Re: [spring] Questions about REPLACEB6 of draft-salih-spring-srv6-inter-domain-sids

2021-11-09 Thread Darren Dukes (ddukes)
Hi Peng, your question is part of why I asked for some descriptions of how an SR Source chooses a SID of one of these behaviors vs another. I think we’ll know more once we see that. Darren On 2021-11-08, 10:32 PM, "spring" wrote: Hi authors, Thanks for bringing SRv6 SID swaping idea in the

Re: [spring] A question for draft-fz-spring-srv6-alt-mark

2021-11-09 Thread Joel M. Halpern
Let me try phrasing the question about the SRH TLV in a different way. And this is as a participant, not as co-chair. Assumptions as I understand them: 1) The 6man draft requires support of both the HbH and DoH cases 2) Any node supporting the SRH altMarking can be assumed to also support the 6m

Re: [spring] A question for draft-fz-spring-srv6-alt-mark

2021-11-09 Thread Tianran Zhou
Assumption 2 is not correct. We assume there are nodes support srh but not hbh and doh. Best, Tianran Sent from WeLink 发件人: Joel M. Halpernmailto:j...@joelhalpern.com>> 收件人: Giuseppe Fioccolamailto:giuseppe.fiocc...@huawei.com>> 抄送: draft-fz-spring-srv6-alt-m

Re: [spring] A question for draft-fz-spring-srv6-alt-mark

2021-11-09 Thread Tom Herbert
On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 7:31 AM Joel M. Halpern wrote: > > Let me try phrasing the question about the SRH TLV in a different way. > And this is as a participant, not as co-chair. > Assumptions as I understand them: > > 1) The 6man draft requires support of both the HbH and DoH cases > 2) Any node s

Re: [spring] A question for draft-fz-spring-srv6-alt-mark

2021-11-09 Thread Greg Mirsky
Hi Tianran, such a combination seems very strange to me. A vendor decides to support the AltMarking in SRv6 (SRH TLV) but not in IPv6? Possible but, IMHO, unlikely decision. Regards, Greg On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 7:39 AM Tianran Zhou wrote: > > Assumption 2 is not correct. We assume there are nod

Re: [spring] A question for draft-fz-spring-srv6-alt-mark

2021-11-09 Thread Tianran Zhou
I am not saying alt mk, but generic case. I know major chip vendors can support srh but not support hbh nor doh. That’s why hbh packets easily to be dropped. This is consensus in my opinion. Sent from WeLink 发件人: Greg Mirskymailto:gregimir...@gmail.com>> 收件人: T

Re: [spring] Questions about REPLACEB6 of draft-salih-spring-srv6-inter-domain-sids

2021-11-09 Thread Shraddha Hegde
Hi Peng, The choice to advertise REPLACE or REPLACEB6 is not based on the sid-list on which it is resolving. We will update the draft with details and examples for all the SIDs to clarify. You can review the updated draft and we can discuss if you have further questions. Rgds Shraddha Junipe

Re: [spring] A question for draft-fz-spring-srv6-alt-mark

2021-11-09 Thread Tianran Zhou
Hi Tom, All you arguments are correct. If a network is built all by supportive devices (support HbH, DoH), there is no doubt that 6man-alt-mk is a sound solution. However, existing network may consist many non-supportive devices. These devices may 1. support SRH, but not HbH and DoH. This is t

Re: [spring] A question for draft-fz-spring-srv6-alt-mark

2021-11-09 Thread Joel M. Halpern
(Again, speaking as participant.) You seem to be assuming that devices (hard or soft) that support SRH will support this new TLV. It is not obvious that they will support any SRH TLVs. And if they do, they clearly will not support a not yet defined TLV. Yours, Joel On 11/9/2021 9:04 PM, T

Re: [spring] A question for draft-fz-spring-srv6-alt-mark

2021-11-09 Thread Tom Herbert
On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 6:39 PM Joel M. Halpern wrote: > > (Again, speaking as participant.) > You seem to be assuming that devices (hard or soft) that support SRH > will support this new TLV. It is not obvious that they will support any > SRH TLVs. And if they do, they clearly will not support

Re: [spring] A question for draft-fz-spring-srv6-alt-mark

2021-11-09 Thread Tianran Zhou
Hi Joel, I do not need to assume a device that support SRH will support this new TLV. We only assume the device that do not support this new TLV can ignore and bypass the packet, not to drop. I see text from RFC8754 section 2.1. " all TLVs are ignored unless local configuration indicates otherwis