/B comparison with Schoeps DMS setup. while the drums i recorded sounded > like drums via the Schoeps, they sounded like cardboard boxes via the ambeo. > or are o

Re: [Sursound] Recorder for ORTF-3D OUTDOOR SET

2020-10-22 Thread michael strohmann
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Re: [Sursound] Recorder for ORTF-3D OUTDOOR SET

2020-10-22 Thread Augustine Leudar
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Re: [Sursound] Recorder for ORTF-3D OUTDOOR SET

2020-10-22 Thread Augustine Leudar
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Re: [Sursound] Recorder for ORTF-3D OUTDOOR SET

2020-10-22 Thread Steven Boardman
Hi Jack If the spaced array was only using cardioids, then maybe their patterns would be more stable at higher frequencies, but not for near coincident spurs of mid/side (and the like). As they are even further apart than an ambisonic mic, and they aren’t calibrated together. Steve > On 22 O

Re: [Sursound] Recorder for ORTF-3D OUTDOOR SET

2020-10-22 Thread jack reynolds
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Re: [Sursound] Recorder for ORTF-3D OUTDOOR SET

2020-10-22 Thread Steven Boardman
> What makes you think that ORTF captures > 'a small 8th of a sphere' ?? I don’t.. Maybe I wasn’t clear. What I meant was replacing each ORTF capsule (or M/S pair) with an ambisonic mic, and decoding for the direction it should point. All spaced array setups can use ambisonic mics, as they can

Re: [Sursound] Recorder for ORTF-3D OUTDOOR SET

2020-10-22 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Wed, Oct 21, 2020 at 02:37:39PM +0100, Augustine Leudar wrote: > So if you > had say, 8 ambisonics mics pointed in 8 different directions ,in order to > record that small 8th of a sphere (or in this case cube) in the direction > they are pointed in (which is what the ORTF does) - how would th