Re: [Spice-devel] [PATCH] make celt to be optional

2012-06-15 Thread Ron
t's not the same as true lossless if they need to analyse the samples received - but that would be something I'd expect to have an application specific data stream all of its own if that was needed, rather than it using the generic audio support of spice. Ron ___ Spice-devel mailing list Spice-devel@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/spice-devel

Re: [Spice-devel] [PATCH] make celt to be optional

2012-06-14 Thread Ron
t you compose your own 'mode' and that mode essentially defines the bitstream. Different modes make different bitstreams so you need to decode with the same mode you encoded with. For opus, the emphasis on "everything should be interoperable" came to the fore,

Re: [Spice-devel] [PATCH] make celt to be optional

2012-06-13 Thread Ron
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 01:49:59PM +0200, Gerd Hoffmann wrote: > Hi, > > >> IMHO we should undust Alons opus patches *now* and get stuff ready. > >> Given the sample rate issue a bit more work that just switching the > >> codec, so it will need some time

Re: [Spice-devel] [PATCH] make celt to be optional

2012-06-12 Thread Ron
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 09:38:37PM +0200, Marc-André Lureau wrote: > Hi > > On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 8:19 PM, Ron wrote: > > More official than the codec working group declaring it to be in its > > finally frozen form, or the codec specification being submitted to and > &g

Re: [Spice-devel] [PATCH] make celt to be optional

2012-06-12 Thread Ron
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 06:30:36PM +0200, Marc-André Lureau wrote: > Hi > > On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 5:35 PM, Ron wrote: > > The bitstream has been frozen for just a tad under a year now. > > I don't know how you can claim that: http://www.opus-codec.org/downloads/ &

Re: [Spice-devel] [PATCH] make celt to be optional

2012-06-12 Thread Ron
d 44.1? Many (most?) sound cards don't support that rate anyway and will require it to be resampled to 48k before being played on them in any case ... Cheers, Ron ___ Spice-devel mailing list Spice-devel@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/spice-devel

Re: [Spice-devel] [PATCH] make celt to be optional

2012-06-12 Thread Ron
certain" update is not bitstream compatible with the celt you currently use. Stable releases have maintainers. Celt no longer has a maintainer of any description. There is an important distinction there. I'm not suggesting you need to panic and do anything silly. But the time to start addressing the real future of this _is_ now. Cheers, Ron ___ Spice-devel mailing list Spice-devel@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/spice-devel

Re: [Spice-devel] Bug#603699: ITP: celt051 -- The CELT codec v0.5.1

2010-11-17 Thread Ron
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 03:48:36PM +0100, Gerd Hoffmann wrote: > On 11/17/10 13:04, Ron wrote: > >Are you seriously telling me that you have no plan whatsoever for how > >to transition from a random snapshot of an experimental codec, > > We can transition just fine. serve

Re: [Spice-devel] Bug#603699: ITP: celt051 -- The CELT codec v0.5.1

2010-11-17 Thread Ron
andom snapshots of unmaintained things that only one experimental application actually needs. Wouldn't it? (trying not to be grumpy, but kind of frustrated by this sort of thinking), Ron ___ Spice-devel mailing list Spice-devel@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/spice-devel