Re: [spring] [**EXTERNAL**] The SPRING WG has placed draft-schmutzer-spring-cs-sr-policy in state "Candidate for WG Adoption"

2023-05-24 Thread Daniele Ceccarelli
Hi Joel, the phrase "circuit style" attracted my attention and reviewed the draft. I think segment routing should provide good support for proper traffic engineering (guaranteed bandwidth, recovery, path constraints etc.) hence i believe the draft should be adopted. Cheers, Daniele On Fri, May 1

Re: [spring] [**EXTERNAL**] The SPRING WG has placed draft-schmutzer-spring-cs-sr-policy in state "Candidate for WG Adoption"

2023-05-24 Thread Robert Raszuk
Hi Daniele, Could you kindly elaborate on what level of "guaranteed bandwidth" you expect SR to provide ? Especially in the context of _circuit_ emulation ? And even if you build the mechanism to account for bandwidth on a per class of service basis and use controller to push your policies everyw

Re: [spring] [**EXTERNAL**] The SPRING WG has placed draft-schmutzer-spring-cs-sr-policy in state "Candidate for WG Adoption"

2023-05-24 Thread Daniele Ceccarelli
Hi Robert, i had in mind something with the same capabilities/characteristics of RSVP-TE. The same problem has been addressed for decades by operators using LDP for 90% of the traffic and RSVP-TE just for a small portion of the traffic (e.g. phone call back in the days). With mix of admission cont

Re: [spring] FW: New Version Notification for draft-cheng-spring-distribute-srv6-locator-by-dhcp-00.txt

2023-05-24 Thread liu.aihua
Hi Weiqiang, This draft proposed an interesting solution for dynamic SRv6 deployment, especially with centralized management of SRv6 locator prefix. As the draft descripted, it is valuable to simplify the CPEs to join in the SRv6 domain. I wonder whether if this could be done by current exist

Re: [spring] [**EXTERNAL**] The SPRING WG has placed draft-schmutzer-spring-cs-sr-policy in state "Candidate for WG Adoption"

2023-05-24 Thread Robert Raszuk
> If you want to have a network slice for remote surgery probably you > need something more reliable, but otherwise it's a good enough solution. Spot on ! And that is my main point. We are reusing notion of completely different technology like SONET/SDH containers. And that is to create only a p

Re: [spring] [**EXTERNAL**] The SPRING WG has placed draft-schmutzer-spring-cs-sr-policy in state "Candidate for WG Adoption"

2023-05-24 Thread Daniele Ceccarelli
Hi Robert, i wouldn't just focus on the guaranteed bandwidth (which in any case has been working with RSVP-TE and this solution will provide something as good as that), but also on the other key requirements that SR-CS can meet (like correctly identified in the draft): - Predictable E2E TE paths w

Re: [spring] [**EXTERNAL**] The SPRING WG has placed draft-schmutzer-spring-cs-sr-policy in state "Candidate for WG Adoption"

2023-05-24 Thread Robert Raszuk
> why intense admission control would be a problem in the network ? Imagine you are Tier 1 and not selling access, but doing basic peering with other Tier 1s. What admission control do you configure there ? Equal to your ingress bw ? That's of no use as physics is your ceiling already. Lower th

Re: [spring] [**EXTERNAL**] The SPRING WG has placed draft-schmutzer-spring-cs-sr-policy in state "Candidate for WG Adoption"

2023-05-24 Thread Joel Halpern
Speaking only as an individual. I am unable to follow your argument here. If you are a service provider (any tier, any kind) either you are offering some of your customers circuit-like services, or you aren't.  If you aren't, then this draft does nothing for you, and does you no harm, because

Re: [spring] [**EXTERNAL**] The SPRING WG has placed draft-schmutzer-spring-cs-sr-policy in state "Candidate for WG Adoption"

2023-05-24 Thread Robert Raszuk
Hi Joel, > Your argument, retained below, seems to assume that you simply offer > the service to all customers for all traffic. Nope, not at all. My point is that to offer the service in reality of operational networks as described in the draft is hard if not impossible. What you can offer is t

Re: [spring] FW: New Version Notification for draft-cheng-spring-distribute-srv6-locator-by-dhcp-00.txt

2023-05-24 Thread Weiqiang Cheng
Hi Aihua, Thanks for your comments. The allocation process of SRv6 Locator in this draft follows the DHCPv6 prefix allocation process. Compared to IPv6 prefix allocation process, the allocation process of SRv6 prefix has some new requirements. For example, while assigning the Locator prefi