Re: [spring] Question on draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming-12

2020-03-27 Thread Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril)
final endpoint (e.g., End.DX4, End.DT6) behaviors. These capabilities are > factored in by an SR Source Node (or a controller) during the SR Policy > computation. >... > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joel Halpern Direct > Sent: martes, 17 de marzo de

Re: [spring] Question on draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming-12

2020-03-27 Thread Joel M. Halpern
020 18:51 To: Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril) Cc: spring@ietf.org Subject: Re: [spring] Question on draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming-12 Given that the requirement to be able to ignore the routing header predates any of the SRv6 work, a natural reading would be that ignoring the header is som

Re: [spring] Question on draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming-12

2020-03-27 Thread Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril)
(or a controller) during the SR Policy computation. ... -Original Message- From: Joel Halpern Direct Sent: martes, 17 de marzo de 2020 18:51 To: Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril) Cc: spring@ietf.org Subject: Re: [spring] Question on draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming-12 Given th

Re: [spring] Question on draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming-12

2020-03-17 Thread Sander Steffann
Hi, >>Having said that, the text about motivating PSP reads: >> PSP allows, for example, for an egress PE to receive a packet >> with a segment in the DA of the outer header without any need to >> process the SRH. >>is a very weak and confusing explanation. Given

Re: [spring] Question on draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming-12

2020-03-17 Thread Joel Halpern Direct
draft-ietf-lsr-isis-srv6-extensions). > > Regards, > Pablo. > > -Original Message- > From: "Joel M. Halpern" > Date: Tuesday, 10 March 2020 at 19:26 > To: "Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril)" > Cc:

Re: [spring] Question on draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming-12

2020-03-17 Thread Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril)
Inline -Original Message- From: "Joel M. Halpern" Date: Monday, 16 March 2020 at 20:23 To: "Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril)" Cc: "spring@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [spring] Question on draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming-12 The changes in section

Re: [spring] Question on draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming-12

2020-03-16 Thread Joel M. Halpern
. (for SRv6, see section 4 of draft-ietf-lsr-isis-srv6-extensions). Regards, Pablo. -Original Message- From: "Joel M. Halpern" Date: Tuesday, 10 March 2020 at 19:26 To: "Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril)" Cc: "spring@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [spring] Question on

Re: [spring] Question on draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming-12

2020-03-16 Thread Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril)
t 19:26 To: "Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril)" Cc: "spring@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [spring] Question on draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming-12 Pablo, in your reply below you say that the text in 8200 is "crystal clear". It requires an interesting lens to find so

Re: [spring] Question on draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming-12

2020-03-13 Thread Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril)
pcamaril) Sent: Friday, March 13, 2020 12:10 AM To: Wang, Weibin (NSB - CN/Shanghai) ; Christian Hopps Cc: spring@ietf.org Subject: Re: [spring] Question on draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming-12 Hi Wang Weibin, What is the benefit to ignore and keep processing to get to the same end res

Re: [spring] Question on draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming-12

2020-03-12 Thread Wang, Weibin (NSB - CN/Shanghai)
subsection 4.1.1. Cheers! Wang Weibin From: Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril) Sent: Friday, March 13, 2020 12:10 AM To: Wang, Weibin (NSB - CN/Shanghai) ; Christian Hopps Cc: spring@ietf.org Subject: Re: [spring] Question on draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming-12 Hi Wang Weibin, What is

Re: [spring] Question on draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming-12

2020-03-12 Thread Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril)
nghai)" Date: Thursday, 12 March 2020 at 14:21 To: "Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril)" , Christian Hopps Cc: "spring@ietf.org" Subject: RE: [spring] Question on draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming-12 Hi Pablo and Chris: In my understanding, and avoiding the ambiguous

Re: [spring] Question on draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming-12

2020-03-12 Thread Wang, Weibin (NSB - CN/Shanghai)
: Christian Hopps Cc: spring@ietf.org Subject: Re: [spring] Question on draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming-12 Inline. This one is short. Many thanks, Pablo. -Original Message- From: Christian Hopps mailto:cho...@chopps.org>> Date: Thursday, 12 March 2020 at 13:08 To:

Re: [spring] Question on draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming-12

2020-03-12 Thread Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril)
Inline. This one is short. Many thanks, Pablo. -Original Message- From: Christian Hopps Date: Thursday, 12 March 2020 at 13:08 To: "Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril)" Cc: Christian Hopps , "spring@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [spring] Question on draft-ietf-spring-srv6-ne

Re: [spring] Question on draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming-12

