Re: Troubles building world on stable/13 [the little bit of evidence about the compiler failures: a jemalloc-tie/ASLR-tie?]

2022-02-07 Thread Mark Millard
9859956049b5153b0e1b67f8f4a99622dc6f merge-base: CommitDate: 2022-01-15 12:55:32 + a5f698599560 (HEAD -> stable/13, freebsd/stable/13) Ignore debugger-injected signals left after detaching Bob's recent stable/13 context (kernel too) is more recent than mine. So the problems has been observed over a range of contexts. But, as I said, I've given up on finding a way to isolate whatever is going on. === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com

Re: git: 4a864f624a70 - main - vm_pageout: Print a more accurate message to the console before an OOM kill [MFC in time for 13.1?]

2022-02-26 Thread Mark Millard
On 2022-Jan-15, at 07:55, Mark Johnston wrote: > On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 09:38:56PM -0800, Mark Millard wrote: >> Thanks. This will allow me to remove part of my personal additions >> in this area --and my having to explain the misnomer when trying >> to help someone analyze

Re: git: 4a864f624a70 - main - vm_pageout: Print a more accurate message to the console before an OOM kill [MFC in time for 13.1?]

2022-02-28 Thread Mark Millard
On 2022-Feb-26, at 17:10, Mark Millard wrote: > On 2022-Jan-15, at 07:55, Mark Johnston wrote: > >> On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 09:38:56PM -0800, Mark Millard wrote: >>> Thanks. This will allow me to remove part of my personal additions >>> in this area --and my

Re: panic: data abort in critical section or under mutex (was: Re: panic: Unknown kernel exception 0 esr_el1 2000000 (on 14-CURRENT/aarch64 Feb 28))

2022-03-07 Thread Mark Millard
d up sensitivity to the get_pcpu details in rmlock in: https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/commit/?h=stable/13&id=543157870da5 (a 2022-03-04 commit) and stable/13 also has the get_pcpu misdefinition in: https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/commit/sys/arm64/include/pcpu.h?h=stable/13&id=63c858a04d56 . So an MFC would be appropriate in order for aarch64 to be reliable for any variations in get_pcpu in stable/13 (and for 13.1 to be so as well). === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com

Re: https://ci.freebsd.org/job/FreeBSD-main-amd64-gcc9_build broken again after openzfs merge: multiple definitions building --- all_subdir_rescue ---

2022-03-18 Thread Mark Millard
On 2022-Mar-18, at 12:32, Mark Millard wrote: > Looks like . . . > > /workspace/src/sys/contrib/openzfs/module/zstd/lib/common/error_private.h > and: > /workspace/src/sys/contrib/zstd/lib/common/error_private.h > > are both used in building in: > > /tmp/obj/works

Re: git: 43741377b143 - main - security/openssl: Security update to 1.1.1n

2022-03-19 Thread Mark Millard
x27;t been able to trigger any build failures on > -p8. Any hints on a reproducer would be useful. > > We can simply push a -p9 which reverts EN-22:10 and :11, but of course > it would be preferable to precisely identify the problem. Anything about the types of hardware involved that is different for those getting the problem vs. those that do not get the problem? May be it would be appropriate for folks getting the problem to detail their hardware configurations, including storage hardware. === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com

Re: git: 43741377b143 - main - security/openssl: Security update to 1.1.1n

2022-03-19 Thread Mark Millard
On 2022-Mar-19, at 11:07, Thomas Zander wrote: > On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 at 18:32, Mark Millard wrote: >> May be report to Mark J. how to run the same test builds >> that failed for -p8 but worked for -p7? > > Sure, good point. > A build that reliably causes broken packages

Re: git: 43741377b143 - main - security/openssl: Security update to 1.1.1n

2022-03-19 Thread Mark Millard
em vs. before that point. May be the history will help. https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current/2021-November/001052.html I've not had problems with the issue on main since then. === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com

Re: git: 43741377b143 - main - security/openssl: Security update to 1.1.1n

2022-03-19 Thread Mark Millard
On 2022-Mar-19, at 12:54, Mark Johnston wrote: > On Sat, Mar 19, 2022 at 12:00:20PM -0700, Mark Millard wrote: >> On 2022-Mar-19, at 11:07, Thomas Zander wrote: >> >>> On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 at 18:32, Mark Millard wrote: >>>> May be report to Mark J. how t

Re: git: 43741377b143 - main - security/openssl: Security update to 1.1.1n

2022-03-19 Thread Mark Millard
On 2022-Mar-19, at 14:24, Mark Millard wrote: > On 2022-Mar-19, at 12:54, Mark Johnston wrote: > >> On Sat, Mar 19, 2022 at 12:00:20PM -0700, Mark Millard wrote: >>> On 2022-Mar-19, at 11:07, Thomas Zander wrote: >>> >>>> On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 a

Re: git: 43741377b143 - main - security/openssl: Security update to 1.1.1n

2022-03-19 Thread Mark Millard
On 2022-Mar-19, at 14:34, Mark Millard wrote: > On 2022-Mar-19, at 14:24, Mark Millard wrote: > >> On 2022-Mar-19, at 12:54, Mark Johnston wrote: >> >>> On Sat, Mar 19, 2022 at 12:00:20PM -0700, Mark Millard wrote: >>>> On 2022-Mar-19, at 11:07, Thoma

Re: FreeBSD Errata Notice FreeBSD-EN-22:13.zfs

2022-03-21 Thread Mark Millard
SD-EN-22:11.zfs FreeBSD-EN-22:12.zfs FreeBSD-SA-22:02.wifi FreeBSD-SA-22:03.openssl . . . from the same commit. This might make it more difficult for some to verify what status they have for the zfs problem. === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com

