On 17 February 2014 04:03, Ean Schuessler wrote:
> That's an interesting piece of software. Does SPI use ledger-cli?
Oh, huh, I saw 'ledger-CLI' but read it as SQL-Ledger apparently. Joey
Hess has used hledegr and blogged about it previously:
https://joeyh.name/blog/entry/hledger/
and there's
On 02/16/2014 01:03 PM, Ean Schuessler wrote:
> - "Anthony Towns" wrote:
>
>> According to the link above, they got almost $54k of their desired
>> $75k and have started work. Looks like there's some preliminary
>> results available at http://npoacct.sfconservancy.org/
>>
>> FWIW, at linux.co
- "Anthony Towns" wrote:
> According to the link above, they got almost $54k of their desired
> $75k and have started work. Looks like there's some preliminary
> results available at http://npoacct.sfconservancy.org/
>
> FWIW, at linux.conf.au last month, the Linux Australia council
> report
Hi,
On 3 May 2013 04:21, Josh Berkus wrote:
> The Software Freedom Conservancy is proposing to fund the efforts of a
> full-time software developer to create NPO accounting software which
> will be completely open source and free. SPI could really use such
> software.
> https://sfconservancy.org
On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 04:59:28PM -0500, Josh Berkus wrote:
> On 02/15/2014 12:06 PM, Anthony Towns wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On 3 May 2013 04:21, Josh Berkus wrote:
> >> The Software Freedom Conservancy is proposing to fund the efforts of a
> >> full-time software developer to create NPO accountin
On 02/15/2014 12:06 PM, Anthony Towns wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 3 May 2013 04:21, Josh Berkus wrote:
>> The Software Freedom Conservancy is proposing to fund the efforts of a
>> full-time software developer to create NPO accounting software which
>> will be completely open source and free. SPI could r
On 5/7/2013 1:29 PM, Josh Berkus wrote:
MJ,
We should donate restricted for
the project, not for the outcome, so it'll be usable towards it even
if the total is insufficient.
Yes, there have been a couple of calls for making the grant restricted.
I think that's probably the way we should go
+1 in general with the idea.
Based on the 31st Dec 2012 vs 31st Dec 2011 treasurer's reports; SPI's
general funds increased by $11k from $35k to $46k last year, so $10k sounds
like a sensible figure to choose too.
On 4 May 2013 03:16, Josh Berkus wrote:
> > What I meant was: I don't see any req
On Thu, May 02, 2013 at 11:21:41AM -0700, Josh Berkus wrote:
> SPI members:
>
> The Software Freedom Conservancy is proposing to fund the efforts of a
> full-time software developer to create NPO accounting software which
> will be completely open source and free. SPI could really use such
> soft
MJ,
> The problem is not my reading comprehension. The problem is that the
> above reasoning makes no sense to me: if they're committing to do this
> work, why do they need the donations to be unrestricted? Surely if
> the donations are insufficient funding, they need to add more funds,
> not us
Jimmy Kaplowitz
> If you read the full bullet point from which you excerpted, it's clear that
> they're committing to do this work, but don't want the donations to be legally
> unusable if they're insufficiently funded.
I did read the full bullet point, but didn't think the rest needed
quoting.
On 05/03/2013 09:45 AM, Clint Adams wrote:
> On Thu, May 02, 2013 at 12:43:03PM -0700, Josh Berkus wrote:
>> > It's not an unrestricted donation.
> So you're proposing a restricted donation?
>
I talked to Bradley about this. The SFC is willing to consider a
restricted grant from us if that's one
Hi Zack,
On Fri, May 03, 2013 at 08:45:27PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> Don't get me wrong: I've worked with SPI accountant(s) for many years
> and I know they do *a lot* of work. But that doesn't mean they could
> scale indefinitely. At some point, given the purpose of SPI, you should
> pr
> As an example: wouldn't those money (+ a good deal of extra other) be
> better spent to pay a professional accountant than in this fund-raising
> initiative? I'm convinced that at SPI scale, that would make a real
> difference in the quality of service offered to affiliated projects.
If you loo
On Fri, May 03, 2013 at 10:16:09AM -0700, Josh Berkus wrote:
> > Would $10,000 be spent better in another way more in line with our
> > remit? I have no idea.
>
> I assert that it would not. Especially since that $10K represents
> money we have sat on for literally years, and nobody has introdu
On 05/03/2013 09:45 AM, Clint Adams wrote:
> On Thu, May 02, 2013 at 12:43:03PM -0700, Josh Berkus wrote:
>> It's not an unrestricted donation.
>
> So you're proposing a restricted donation?
Ah, I didn't see the "General Donation" note. I'll need to ask Bradley
about that. I agree that I wouldn
On Thu, May 02, 2013 at 12:43:03PM -0700, Josh Berkus wrote:
> It's not an unrestricted donation.
So you're proposing a restricted donation?