2020-03-12 Thread Christian Hopps
acket). > > Many thanks, > Pablo. > > -Original Message- > From: Christian Hopps > Date: Wednesday, 11 March 2020 at 20:21 > To: "Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril)" > Cc: Christian Hopps , "spring@ietf.org" > Subject: Re: [spring] Question

Re: [spring] Question on draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming-12

2020-03-12 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
: Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril) ; Christian Hopps Cc: spring@ietf.org Subject: Re: [spring] Question on draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming-12 Pablo, Chris and all, I have not found the restriction for Binding SID not being the last SID in the SID list in RFC 8402 or RFC 8666. And I think

Re: [spring] Question on draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming-12

2020-03-12 Thread Alexander Vainshtein
To: Christian Hopps Cc: spring@ietf.org Subject: Re: [spring] Question on draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming-12 Hi Chris, The Binding SIDs have a restriction not to be the last SID in a SID list. This applies to all three Binding SID behaviors defined in draft-ietf-spring-network

Re: [spring] Question on draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming-12

2020-03-12 Thread Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril)
- From: Christian Hopps Date: Wednesday, 11 March 2020 at 20:21 To: "Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril)" Cc: Christian Hopps , "spring@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [spring] Question on draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming-12 > On Mar 11, 2020, at 2:44 PM, P

Re: [spring] Question on draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming-12

2020-03-11 Thread Christian Hopps
;t seem like a reasonable restriction. Thanks, Chris. > > Many thanks, > Pablo. > > -Original Message- > From: Christian Hopps > Date: Wednesday, 11 March 2020 at 17:08 > To: "Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril)" > Cc: Christian Hopps , "spring@ietf.org&q

Re: [spring] Question on draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming-12

2020-03-11 Thread Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril)
there's no SRH. Many thanks, Pablo. -Original Message- From: Christian Hopps Date: Wednesday, 11 March 2020 at 17:08 To: "Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril)" Cc: Christian Hopps , "spring@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [spring] Question on draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programmi

Re: [spring] Question on draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming-12

2020-03-11 Thread Christian Hopps
> Pablo. > > -Original Message- > From: Christian Hopps > Date: Wednesday, 11 March 2020 at 12:06 > To: "Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril)" > Cc: Christian Hopps , "spring@ietf.org" > Subject: Re: [spring] Question on > draft-ietf-spring-srv

Re: [spring] Question on draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming-12

2020-03-11 Thread Alexander Vainshtein
l: +972-549266302 Email: alexander.vainsht...@ecitele.com -Original Message- From: spring On Behalf Of Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril) Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 2:17 PM To: Christian Hopps Cc: spring@ietf.org Subject: Re: [spring] Question on draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-prog

Re: [spring] Question on draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming-12

2020-03-11 Thread Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril)
r, you process it as per 4.1.1 Thank you, Pablo. -Original Message- From: Christian Hopps Date: Wednesday, 11 March 2020 at 12:06 To: "Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril)" Cc: Christian Hopps , "spring@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [spring] Question on draft-ietf-spring-s

Re: [spring] Question on draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming-12

2020-03-11 Thread Christian Hopps
atch > > Section 4: >> Each FIB entry indicates the behavior associated with a SID instance >> and its parameters. > > Thank you, > Pablo. > > -Original Message- > From: Christian Hopps > Date: Tuesday, 10 March 2020 at 22:01 > To: "Pabl

Re: [spring] Question on draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming-12

2020-03-11 Thread Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril)
meters. Thank you, Pablo. -Original Message- From: Christian Hopps Date: Tuesday, 10 March 2020 at 22:01 To: "Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril)" Cc: Christian Hopps , "spring@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [spring] Question on draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming-12

Re: [spring] Question on draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming-12

2020-03-10 Thread Christian Hopps
> On Mar 10, 2020, at 2:13 PM, Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril) > wrote: > > Hi Chris, > > Thanks for going through the document. > The behaviors 4.13 (End.B6.Encaps), 4.14 (End.B6.Encaps.Red) and 4.15 > (End.BM) correspond to Binding SIDs [1]. > > As a result of 4.13 for example, the packet is e

Re: [spring] Question on draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming-12

2020-03-10 Thread Joel M. Halpern
Pablo, in your reply below you say that the text in 8200 is "crystal clear". It requires an interesting lens to find something "crystal clear" about which so many people have expressed so much disagreement. While a lawyer may claim to a judge that text in a contract is crystal clear, it is alm

Re: [spring] Question on draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming-12

2020-03-10 Thread Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril)
Hi Chris, Thanks for going through the document. The behaviors 4.13 (End.B6.Encaps), 4.14 (End.B6.Encaps.Red) and 4.15 (End.BM) correspond to Binding SIDs [1]. As a result of 4.13 for example, the packet is encapsulated with a new IPv6 header and an SRH that contains the SR policy associated to