A possible unintended difference in 13.1-RELEASE vs., for example, 13.1-RELEASE-p3

2022-11-03 Thread Mark Millard
esolved merge conflict". That update will identify the commit built for the binary update. === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com

Re: A possible unintended difference in 13.1-RELEASE vs., for example, 13.1-RELEASE-p3

2022-11-04 Thread Mark Millard
On 2022-Nov-4, at 11:37, Paul Mather wrote: > On Nov 3, 2022, at 11:50 PM, Mark Millard wrote: > >> I downloaded and looked at: >> >> FreeBSD-13.1-RELEASE-arm64-aarch64-RPI.img >> >> # mdconfig -u md0 -f FreeBSD-13.1-RELEASE-arm64-aarch64-RPI.img &

RE: LLVM error when building www/firefox 107.0_2,2

2022-11-19 Thread Mark Millard
thus using a more recent clang++ vintage as well. Thus, it suggests that "LLVM 13.0.1 from ports" has a problem that firefox's build ran into. === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com

RE: Unusual errors on recent stable/13 22-Dec-2022 (a related problem report on freebsd-ports?)

2022-12-23 Thread Mark Millard
S=no avoids a problem for poudriere bulk builds on 13.1 amd64. (Unclear if the note is for stable/13 vs. releng/13.1 vs. both.) I'll note repeat the material here but it might be worth a look. === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com

Re: Unusual errors on recent stable/13 22-Dec-2022 (a related problem report on freebsd-ports?)

2022-12-23 Thread Mark Millard
On Dec 23, 2022, at 10:14, Mark Millard wrote: > Jonathan Chen wrote on > Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2022 19:21:37 UTC : > >> I recently updated my package builder machine to the >> stable/13-n253297-fc15d5bf1109of (22-Dec-2022); and appear to be having >> some unusual

Re: Unusual errors on recent stable/13 22-Dec-2022 (a related problem report on freebsd-ports?)

2022-12-23 Thread Mark Millard
Jonathan Chen wrote on Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2022 18:40:27 UTC : > On 24/12/22 07:14, Mark Millard wrote: > > Jonathan Chen wrote on > > Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2022 19:21:37 UTC : > > > >> I recently updated my package builder machine to the > >> stable/13-n2

RE: ofw_pci: Fix incorrectly sized softc causing pci(4) out-of-bounds reads (Should it have been MFC'd?)

2022-12-26 Thread Mark Millard
ce might not be preserved.) === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com

Re: ofw_pci: Fix incorrectly sized softc causing pci(4) out-of-bounds reads (Should it have been MFC'd?)

2022-12-26 Thread Mark Millard
On Dec 26, 2022, at 19:54, Mark Millard wrote: > Should the following have been MFC'd? (I ran into this while > looking to see why I see a boot message oddity on 13.* that > I do not see on main [so: 14]. There was a time when main > also produced the odd messages. But I

stable/13 snapshot's /etc/rc.d/machine_id has use of main's startmsg from /etc/rc.subr so it reports 2 "eval: startmsg: not found"

2023-01-21 Thread Mark Millard
/etc/rc.d/machine_id: startmsg -n "Creating ${machine_id_file} " /etc/rc.d/machine_id: startmsg 'done.' (No more matches found.) The following was not found on stable/13: /etc/rc.subr:# startmsg /etc/rc.subr:startmsg() /etc/rc.subr: startmsg "Sta

FYI: upcoming 13.2-RELEASE vs. 8 GiByte RPi4B's based on U-Boot 2023.01 recently in use, given UEFI style booting

2023-02-18 Thread Mark Millard
not aware of any other type of FreeBSD aarch64 context broken via the use of 2023.01 U-Boot. === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com

RE: 13.2 BETA2: how do debug META_MODE?

2023-02-20 Thread Mark Millard
: https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2021-January/078488.html and: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=257616 . === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com

Re: 13.2 BETA2: how do debug META_MODE?

2023-02-21 Thread Mark Millard
On Feb 21, 2023, at 04:55, Peter wrote: > On Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 08:44:59PM -0800, Mark Millard wrote: > ! Peter wrote on > ! Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2023 03:45:12 UTC : > ! > ! > on /some/ of my nodes, META_MODE seems not being honored anymore: > ! > I had to build th

Re: 13.2 BETA2: how do debug META_MODE?

2023-02-21 Thread Mark Millard
On Feb 21, 2023, at 11:56, Mark Millard wrote: > On Feb 21, 2023, at 04:55, Peter wrote: > >> On Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 08:44:59PM -0800, Mark Millard wrote: >> ! Peter wrote on >> ! Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2023 03:45:12 UTC : >> ! >> ! > on /some/ of my n

Re: 13.2 BETA2: how do debug META_MODE?

2023-02-21 Thread Mark Millard
On Feb 21, 2023, at 11:56, Mark Millard wrote: > On Feb 21, 2023, at 04:55, Peter wrote: > >> On Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 08:44:59PM -0800, Mark Millard wrote: >> ! Peter wrote on >> ! Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2023 03:45:12 UTC : >> ! >> ! > on /some/ of my n

Re: 13.2 BETA2: how do debug META_MODE?

2023-02-21 Thread Mark Millard
On Feb 21, 2023, at 18:10, Peter wrote: > On Tue, Feb 21, 2023 at 11:56:13AM -0800, Mark Millard wrote: > ! On Feb 21, 2023, at 04:55, Peter wrote: > ! > ! > ! # cd /usr/src/ > ! > ! # env WITH_META_MODE=yes make buildworld > ! > ! # env WITH_META_MODE=yes make

Re: [analysis] 13.2 BETA2: how do debug META_MODE?

