Re: [Spice-devel] spicec and spice-gtk

2011-05-02 Thread Christophe Fergeau
On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 01:59:33PM +0200, Kai Mosebach wrote: > The question is if I could get a libspice-client-glib without gtk at all? Ah, this should be doable, but you'd need to patch configure.ac and gtk/Makefile.am for that, patches welcome :) Christophe pgplacMiE2Ta6.pgp Description: PG

Re: [Spice-devel] spicec and spice-gtk

2011-05-02 Thread Kai Mosebach
The question is if I could get a libspice-client-glib without gtk at all? On 5/2/11 1:57 PM, "Christophe Fergeau" wrote: >On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 01:48:27PM +0200, Kai Mosebach wrote: >> This is basically a good approach I think - also to use the whole spice >> client programmatically. >> What I

Re: [Spice-devel] spicec and spice-gtk

2011-05-02 Thread Christophe Fergeau
On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 01:48:27PM +0200, Kai Mosebach wrote: > This is basically a good approach I think - also to use the whole spice > client programmatically. > What I would like to see here would be a clean split between the > spice-client-glib (w/o the gtk parts) and spicy(the gtk parts) if t

Re: [Spice-devel] spicec and spice-gtk

2011-05-02 Thread Kai Mosebach
>> >>Then I recommend that we create a library/framework/API so that >> companies can use spice much easier programmatically. > >Spice-Gtk has a complete API. It allows to create complete clients >without GTK using spice-client-glib. This is basically a good approach I think - also to use the whol

Re: [Spice-devel] spicec and spice-gtk

2011-04-29 Thread Cliff Sharp
This is great - thank you On Apr 29, 2011, at 10:01 AM, Marc-André Lureau wrote: > Hi, > > - Original Message - >> There are a number of companies that interface to spicec >> programmatically. >> >> These companies right now do a fork exec or whatever to run spicec >> from within their

Re: [Spice-devel] spicec and spice-gtk

2011-04-29 Thread Marc-André Lureau
Hi, - Original Message - > There are a number of companies that interface to spicec > programmatically. > > These companies right now do a fork exec or whatever to run spicec > from within their software products. > There are a number of reasons why they do not implement the spice > proto

Re: [Spice-devel] spicec and spice-gtk

2011-04-29 Thread Cliff Sharp
Good question... Here are some recommendations -- There are a number of companies that interface to spicec programmatically. These companies right now do a fork exec or whatever to run spicec from within their software products. There are a number of reasons why they do not implement the spice

Re: [Spice-devel] spicec and spice-gtk

2011-04-29 Thread Christophe Fergeau
On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 07:22:12AM -0500, Cliff Sharp wrote: > I never said that spice-gtk is bad for me. > There are companies that need and use spicec. Once again, why do they *need* it as opposed to "they need a spice client, they don't really care if it's C, python, raw X, Qt, ..." Saying thes

Re: [Spice-devel] spicec and spice-gtk

2011-04-29 Thread Cliff Sharp
I never said that spice-gtk is bad for me. There are companies that need and use spicec. On Fri, 2011-04-29 at 14:06 +0200, Christophe Fergeau wrote: > On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 07:49:14AM -0400, Cliff Sharp wrote: > > There are companies that only use spicec that don't want to make changes > > righ

Re: [Spice-devel] spicec and spice-gtk

2011-04-29 Thread Christophe Fergeau
On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 07:49:14AM -0400, Cliff Sharp wrote: > There are companies that only use spicec that don't want to make changes > right now. Not on OSX, do they? I'm really not understanding why using spice-gtk seems to be so bad for you :( Christophe pgpByFrLpGmPB.pgp Description: PGP

Re: [Spice-devel] spicec and spice-gtk

2011-04-29 Thread Cliff Sharp
There are companies that only use spicec that don't want to make changes right now. On Fri, 2011-04-29 at 10:54 +0200, Christophe Fergeau wrote: > On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 03:57:50PM -0500, Cliff Sharp wrote: > > I have spice-gtk built and running on OSX. It has some issues but it does > > connect

Re: [Spice-devel] spicec and spice-gtk

2011-04-29 Thread Christophe Fergeau
On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 11:10:02AM +0200, Kai Mosebach wrote: > The slim barebone one :) Without all the gtk overhead... What overhead? > I think if the audio-interface was more portable it would make a pretty > good starting point for porting. > "it"? Something requiring X11 osx support isn't

Re: [Spice-devel] spicec and spice-gtk

2011-04-29 Thread Kai Mosebach
The slim barebone one :) Without all the gtk overhead... I think if the audio-interface was more portable it would make a pretty good starting point for porting. On 4/29/11 11:05 AM, "Christophe Fergeau" wrote: >On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 10:56:11AM +0200, Kai Mosebach wrote: >> I personally would

Re: [Spice-devel] spicec and spice-gtk

2011-04-29 Thread Christophe Fergeau
On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 10:56:11AM +0200, Kai Mosebach wrote: > I personally would also like to see spicec available for (Win,LX and OSX) > since its a pure cmdline client w/o any additional GTK stuff (good for own > development)... spice-gtk is to be seen as a gtk widget which you can embed in an

Re: [Spice-devel] spicec and spice-gtk

2011-04-29 Thread Kai Mosebach
I personally would also like to see spicec available for (Win,LX and OSX) since its a pure cmdline client w/o any additional GTK stuff (good for own development)... On 4/29/11 10:54 AM, "Christophe Fergeau" wrote: >On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 03:57:50PM -0500, Cliff Sharp wrote: >> I have spice-gtk

Re: [Spice-devel] spicec and spice-gtk

2011-04-29 Thread Christophe Fergeau
On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 03:57:50PM -0500, Cliff Sharp wrote: > I have spice-gtk built and running on OSX. It has some issues but it does > connect. I am in the process of testing this now. > > I am trying to build the spice cient spicec (spice-0.8.1) on OSX. What's missing in spice-gtk that make

Re: [Spice-devel] spicec and spice-gtk

2011-04-29 Thread Kai Mosebach
Do you have patches available for that? From: Attila Sukosd Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 07:20:00 +0200 To: Cliff Sharp Cc: Kai Mosebach , Subject: Re: [Spice-devel] spicec and spice-gtk PortAudio ___ Spice-devel mailing list Spice-devel

Re: [Spice-devel] spicec and spice-gtk

2011-04-28 Thread Attila Sukosd
There is only an alsa implementation for the *nix side of spicec. I've got a playback only implementation for PortAudio which is available from OSX. I haven't tried it against the latest git though... On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 10:57 PM, Cliff Sharp wrote: > I have spice-gtk built and running on

[Spice-devel] spicec and spice-gtk

2011-04-28 Thread Cliff Sharp
I have spice-gtk built and running on OSX. It has some issues but it does connect. I am in the process of testing this now. I am trying to build the spice cient spicec (spice-0.8.1) on OSX. I am having major troubles with the alsa package. It is not in MacPorts. Does anyone know if there is a OSX