Re: [spring] Martini Pseudowires and SR

2022-05-31 Thread UTTARO, JAMES
Alston - IETF Sent: Monday, May 30, 2022 2:22 AM To: SPRING WG Subject: [spring] Martini Pseudowires and SR Hi All, Sending this email wearing only the hat of a working group participant. One of the things that our network uses, and is used by so many networks out there, are martini based

Re: [spring] Martini Pseudowires and SR

2022-05-30 Thread Stewart Bryant
Including the PALS and MPLS WGs in the discussion. In the case of PWs, LDP runs directly between the T-PEs to provide the control plane. If it is known that the only use of LDP is to support PW, then a lightweight profile of LDP might be implemented, ignoring unused parts, but this does not nec

Re: [spring] Martini Pseudowires and SR

2022-05-30 Thread Gyan Mishra
Hi Andrew The workaround today for operators migrating to SR would migrate all unicast to SR-MPLS or SRv6 and any services using LDP signaling such as L2 VPN VPLS targeted LDP or MVPN PTA mLDP would keep LDP enabled in parallel until L2 VPNs can be migrated to EVPN BGP based signaling and mLDP mi

[spring] Martini Pseudowires and SR

2022-05-29 Thread Andrew Alston - IETF
Hi All, Sending this email wearing only the hat of a working group participant. One of the things that our network uses, and is used by so many networks out there, are martini based pseudowires (which for clarity are generally setup using what is described in RFC8077). In an SR world however,