2023-02-21 Thread Mark Millard
ler > 230222000242.oper.std.jail.sst:real 149.51 jail w/o compiler > 230222000242.rail.std.jail.sst:real 151.73 jail w/o compiler > 230222000242.tele.std.jail.sst:real 150.52 jail w/o compiler > > pass4 > (10 vcore) > 230222021535.edge.std.sst: real 1018.79 base w/ kernels > 230222021535.admn.std.jail.sst:real 101.61 jail w/ compiler > 230222021535.data.std.jail.sst:real 67.47 jail w/o compiler > 230222021535.iamk.std.jail.sst:real 100.91 jail w/ compiler > 230222021535.oper.std.jail.sst:real 66.52 jail w/o compiler > 230222021535.rail.std.jail.sst:real 68.00 jail w/o compiler > 230222021535.tele.std.jail.sst:real 66.54 jail w/o compiler === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com

Re: 13.2 BETA2: how do debug META_MODE?

2023-02-21 Thread Mark Millard
On Feb 21, 2023, at 19:11, Peter wrote: > On Tue, Feb 21, 2023 at 06:44:09PM -0800, Mark Millard wrote: > ! On Feb 21, 2023, at 18:10, Peter wrote: > ! > ! > On Tue, Feb 21, 2023 at 11:56:13AM -0800, Mark Millard wrote: > ! > ! On Feb 21, 2023, at 04:55, Peter wrote: >

Re: 13.2 BETA2: how do debug META_MODE?

2023-02-21 Thread Mark Millard
On Feb 21, 2023, at 20:51, Mark Millard wrote: > On Feb 21, 2023, at 19:11, Peter wrote: > >> On Tue, Feb 21, 2023 at 06:44:09PM -0800, Mark Millard wrote: >> ! On Feb 21, 2023, at 18:10, Peter wrote: >> ! >> ! > On Tue, Feb 21, 2023 at 11:56:13AM -0800, Ma

Re: 13.2 BETA2: how do debug META_MODE?

2023-02-21 Thread Mark Millard
On Feb 21, 2023, at 21:53, Mark Millard wrote: > On Feb 21, 2023, at 20:51, Mark Millard wrote: > >> On Feb 21, 2023, at 19:11, Peter wrote: >> >>> On Tue, Feb 21, 2023 at 06:44:09PM -0800, Mark Millard wrote: >>> ! On Feb 21, 2023, at 18:10, Peter wrote:

Re: 13.2 BETA2: how do debug META_MODE?

2023-02-22 Thread Mark Millard
sr/lib32/libcrypto.so' is newer than the target... 1 file '/usr/obj/BUILDs/main-amd64-nodbg-clang/usr/main-src/amd64.amd64/tmp/usr/lib32/libc.so.7' is newer than the target... 1 file '/usr/obj/BUILDs/main-amd64-nodbg-clang/usr/main-src/amd64.amd64/tmp/usr/lib32/Scrt1.o' is newer than the target... 1 file '/usr/obj/BUILDs/main-amd64-nodbg-clang/usr/main-src/amd64.amd64/tmp/usr/lib/libssl.so' is newer than the target... 1 file '/usr/obj/BUILDs/main-amd64-nodbg-clang/usr/main-src/amd64.amd64/tmp/usr/lib/libcxxrt.so' is newer than the target... 1 file '/usr/obj/BUILDs/main-amd64-nodbg-clang/usr/main-src/amd64.amd64/tmp/usr/lib/libctf.so' is newer than the target... 1 file '/usr/obj/BUILDs/main-amd64-nodbg-clang/usr/main-src/amd64.amd64/tmp/usr/lib/libcrypto.so' is newer than the target... 1 file '/usr/obj/BUILDs/main-amd64-nodbg-clang/usr/main-src/amd64.amd64/tmp/lib/libc.so.7' is newer than the target... (The list is already short, so no subset listed.) === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com

Re: 13.2 BETA2: how do debug META_MODE?

2023-02-22 Thread Mark Millard
On Feb 22, 2023, at 14:07, Mark Millard wrote: > This is just an FYI about an experiment. The experiment had a flaw: I did not do the builds as -j1 (or no -j at all) but the parallel activities changes the sequencing of the lines from run to run. Thus the "diff -u" part finds mor

Re: 13.2 BETA2: how do debug META_MODE?

2023-02-24 Thread Mark Millard
csmapper mkdir mktemp mtree mv nawk patch realpath rm sed sh sort touch tr truncate uudecode uuencode wc xargs .MAKE.META.IGNORE_PATHS+= ${IGNORELEGACY_NOSYMLINKPREFIX}/sbin/${ignore_legacy_tool} .endfor # .for ignore_other_tool in ctfconvert objcopy nm .MAKE.META.IGNORE_PATHS+= ${IGNOREOTHER_NOSYMLINKPREFIX}/${ignore_other_tool} .endfor # .MAKE.META.IGNORE_PATHS:= ${.MAKE.META.IGNORE_PATHS} The . . ./tmp/usr/bin/* ones ( ctfconvert objcopy nm ) may be more questionable than the . . ./tmp/legacy/usr/sbin/* ones. This likely will not prevent the likes of a system with clang14 -> system with clang15 transition having clang15 rebuild itself once the clang15 system is running and another buildworld is started. === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com

Re: git: a28ccb32bf56 - main - machine-id: generate a compact version of the uuid