> Right now? Beta-level quality. Maybe even alpha-level. Right now
> we're using a loose collection of ad-hoc software, none of which is
> adequate for o
Hi MJ,
On Fri, May 03, 2013 at 02:01:58PM +0100, MJ Ray wrote:
> > It's not an unrestricted donation.
>
> According to their web page: "Donations made are general donations to
> the Software Freedom Conservancy, Inc.,"
>
> Doesn't general donation == unrestricted?
>
> That's the only serious pr
Josh Berkus
> On 05/02/2013 12:40 PM, Clint Adams wrote:
> > Aside from concerns about a 501(c)3 making an unrestricted donation
> > to another 501(c)3:
>
> It's not an unrestricted donation.
According to their web page: "Donations made are general donations to
the Software Freedom Conservancy,
Jimmy Kaplowitz writes:
> I see they list SPI as an endorser with our
> encouragement to donate and support. It's possible they did this based on
> Bdale's quote as SPI president, but I wouldn't have a problem
> explicitly voting to endorse (I'd obviously vote yes) for more
> emphasis.
I was hap
Ean,
Sounds like you should join the mailing list and do an evaluation of
OfBiz for it.
--Josh
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Actually, it sounds a lot like the credit and debit accounts in OFBiz.
These are used for a variety of purposes in businesses. Purchasing
accounts used to restrict departmental budgets, pre-paid cash accounts
for customers to draw against, lines of credit extended to customers,
credit accounts for
> There is open source accounting software. LedgerSMB, Tryton, GnuCash...
>
> Why are we reinventing the wheel? If we want to support better NPO
> integration doesn't it make sense to start with that?
Please read the page I linked to. It explains these things.
--Josh
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> The needs of a NPO are quite different than those of a for-profit business
> such
> as OfB might help, especially a fiscal sponsor like either SPI or Conservancy.
> The key difference is a large number of temporarily restricted accounts (for
> Conservancy) or earmarks whose purposes we need to
On May 2, 2013, at 2:21 PM, Josh Berkus wrote:
> The Software Freedom Conservancy is proposing to fund the efforts of a
> full-time software developer to create NPO accounting software which
> will be completely open source and free. SPI could really use such
> software.
>
> https://sfconservan
On Thu, May 02, 2013 at 04:10:47PM -0500, Ean Schuessler wrote:
> Agreed. In the past I had mentioned Apache's Open for Business project.
> It does fairly sophisticated accounting as well as multi-facility
> inventory management, customer relationship management, tracking project
> hours and manufa
Agreed. In the past I had mentioned Apache's Open for Business project.
It does fairly sophisticated accounting as well as multi-facility
inventory management, customer relationship management, tracking project
hours and manufacturing line control. For actual small to medium size
businesses, the le
Hi,
On Thu, May 02, 2013 at 01:24:21PM -0700, Joshua D. Drake wrote:
> >Seems like quite a good idea to me. I've read the Conservancy page and agree
> >something like this is sorely needed, including by SPI, but doesn't exist
> >yet.
> >The suggested amount even seems reasonable given how much it
On 05/02/2013 12:40 PM, Clint Adams wrote:
> On Thu, May 02, 2013 at 11:21:41AM -0700, Josh Berkus wrote:
>> The Software Freedom Conservancy is proposing to fund the efforts of a
>> full-time software developer to create NPO accounting software which
>> will be completely open source and free. SP
On 05/02/2013 12:34 PM, Jimmy Kaplowitz wrote:
Hi,
On Thu, May 02, 2013 at 11:21:41AM -0700, Josh Berkus wrote:
[...]
As such, I propose that we fund this effort using $10,000 out of our
general SPI funds. I think this is a good idea because:
[...]
Seems like quite a good idea to me. I've
On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 2:21 PM, Josh Berkus wrote:
>
> As such, I propose that we fund this effort using $10,000 out of our
> general SPI funds.
Speaking as a donor (over the last few years, I have directed about $1,200
of my small company's donations to the SPI general fund), I think this would
On Thu, May 02, 2013 at 07:40:01PM +, Clint Adams wrote:
> Aside from concerns about a 501(c)3 making an unrestricted donation
> to another 501(c)3:
Hi Clint,
It's my non-lawyer understanding that 501(c)3s may donate to ther
501(c)3s providing it's within the scope of their mission.
Might ne
On Thu, May 02, 2013 at 11:21:41AM -0700, Josh Berkus wrote:
> The Software Freedom Conservancy is proposing to fund the efforts of a
> full-time software developer to create NPO accounting software which
> will be completely open source and free. SPI could really use such
> software.
Aside from
Hi,
On Thu, May 02, 2013 at 11:21:41AM -0700, Josh Berkus wrote:
[...]
> As such, I propose that we fund this effort using $10,000 out of our
> general SPI funds. I think this is a good idea because:
[...]
Seems like quite a good idea to me. I've read the Conservancy page and agree
something lik
SPI members:
The Software Freedom Conservancy is proposing to fund the efforts of a
full-time software developer to create NPO accounting software which
will be completely open source and free. SPI could really use such
software.
https://sfconservancy.org/campaign/
As such, I propose that we fu
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