Why is freebsd-update telling me 13.0 is EOL? 13.1 isn't visibly even in beta.

2022-01-30 Thread George Michaelson
I don't understand this response to FreeBSD-update: Sure. I can read. I know what the words literally mean. But, 2 months notice of retirement/EOL for a release when FreeBSD13.1 is not out? This doesn't make sense. 13.1 is due April 13. Thats 2 and a half months off, and I've seen nothing to sugge

Re: Why is freebsd-update telling me 13.0 is EOL? 13.1 isn't visibly even in beta.

2022-01-30 Thread George Michaelson
> Hi, > > The freebsd-update metadata contains an EoL date that is (presumably) > solely for displaying this message. Right now, we don't know an exact > EoL date of most minor releases until the next minor release schedule > is published, so a projected EoL date is included and updated once the >

CAM timeouts on boot (13.0-p8, Dell R730xd, mrsas controller)

2022-03-31 Thread George Michaelson
I upgraded 12.2 to 13.0-p8 and hit a delay with SCSI drive initialisation, it loops for a timeout over the "Waiting for CAM" message, then proceeds. This interferes with the ZFS initialisation and the non-root zpool are not imported. I intruded a /usr/local/etc/rc.d script PROCEED: var REQUIRE:

12.1 bootblocks the last known good choice for older Dell h.w

2022-03-31 Thread George Michaelson
a Dell (not the one with the cam problem I posted about as well today) refuses to get. beyond BIOS device detection on any bootblocks after 12.1. I've tried every .iso 12.2 through to FreeBSD-Current snapshots, and they all display the same problem hanging on the bootable drive detect phase. I don

Re: CAM timeouts on boot (13.0-p8, Dell R730xd, mrsas controller)

2022-03-31 Thread George Michaelson
Thanks for the cluestick. I don't disagree with anything you said btw. Here's the dmesg. (attachment, can in-line if thats better) ---<>--- Copyright (c) 1992-2021 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University o

Re: CAM timeouts on boot (13.0-p8, Dell R730xd, mrsas controller)

2022-03-31 Thread George Michaelson
Not that this can't be PBCAK, but I have tried not to be the root cause here. It happened across my upgrade, and the CAM timeout intruded in the same window. G On Fri, Apr 1, 2022 at 1:31 PM George Michaelson wrote: > > Thanks for the cluestick. I don't disagree with anything you

Re: CAM timeouts on boot (13.0-p8, Dell R730xd, mrsas controller)

2022-03-31 Thread George Michaelson
here's the layout from zpool.cache gronggrong # zdb -C -U /boot/zfs/zpool.cache tank: version: 5000 name: 'tank' state: 0 txg: 5094520 pool_guid: 14778862554646682675 errata: 0 hostid: 2826039973 hostname: 'gronggrong.rand.apnic.net' com.delphix:has_per_vdev_zap

Where to get clue about UEFI and zfs boot clue?

2024-03-15 Thread George Michaelson
I feel in a bit of a corner case window regarding UEFI boot configuration, multiple disks, and zfs. Ignorance is not bliss. Probably it's UEFI clue more than FreeBSD clue I lack, but the target OS is a zfs backed FreeBSD. Which ML is the best place to ask? Here? G

Re: Where to get clue about UEFI and zfs boot clue?

2024-03-15 Thread George Michaelson
> > > > On Fri, Mar 15, 2024, 3:47 PM George Michaelson wrote: >> >> I feel in a bit of a corner case window regarding UEFI boot configuration, >> multiple disks, and zfs. Ignorance is not bliss. >> >> Probably it's UEFI clue more than FreeBSD clue I

Re: Where to get clue about UEFI and zfs boot clue?

2024-03-16 Thread George Michaelson
On Sat, 16 Mar 2024, 3:46 pm Warner Losh, wrote: > When you boot FreeBSD, what does efibootmgr -v say? > > Warner [root@truenas /]# efibootmgr -v Boot to FW : false BootCurrent: 000b Timeout : 1 seconds BootOrder : 0002, 0005, , 000B, 000C, 000D, 000E Boot0002* debian HD(1,GPT,1354d1d3-41a4-

Re: Where to get clue about UEFI and zfs boot clue?

2024-03-16 Thread George Michaelson
Thanks Warner, efibootmgr -o 000b,... fixed things. So simple! G On Sat, 16 Mar 2024, 7:39 pm George Michaelson, wrote: > On Sat, 16 Mar 2024, 3:46 pm Warner Losh, wrote: > > When you boot FreeBSD, what does efibootmgr -v say? > > > > Warner > > [root@truenas /]#

Re: PKGBASE Removes FreeBSD Base System Feature

2025-08-03 Thread George Michaelson
I think the .tgz blobs used by NetBSD are a good example of the biggest blobbyness you want. rescue and base are the minimal safe set. games X11, debug and documentation are long standing extras. I also agree with you Werner, that if you have a SAT capable dependency solver, the finer you go the m

Re: PKGBASE Removes FreeBSD Base System Feature

2025-07-29 Thread George Michaelson
Isn't this precisely what locked packages are designed to prevent? Outside of an upgrade tool, I would think locking "base" packages was .. sensible? -G > >

Re: PKGBASE Removes FreeBSD Base System Feature

2025-07-29 Thread George Michaelson
Wed, Jul 30, 2025 at 11:31 AM Edward Sanford Sutton, III < mirror...@hotmail.com> wrote: > On 7/29/25 18:15, George Michaelson wrote: > > Isn't this precisely what locked packages are designed to prevent? > >I thought locking packages was intended to stop any modification