2023-03-03 Thread Mark Millard
ID or any part of it must not be used directly. Instead the machine ID should be hashed with a cryptographic, keyed hash function, using a fixed, application-specific key. That way the ID will be properly unique, and derived in a constant way from the machine ID but there will be no way to retrieve the original machine ID from the application-specific one. END QUOTE Is that at least recommended for handling FreeBSD's /etc/hostid content? Is FreeBSD going to document /etc/machine-id content properties in a similar manor? If FreeBSD ends up with a /etc/machine-id that does not have the properties and recommended principles of use, it would appear that the /etc/machine-id path would be highly misleading and, so, inappropriate. === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com

Re: git: a28ccb32bf56 - main - machine-id: generate a compact version of the uuid

2023-03-04 Thread Mark Millard
On Mar 4, 2023, at 06:32, Tijl Coosemans wrote: > > On Fri, 3 Mar 2023 10:36:20 -0800 Mark Millard wrote: >> What are the properties for the content of /etc/hostid >> in FreeBSD? Where are they documented? >> >> /etc/machine-id has strong property guarnatee >

SYSDECODE_ABI_FREEBSD32 for #include : armv7 for aarch64?

2023-03-07 Thread Mark Millard
kern.supported_archs kern.supported_archs: aarch64 armv7 === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com

I just updated to main-n261544-cee09bda03c8 based (via source) and now /etc/machine-id and /var/db/machine-id disagree ; more

2023-03-16 Thread Mark Millard
've not been dealing with releng/13.2 but upgrades from releng/13.1 and before likely have the same questions for what the handling should be vs. what it might actually be. Different ways of upgrading might not be in agreement, for all I know. === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com

Re: I just updated to main-n261544-cee09bda03c8 based (via source) and now /etc/machine-id and /var/db/machine-id disagree ; more

2023-03-16 Thread Mark Millard
On Mar 16, 2023, at 15:55, Mark Millard wrote: > # cat /etc/hostid /etc/machine-id /var/db/machine-id > a4f7fbeb-f668-11de-b280-ebb65474e619 > a4f7fbebf66811deb280ebb65474e619 > 7227cd89727a462186e3ba680d0ee142 > > (I'll not be keeping these values for the example syste

Re: I just updated to main-n261544-cee09bda03c8 based (via source) and now /etc/machine-id and /var/db/machine-id disagree ; more

2023-03-16 Thread Mark Millard
r possible prior history sequences with /var/db/machine-id and /etc/hostid ( but not /etc/machine-id ). > Colin Percival > > On 3/16/23 15:55, Mark Millard wrote: >> # cat /etc/hostid /etc/machine-id /var/db/machine-id >> a4f7fbeb-f668-11de-b280-ebb65474e619 >> a4f7fbebf6

Re: I just updated to main-n261544-cee09bda03c8 based (via source) and now /etc/machine-id and /var/db/machine-id disagree ; more

2023-03-16 Thread Mark Millard
On Mar 16, 2023, at 17:27, Mark Millard wrote: > On Mar 16, 2023, at 16:48, Colin Percival wrote: > >> I think the current situation should be sorted out aside from potential >> issues >> for people who upgraded to a "broken" version before updating to th

Re: I just updated to main-n261544-cee09bda03c8 based (via source) and now /etc/machine-id and /var/db/machine-id disagree ; more

2023-03-17 Thread Mark Millard
ing to the latest >> code -- CCing bapt and tijl just in case since they're more familiar with >> this >> than I am. >> >> Colin Percival >> >> On 3/16/23 15:55, Mark Millard wrote: >>> # cat /etc/hostid /etc/machine-id /var/d

Re: I just updated to main-n261544-cee09bda03c8 based (via source) and now /etc/machine-id and /var/db/machine-id disagree ; more

2023-03-17 Thread Mark Millard
blished via ntp, apparently. (I did not make such adjustments to the snapshot before starting the upgrade.) I do not know if any of the "install: ///var/db/etcupdate/ . . . " lines or the rmdir line are important. It earlier indicated 5708 patches were fetched and that 377 files were a

Re: I just updated to main-n261544-cee09bda03c8 based (via source) and now /etc/machine-id and /var/db/machine-id disagree ; more

2023-03-17 Thread Mark Millard
On Mar 17, 2023, at 18:24, Mark Millard wrote: > The 13.1-RELEASE (snapshot) to 13.2-RC3 freebsd-update's > upgrade sequence did not go well relative to my being > prompted to do the right thing to establish /etc/machine-id . > After the last reboot (kernel upgrade, pres

Re: I just updated to main-n261544-cee09bda03c8 based (via source) and now /etc/machine-id and /var/db/machine-id disagree ; more

2023-03-17 Thread Mark Millard
On Mar 17, 2023, at 19:04, Mark Millard wrote: > On Mar 17, 2023, at 18:24, Mark Millard wrote: > >> The 13.1-RELEASE (snapshot) to 13.2-RC3 freebsd-update's >> upgrade sequence did not go well relative to my being >> prompted to do the right thing to establish /

releng/13.1 amd64 atomic_fcmpset_long parameter order and dst,expect,src (source) vs. src,dst,expect (crash dump report)

2023-03-21 Thread Mark Millard
al protection fault while in kernel mode crash. The code was inside nfsd. ( Note: 18446741877726026240 == 0xfe00b52e9a00 ) The crash is not mine. It is a new type of example from an ongoing crash-evidence gathering session. See: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=267028#c147 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=267028#c148 === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com

stable/13 missing 2 Windows Dev Kit 2023 related updates that main [so: 14] has

2023-05-10 Thread Mark Millard
7;ve found --and some or all of what I found missing may not be involved in the EFI loader issue.) === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com

