Re: [HEADS-UP] Quick update to 14.0-RELEASE schedule

2023-11-17 Thread Jamie Landeg-Jones
Glen Barber wrote: > No. It merely suggests the release is not officially official yet. Ok. Thanks for the clarification. Jamie.

Re: [HEADS-UP] Quick update to 14.0-RELEASE schedule

2023-11-17 Thread Olivier Certner
Hi Glen, > I also agree we cannot prevent people from downloading the images, > installers, whatever before the announcement. That is the lovely race > condition with which we have to live at the moment. Yes, and given that, I don't think you did anything wrong. It seems that the race is the sa

Re: [HEADS-UP] Quick update to 14.0-RELEASE schedule

2023-11-16 Thread Dewayne Geraghty
Congratulations to the FreeBSD Release Engineering (RE) Team for the tremendous work that is going on to provide a no (known) issue 14.0 release. Glen, as the RE's media interface to the world, you continue to amaze in your ability to maintain transparency, clarity and honesty in your timely statu

Re: [HEADS-UP] Quick update to 14.0-RELEASE schedule

2023-11-16 Thread Glen Barber
On Thu, Nov 16, 2023 at 09:22:52PM +, Jamie Landeg-Jones wrote: > > Ok. I do not know what exactly is your point, but releases are never > > official until there is a PGP-signed email sent. The email is intended > > for the general public of consumers of official releases, not "yeah, > > but"

Re: [HEADS-UP] Quick update to 14.0-RELEASE schedule

2023-11-16 Thread Marek Zarychta
W dniu 16.11.2023 o 12:19, The Doctor pisze: On Thu, Nov 16, 2023 at 12:07:36AM -0500, Glen Barber wrote: And if there is a reason to reissue a release, the update will reflect such. So to answer your latter question, yes. Unless it needs to be replaced. Glen Sent from my phone. Please excuse

Re: [HEADS-UP] Quick update to 14.0-RELEASE schedule

2023-11-16 Thread Jamie Landeg-Jones
> Ok. I do not know what exactly is your point, but releases are never > official until there is a PGP-signed email sent. The email is intended > for the general public of consumers of official releases, not "yeah, > but"s. Foe a recent new build, I just went to the ftp site to grab the latest r

Re: [HEADS-UP] Quick update to 14.0-RELEASE schedule

2023-11-15 Thread Glen Barber
And if there is a reason to reissue a release, the update will reflect such. So to answer your latter question, yes. Unless it needs to be replaced. Glen Sent from my phone. Please excuse my brevity and/or typos. > On Nov 15, 2023, at 11:38 PM, The Doctor wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 16, 2023 at 1

Re: [HEADS-UP] Quick update to 14.0-RELEASE schedule

2023-11-15 Thread Glen Barber
Thank you for that. Glen Sent from my phone. Please excuse my brevity and/or typos. > On Nov 15, 2023, at 11:17 PM, Rich Reynolds wrote: > > On 11/15/23 20:19, Pete Wright wrote: >>> On 11/15/23 16:30, Glen Barber wrote: >>> The alternative would be to say nothing at all. >>> >>> Either way,

Re: [HEADS-UP] Quick update to 14.0-RELEASE schedule

2023-11-15 Thread Rich Reynolds
On 11/15/23 20:19, Pete Wright wrote: On 11/15/23 16:30, Glen Barber wrote: The alternative would be to say nothing at all. Either way, it is a productivity, communication drain. It is a lose-lose situation no matter how one looks at it given the above context. We either get chastised for b

Re: [HEADS-UP] Quick update to 14.0-RELEASE schedule

2023-11-15 Thread Glen Barber
On Wed, Nov 15, 2023 at 07:19:39PM -0800, Pete Wright wrote: > > > On 11/15/23 16:30, Glen Barber wrote: > > The alternative would be to say nothing at all. > > > > Either way, it is a productivity, communication drain. It is > > a lose-lose situation no matter how one looks at it given the abo

Re: [HEADS-UP] Quick update to 14.0-RELEASE schedule

2023-11-15 Thread Pete Wright
On 11/15/23 16:30, Glen Barber wrote: The alternative would be to say nothing at all. Either way, it is a productivity, communication drain. It is a lose-lose situation no matter how one looks at it given the above context. We either get chastised for being "too open" into insights delaying

Re: [HEADS-UP] Quick update to 14.0-RELEASE schedule

2023-11-15 Thread Glen Barber
On Wed, Nov 15, 2023 at 08:39:39AM -0800, John Baldwin wrote: > On 11/14/23 8:52 PM, Glen Barber wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 08:10:23PM -0700, The Doctor wrote: > > > On Wed, Nov 15, 2023 at 02:27:01AM +, Glen Barber wrote: > > > > On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 05:15:48PM -0700, The Doctor wro

Re: [HEADS-UP] Quick update to 14.0-RELEASE schedule

2023-11-15 Thread John Baldwin
On 11/14/23 8:52 PM, Glen Barber wrote: On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 08:10:23PM -0700, The Doctor wrote: On Wed, Nov 15, 2023 at 02:27:01AM +, Glen Barber wrote: On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 05:15:48PM -0700, The Doctor wrote: On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 08:36:54PM +, Glen Barber wrote: We are stil

Re: [HEADS-UP] Quick update to 14.0-RELEASE schedule

2023-11-15 Thread Glen Barber
Well, today is your yesterday, so we might not be ready for another more tomorrows your time, yesterdays, my time. Or something. Glen Sent from my phone. Please excuse my brevity and/or typos. > On Nov 15, 2023, at 2:39 AM, matti k wrote: > > On Wed, 15 Nov 2023 04:52:31 + > Glen Barber

Re: [HEADS-UP] Quick update to 14.0-RELEASE schedule

2023-11-14 Thread matti k
On Wed, 15 Nov 2023 04:52:31 + Glen Barber wrote: > > > Ok. I do not know what exactly is your point, but releases are > > > never official until there is a PGP-signed email sent. The email > > > is intended for the general public of consumers of official > > > releases, not "yeah, but"s. >

Re: [HEADS-UP] Quick update to 14.0-RELEASE schedule

2023-11-14 Thread Graham Perrin
On Tue, 14 Nov 2023 at 23:05, Glen Barber wrote: > We are still waiting for a few (non-critical) things to complete before > the announcement of 14.0-RELEASE will be ready. > > … Thanks! I'm encouraging people to wait, because the presence of the 'installation information' page will be quite cr

Re: [HEADS-UP] Quick update to 14.0-RELEASE schedule

2023-11-14 Thread Glen Barber
On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 08:10:23PM -0700, The Doctor wrote: > On Wed, Nov 15, 2023 at 02:27:01AM +, Glen Barber wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 05:15:48PM -0700, The Doctor wrote: > > > On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 08:36:54PM +, Glen Barber wrote: > > > > We are still waiting for a few (non-c

Re: [HEADS-UP] Quick update to 14.0-RELEASE schedule

2023-11-14 Thread Glen Barber
On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 05:15:48PM -0700, The Doctor wrote: > On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 08:36:54PM +, Glen Barber wrote: > > We are still waiting for a few (non-critical) things to complete before > > the announcement of 14.0-RELEASE will be ready. > > > > It should only be another day or so bef