Re: Possible regression in main causing poor performance

2023-08-18 Thread Mark Millard
On Aug 18, 2023, at 19:09, Mark Millard wrote: > Glen Barber wrote on > Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2023 00:10:59 UTC : > >> I am somewhat inclined to look in the direction of ZFS here, as two >> things changed: >> >> 1) the build machine in question was recentl

Re: Possible regression in main causing poor performance

2023-08-28 Thread Mark Millard
Has any more been learned about this? Is it still an issue? === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com

Re: Possible regression in main causing poor performance

2023-09-05 Thread Mark Millard
On Sep 5, 2023, at 08:58, Cy Schubert wrote: > In message <20230830204406.24fd...@slippy.cwsent.com>, Cy Schubert writes: >> In message <20230830184426.gm1...@freebsd.org>, Glen Barber writes: >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Aug 28, 2023 at 06:06:09PM -

main [and, likely, stable/14]: do not set vfs.zfs.bclone_enabled=1 with that zpool feature enabled because it still leads to panics

2023-09-07 Thread Mark Millard
3 . . . git: f789381671a3 - stable/14 - zfs: merge openzfs/zfs@32949f256 (zfs-2.2-release) into stable/14 that has required fixes for other issues. === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com

Re: main [and, likely, stable/14]: do not set vfs.zfs.bclone_enabled=1 with that zpool feature enabled because it still leads to panics

2023-09-07 Thread Mark Millard
[Drat, the request to rerun my tests did not not mention the more recent change: vfs: copy_file_range() between multiple mountpoints of the same fs type and I'd not noticed on my own and ran the test without updating.] On Sep 7, 2023, at 11:02, Mark Millard wrote: > I was requested

Re: main [and, likely, stable/14]: do not set vfs.zfs.bclone_enabled=1 with that zpool feature enabled because it still leads to panics

2023-09-07 Thread Mark Millard
On Sep 7, 2023, at 11:48, Glen Barber wrote: > On Thu, Sep 07, 2023 at 11:17:22AM -0700, Mark Millard wrote: >> When I next have time, should I retry based on a more recent >> vintage of main that includes 969071be938c ? >> > > Yes, please, if you can. As stands, I

Re: main [and, likely, stable/14]: do not set vfs.zfs.bclone_enabled=1 with that zpool feature enabled because it still leads to panics

2023-09-07 Thread Mark Millard
On Sep 7, 2023, at 13:07, Alexander Motin wrote: > Thanks, Mark. > > On 07.09.2023 15:40, Mark Millard wrote: >> On Sep 7, 2023, at 11:48, Glen Barber wrote: >>> On Thu, Sep 07, 2023 at 11:17:22AM -0700, Mark Millard wrote: >>>> When I next have time, s

Re: main [and, likely, stable/14]: do not set vfs.zfs.bclone_enabled=1 with that zpool feature enabled because it still leads to panics

2023-09-07 Thread Mark Millard
[Today's main-snapshot kernel panics as well.] On Sep 7, 2023, at 16:32, Mark Millard wrote: > On Sep 7, 2023, at 13:07, Alexander Motin wrote: > >> Thanks, Mark. >> >> On 07.09.2023 15:40, Mark Millard wrote: >>> On Sep 7, 2023, at 11:48, Glen Barber

Re: main [and, likely, stable/14]: do not set vfs.zfs.bclone_enabled=1 with that zpool feature enabled because it still leads to panics

2023-09-08 Thread Mark Millard
nftest.tmp conftest.nl conftest.out . . . (history removed) . . . # uname -apKU FreeBSD amd64-ZFS 15.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 15.0-CURRENT amd64 150 #0 main-n265205-03a7c36ddbc0: Thu Sep 7 03:10:34 UTC 2023 r...@releng3.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/sys/GENERIC amd64 amd64 150 150 In my test environment with yesterday's snapshot kernel in use and with vfs.zfs.bclone_enabled=1 : # ~/bclone_panic.sh count: 1 count: 2 count: 3 count: 4 count: 5 count: 6 count: 7 count: 8 then panic: no 9. === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com

Re: main [and, likely, stable/14]: do not set vfs.zfs.bclone_enabled=1 with that zpool feature enabled because it still leads to panics

2023-09-08 Thread Mark Millard
Tobuild: 33800 Time: 00:30:41 So 414 and and still building. More later. (It may be a while.) === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com

Re: main [and, likely, stable/14]: do not set vfs.zfs.bclone_enabled=1 with that zpool feature enabled because it still leads to panics

2023-09-08 Thread Mark Millard
On Sep 8, 2023, at 17:03, Mark Millard wrote: > On Sep 8, 2023, at 15:30, Martin Matuska wrote: > >> I can confirm that the patch fixes the panic caused by the provided script >> on my test systems. >> Mark, would it be possible to try poudriere on your system w

Re: main [and, likely, stable/14]: do not set vfs.zfs.bclone_enabled=1 with that zpool feature enabled because it still leads to panics

2023-09-08 Thread Mark Millard
On Sep 8, 2023, at 18:19, Mark Millard wrote: > On Sep 8, 2023, at 17:03, Mark Millard wrote: > >> On Sep 8, 2023, at 15:30, Martin Matuska wrote: >> >>> I can confirm that the patch fixes the panic caused by the provided script >>> on my test systems. &

Re: main [and, likely, stable/14]: do not set vfs.zfs.bclone_enabled=1 with that zpool feature enabled because it still leads to panics

2023-09-09 Thread Mark Millard
On Sep 8, 2023, at 21:54, Mark Millard wrote: > On Sep 8, 2023, at 18:19, Mark Millard wrote: > >> On Sep 8, 2023, at 17:03, Mark Millard wrote: >> >>> On Sep 8, 2023, at 15:30, Martin Matuska wrote: >>> >>>> I can confirm that the pat

Looks like the kyua zfs tests likely are not used on aarch64 or other contexts with unsigned char

2023-09-10 Thread Mark Millard
lack of inspected testing on aarch64, powerpc64, powerpc64le, armv7, powerpc, and powerpcspe. That, in turn, suggests that kyua test inspection for the likes of aarch64 is not historically a part of the release process for openzfs or for operating systems that include openzfs. === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com

Re: Looks like the kyua zfs tests likely are not used on aarch64 or other contexts with unsigned char

2023-09-10 Thread Mark Millard
On Sep 10, 2023, at 05:58, Mike Karels wrote: > On 10 Sep 2023, at 2:31, Mark Millard wrote: > >> kyua tests that use the: >> >> /usr/tests/sys/cddl/zfs/bin/mkfile >> >> program like so (for example): >> >> mkfile 500M /testpool.1861/bigf

Re: Looks like the kyua zfs tests likely are not used on aarch64 or other contexts with unsigned char

2023-09-10 Thread Mark Millard
On Sep 10, 2023, at 00:31, Mark Millard wrote: > kyua tests that use the: > > /usr/tests/sys/cddl/zfs/bin/mkfile > > program like so (for example): > > mkfile 500M /testpool.1861/bigfile.0 > > (which should be valid) end up with mkfile > instead reporting

Re: Looks like the kyua zfs tests likely are not used on aarch64 or other contexts with unsigned char

2023-09-10 Thread Mark Millard
On Sep 10, 2023, at 11:21, Warner Losh wrote: > On Sun, Sep 10, 2023, 11:10 AM Mark Millard wrote: >> On Sep 10, 2023, at 00:31, Mark Millard wrote: >> >> > kyua tests that use the: >> > >> > /usr/tests/sys/cddl/zfs/bin/mkfile >> > >>

Re: Looks like the kyua zfs tests likely are not used on aarch64 or other contexts with unsigned char

2023-09-11 Thread Mark Millard
On Sep 10, 2023, at 23:57, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: > Mark Millard writes: >> I'm not aware of there being other documentation for what >> is appropriate for setting up such for kyua runs. > > https://github.com/freebsd/freebsd-ci/blob/master/scripts/build/build-

Re: Looks like the kyua zfs tests likely are not used on aarch64 or other contexts with unsigned char

2023-09-11 Thread Mark Millard
On Sep 11, 2023, at 00:03, Mark Millard wrote: > On Sep 10, 2023, at 23:57, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: > >> Mark Millard writes: >>> I'm not aware of there being other documentation for what >>> is appropriate for setting up such for kyua runs. >>

sys/net/if_lagg_test:status_stress can lead to use-after-free in main (both before and after stable/14 was created), at least on aarch64

2023-09-13 Thread Mark Millard
reported vs. what code involved using the value. I will say that I've not managed to produce the crash with 14.0-BETA1. But I have produced the crash in my personal non-debug kernel builds and with the main snapshots dd'd to media and booted and used. === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com

FYI: RPi4B via ACPI style boot suggests "armv8crypto0: CPU lacks AES instructions" can lead to a hung up boot sequence in 14.0-BETA2

2023-09-21 Thread Mark Millard
See: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-arm/2023-September/003071.html for details. (It is not my activity.) === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com

Re: How to Boot FreeBSD Using pftf/RPi4 UEFI (I got: "panic: ram_attach: resource 5 failed to attach" from FreeBSD-14.0-BETA3)

2023-09-22 Thread Mark Millard
[Mitchell H.: I think this has exposed a possibly general issue not specific to RPi*'s, despite the UEFI/ACPI booting of RPi*'s not being officially supported. See the "BOOT -V RELATED MATERIAL" section towards the end, skipping the earlier explorations.] On Sep 22, 2023, at

RE: nvd->nda switch and blocksize changes for ZFS

2023-09-23 Thread Mark Millard
e from 1.500 to 3.000 P.E.C. depending on NAND binning END QUOTE That "A Dual-plane Die with 2 sub-planes with 8 KiB pages", for a total of 16 KB, does suggest to me that the new messages have a chance of being correct about there being a tradeoff. (But I'm no expert in the area.) === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com

15 & 14: ram_attach vs. its using regions_to_avail vs. "bus_alloc_resource" can lead to: panic("ram_attach: resource %d failed to attach", rid)

2023-09-30 Thread Mark Millard
his that looks inherently RPi* specific for possibly ending up with an analogous panic. So I expect the example is sufficient context to identify a problem is present, despite EDK2 use not being normal for RPi4B's and the like as far as FreeBSD is concerned. === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com

RE: Base libc++ missing symbol

2023-10-02 Thread Mark Millard
; freebsd-version -kru > 13.2-STABLE > 13.2-STABLE > 13.2-STABLE > > clang --version > FreeBSD clang version 16.0.6 > (https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project.git > llvmorg-16.0.6-0-g7cbf1a259152) Target: x86_64-unknown-freebsd13.2 > Thread model: posix > InstalledDir: /usr/bin === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com

Re: Base libc++ missing symbol

2023-10-02 Thread Mark Millard
On Oct 2, 2023, at 15:56, Mark Millard wrote: > Joel Bodenmann wrote on > Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2023 20:00:29 UTC : > >> It seems like I finally managed to hose a FreeBSD system. >> The machine in question is my workstation at home. It has been running >> stable/13 with

Re: Base libc++ missing symbol

2023-10-08 Thread Mark Millard
ies. There was no problem for my testing of monotonic_buffer_resource.cpp via the recent official snapshot build of stable/13 . I've not tried to test Qt5 or Qt6, sticking with the simpler/smaller context that you also report as failing in the odd context. I suggest avoiding Qt5/Qt6 testing until you have a context with the monotonic_buffer_resource.cpp test working. === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com

RE: git: d2025992ab68 - releng/14.0 - release: update releng/14.0 from BETA to RC

2023-10-12 Thread Mark Millard
on fix, this time involving TRIMs vs. metaslab allocations. === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com

RE: freebsd-update 12.3 to 14.0RC1 takes 12-24 hours (block cloning regression)

2023-10-17 Thread Mark Millard
sy to identify in history or test now.) Depending on the results, my next question might have been: "What happened for block cloning being disabled now to make it worse than before block cloning existed?" > He suggested a workaround of 'sysctl > vfs.zfs.dmu_offset_next_sync=0' but we should probably sort this out > for 14.0-RELEASE. === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com

FYI: 13.2-STABLE stable/13-n256634-c4dfacd0b3c3 snapshot's send mail notices

2023-10-29 Thread Mark Millard
nt is just temporary for that purpose. === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com

Is 14.0 to released based on 0 for sysctl vfs.zfs.bclone_enabled ?

2023-11-03 Thread Mark Millard
bclone_enabled=1. END QUOTE Just curiousity on my part about the default completeness of openzfs-2.2 support, not an objection either way. === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com

Re: Is 14.0 to released based on 0 for sysctl vfs.zfs.bclone_enabled ?

2023-11-04 Thread Mark Millard
On Nov 4, 2023, at 04:38, Mike Karels wrote: > On 4 Nov 2023, at 4:01, Ronald Klop wrote: > >> On 11/4/23 02:39, Mark Millard wrote: >>> It looks to me like releng/14.0 (as of 14.0-RC4) still has: >>> >>> int zfs_bclone_enabled; >>> SYSCTL_INT(_

Re: Is 14.0 to released based on 0 for sysctl vfs.zfs.bclone_enabled ?

2023-11-05 Thread Mark Millard
re around December 11, 2023. > > As of today I personally use block cloning on all my systems. > > mm > > On 04/11/2023 13:35, Mark Millard wrote: >> On Nov 4, 2023, at 04:38, Mike Karels wrote: >> >>> On 4 Nov 2023, at 4:01, Ronald Klop wrote: >>>

RELENG_14 [process] was killed: failed to reclaim memory

2023-11-14 Thread Mark Millard
, just a figure that has proved useful in various contexts. Notes: "failed to reclaim memory" can happen even with swap space enabled but no swap in use: sufficiently active pages are just not paged out to swap space. There are some other parameters of possible use for some other modern &qu

Re: RELENG_14 [process] was killed: failed to reclaim memory

2023-11-15 Thread Mark Millard
On Nov 15, 2023, at 08:58, mike tancsa wrote: > On 11/14/2023 8:25 PM, Mark Millard wrote: >> mike tancsa wrote on >> Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2023 13:44:22 UTC : >> >>> While testing some new hardware on a recent RELENG_14 image (from Nov >>> 10th), I noticed s

Is releng/13.2 deliberately missing: #15395 1ca531971 Zpool can start allocating from metaslab before TRIMs have completed

2023-12-06 Thread Mark Millard
to have been commited into releng/13.2 . Was this deliberate? By contrast, the other 2.1.14 notable upstream request merge commited into stable/13: QUOTE #15571 77b0c6f04 dnode_is_dirty: check dnode and its data for dirtiness END QUOTE was also committed into releng/13.2 . === Mark Millard

aarch64 and armv6 vs. armv7 support: armv6 is not supported, despite what "man arch" reports

2023-12-06 Thread Mark Millard
ternatives did not work. I see that I forgot various quote (") symbols. This note was prompted by: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hackers/2023-December/002728.html that mentions "the list of valid MACHINE_ARCH" that reminded me of this old issue. === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com

Re: aarch64 and armv6 vs. armv7 support: armv6 is not supported, despite what "man arch" reports

2023-12-07 Thread Mark Millard
On Dec 7, 2023, at 01:19, Dimitry Andric wrote: > On 7 Dec 2023, at 05:31, Mark Millard wrote: >> >> man arch reports: >> >> QUOTE >>Some machines support more than one FreeBSD ABI. Typically these are >>64-bit machines, where the

Re: 15 & 14: ram_attach vs. its using regions_to_avail vs. "bus_alloc_resource" can lead to: panic("ram_attach: resource %d failed to attach", rid)

2024-01-12 Thread Mark Millard
On Jan 12, 2024, at 09:57, Doug Rabson wrote: > On Sat, 30 Sept 2023 at 08:47, Mark Millard wrote: > ram_attach is based on regions_to_avail but that is a problem for > its later bus_alloc_resource use --and that can lead to: > > panic("ram_attach: resource %d fa

RE: Should changes in src/usr.sbin/bhyve/ trigger an llvm rebuild?

2024-01-28 Thread Mark Millard
some sources make buildworld For that the installworld may be the larger change compared to the source updates as far as contributions to rebuild activity go. This sort of thing is likely what you had happen. === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com

Re: Should changes in src/usr.sbin/bhyve/ trigger an llvm rebuild?

2024-01-28 Thread Mark Millard
On Jan 28, 2024, at 07:46, David Wolfskill wrote: > On Sun, Jan 28, 2024 at 07:30:53AM -0800, Mark Millard wrote: >> ... >> The following two sequences are very different: >> >> make buildworld >> make buildworld >> >> vs. >> >>

Re: Should changes in src/usr.sbin/bhyve/ trigger an llvm rebuild?

2024-01-28 Thread Mark Millard
[Note: your email is rejecting my E-mail: 554: 5.7.1 ] On Jan 28, 2024, at 14:06, David Wolfskill wrote: > On Sun, Jan 28, 2024 at 10:20:30AM -0800, Mark Millard wrote: >> ... >>> That said, one of the machines in question is my local "build machine" -- >>>

Re: Should changes in src/usr.sbin/bhyve/ trigger an llvm rebuild?

2024-01-28 Thread Mark Millard
On Jan 28, 2024, at 14:34, Mark Millard wrote: > [Note: your email is rejecting my E-mail: > 554: 5.7.1 ] > > On Jan 28, 2024, at 14:06, David Wolfskill wrote: > >> On Sun, Jan 28, 2024 at 10:20:30AM -0800, Mark Millard wrote: >>> ... >>>> That s

Re: Should changes in src/usr.sbin/bhyve/ trigger an llvm rebuild?

2024-01-28 Thread Mark Millard
On Jan 28, 2024, at 16:05, David Wolfskill wrote: > On Sun, Jan 28, 2024 at 03:00:59PM -0800, Mark Millard wrote: >> ... >> To be clear, referencing details of your context: >> >> When you had the stable/14 machines at 1c090bf880bf: >> >> A) You built

Re: Should changes in src/usr.sbin/bhyve/ trigger an llvm rebuild?

2024-01-28 Thread Mark Millard
-48.catwhisker.org 14.0-STABLE FreeBSD 14.0-STABLE #41 stable/14-n266554-2ee407b6068a: Sun Jan 28 23:26:10 UTC 2024 r...@g1-48.catwhisker.org:/common/S1/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/sys/CANARY amd64 1400506 1400506 Yep, still 2ee407b6068a. ~/Downloads/build_typescript.txt:243294: >>> Removing old libraries Overall this sequence fits what I expect. The above wording is more detailed than my earlier quick summaries. === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com

Re: Should changes in src/usr.sbin/bhyve/ trigger an llvm rebuild?

2024-01-29 Thread Mark Millard
On Jan 29, 2024, at 01:50, Alexander Leidinger wrote: > Am 2024-01-29 00:00, schrieb Mark Millard: > >> I would have to see make -dM output from (D) to >> find the specific timing relationships that lead >> to that. There is way to much to analyze the >> specific

Re: 13-STABLE high idprio load gives poor responsiveness and excessive CPU time per task

2024-02-26 Thread Mark Millard
ledge if you are to explore tuning ZFS. I've no evidence that the specific setting would be helpful. There has been a effort to deal with arc_prune problems/overhead. See: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=275594 === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com

Re: 13-STABLE high idprio load gives poor responsiveness and excessive CPU time per task

2024-02-29 Thread Mark Millard
ith this). The kernel has multiple, distinct OOM messages. Which type are you seeing? : "failed to reclaim memory" "a thread waited too long to allocate a page" "swblk or swpctrie zone exhausted" "unknown OOM reason %d" Also, but only for boot verbose: &q

Re: 13-STABLE high idprio load gives poor responsiveness and excessive CPU time per task

2024-02-29 Thread Mark Millard
[I grabbed locally modify text for one of those messages.] On Feb 29, 2024, at 08:02, Mark Millard wrote: > Peter 'PMc' Much wrote on > Date: Thu, 29 Feb 2024 13:40:05 UTC : > >> On 2024-02-27, Edward Sanford Sutton, III wrote: >>> More recently looked

Re: 13-STABLE high idprio load gives poor responsiveness and excessive CPU time per task

2024-02-29 Thread Mark Millard
On Feb 29, 2024, at 08:21, Peter wrote: > On Thu, Feb 29, 2024 at 08:02:42AM -0800, Mark Millard wrote: > ! Peter 'PMc' Much wrote on > ! Date: Thu, 29 Feb 2024 13:40:05 UTC : > ! > ! > There is an updated patch in the PR 275594 (5 pieces), that works for > ! &

Re: 13-STABLE high idprio load gives poor responsiveness and excessive CPU time per task

2024-02-29 Thread Mark Millard
On Feb 29, 2024, at 09:40, Mark Millard wrote: > On Feb 29, 2024, at 08:21, Peter wrote: > >> On Thu, Feb 29, 2024 at 08:02:42AM -0800, Mark Millard wrote: >> ! Peter 'PMc' Much wrote on >> ! Date: Thu, 29 Feb 2024 13:40:05 UTC : >> ! >> ! &

RE: FreeBSD 14-0 file swapping broken.

2024-06-09 Thread Mark Millard
Summary consequence: I recommend only using swap partitions, not swap files. Yes, I have suffered deadlocks from attempted swap file use, with just UFS over umass (USB SSD) being what held the the swap file in question. === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com

RE: New FreeBSD snapshots available: stable/14 (20240606 e77813f7e4a3) [ bad stable/14 info for 21 Jun 2024, empty snapshots/ISO-IMAGES/14.1/ ]

2024-06-28 Thread Mark Millard
Also: http://ftp3.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/ISO-IMAGES/14.1/ is empty. This prevents me from suggesting a test if a bug report is reproducible from an official stable/14 snapshot instead of just from someone's personal build of stable/14 (for a RPi3B failure context). === Mark Mi

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