Re: [SAtalk] bouncing as an alternative to /dev/null

2002-11-26 Thread John Rudd
er... that should have been "from or to" not "from or two". --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Get the new Palm Tungsten T handheld. Power & Color in a compact size! http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?palm0002en

Re: [SAtalk] bouncing as an alternative to /dev/null

2002-11-26 Thread John Rudd
> From: Martin Schroeder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > On 2002-11-25 02:29:35 -0800, John Rudd wrote: > > Doesn't matter. If the sender address was false information, then they > > can't appeal the blacklisting (and I don't want them to), but I'll stop > > getting spam from that address (and typically

Re: [SAtalk] bouncing as an alternative to /dev/null

2002-11-26 Thread Martin Schroeder
On 2002-11-25 02:29:35 -0800, John Rudd wrote: > Doesn't matter. If the sender address was false information, then they > can't appeal the blacklisting (and I don't want them to), but I'll stop > getting spam from that address (and typically the addresses have been > repetitive). What matters

Re: [SAtalk] bouncing as an alternative to /dev/null

2002-11-26 Thread Rich Duzenbury
> I don't believe this. I've been using SA for quite awhile and I can't > remember the last FP I got. So, fairly recently, I changed my procmail > setup so that I keep those that score between 5 and 9, everything over nine > goes out the window. About 54% of the spam I get scores more than 9.

Re: [SAtalk] bouncing as an alternative to /dev/null

2002-11-25 Thread Mike Leone
Rich Duzenbury ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) had this to say on 11/25/02 at 18:43: > > > > >Auto-bouncing spam also auto-bounces FPs, and you lose legitmate mail. Tag > >everything with SA, and no need to change addresses; simply route all > >tagged mail to a special folder, which you check every few days.

Re: [SAtalk] bouncing as an alternative to /dev/null

2002-11-25 Thread Rich Duzenbury
Auto-bouncing spam also auto-bounces FPs, and you lose legitmate mail. Tag everything with SA, and no need to change addresses; simply route all tagged mail to a special folder, which you check every few days. You never lose any mail, and you get to retreive any FPs, and you don't get to see the

Re: [SAtalk] bouncing as an alternative to /dev/null

2002-11-25 Thread Michael Leone
Jon Gabrielson said: > I've heard this more than once, but the alternative to automatically > bouncing mail is to change your email address every couple > months which in effect starts automatically bouncing the mail > anyways. I really don't see the difference. Auto-bouncing spam also auto-boun

Re: [SAtalk] bouncing as an alternative to /dev/null

2002-11-25 Thread Vivek Khera
> "RH" == Ralf Hildebrandt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: RH> * Maxime Ritter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> > If you wish to not receive the spam at all, and let the spammer know >> > about it, implement a spam filter in your SMTP engine and 550 the >> > sender. I use qpsmtpd, and it's spamassassin p

Re: [SAtalk] bouncing as an alternative to /dev/null

2002-11-25 Thread Matt Sergeant
Vivek Khera said the following on 25/11/02 16:10: "MS" == Martin Schroeder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: MS> On 2002-11-24 17:05:47 -0600, Jon Gabrielson wrote: Anyways, i thought that I would throw up a page explaining how I bounce spam instead. I bounce MS> Automatically bouncing spam is

Re: [SAtalk] bouncing as an alternative to /dev/null

2002-11-25 Thread Vivek Khera
> "MS" == Martin Schroeder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: MS> On 2002-11-24 17:05:47 -0600, Jon Gabrielson wrote: >> Anyways, i thought that I would throw up a page >> explaining how I bounce spam instead. I bounce MS> Automatically bouncing spam is BAD. Look it up on Google. I don't think it

Re: [SAtalk] bouncing as an alternative to /dev/null

2002-11-25 Thread Jon Gabrielson
gt; From: Martin Schroeder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [SAtalk] bouncing as an alternative to /dev/null > > On 2002-11-24 17:05:47 -0600, Jon Gabrielson wrote: > > Anyways, i thought that I would throw up a page > > explaining how I bo

Re: [SAtalk] bouncing as an alternative to /dev/null

2002-11-25 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Maxime Ritter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > If you wish to not receive the spam at all, and let the spammer know > > about it, implement a spam filter in your SMTP engine and 550 the > > sender. I use qpsmtpd, and it's spamassassin plugin. It's very easy to > > extend it to 550 any high scoring sp

Re: [SAtalk] bouncing as an alternative to /dev/null

2002-11-25 Thread Ross Vandegrift
On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 10:57:51AM +, Matt Sergeant wrote: > I get about 10 bounce messages a day from invalid email addresses. I > can't imagine what I would get if spam filters started auto-bouncing > too. All of these are from spam engines which have used my email address. Another point i

Re: [SAtalk] bouncing as an alternative to /dev/null

2002-11-25 Thread Matt Sergeant
John Rudd said the following on 25/11/02 12:01: If you wish to not receive the spam at all, and let the spammer know about it, implement a spam filter in your SMTP engine and 550 the sender. I use qpsmtpd, and it's spamassassin plugin. It's very easy to extend it to 550 any high scoring spam (b

Re: [SAtalk] bouncing as an alternative to /dev/null

2002-11-25 Thread Maxime Ritter
On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 10:57:51AM +, Matt Sergeant wrote: > If you wish to not receive the spam at all, and let the spammer know > about it, implement a spam filter in your SMTP engine and 550 the > sender. I use qpsmtpd, and it's spamassassin plugin. It's very easy to > extend it to 550 an

Re: [SAtalk] bouncing as an alternative to /dev/null

2002-11-25 Thread John Rudd
> From: Matt Sergeant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > The problems associated with bouncing spam aren't your problems - they > are problems you inflict on the person you bounce to (which almost > always isn't the spammer). > > I get about 10 bounce messages a day from invalid email addresses. I > can't

Re: [SAtalk] bouncing as an alternative to /dev/null

2002-11-25 Thread Justin Mason
Matt Sergeant said: > If you wish to not receive the spam at all, and let the spammer know > about it, implement a spam filter in your SMTP engine and 550 the > sender. I use qpsmtpd, and it's spamassassin plugin. It's very easy to > extend it to 550 any high scoring spam (but I don't do that

Re: [SAtalk] bouncing as an alternative to /dev/null

2002-11-25 Thread Matt Sergeant
John Rudd said the following on 25/11/02 08:15: I haven't had any problems. The problems associated with bouncing spam aren't your problems - they are problems you inflict on the person you bounce to (which almost always isn't the spammer). I get about 10 bounce messages a day from invalid em

Re: [SAtalk] bouncing as an alternative to /dev/null

2002-11-25 Thread John Rudd
On Monday, Nov 25, 2002, at 01:29 US/Pacific, Martin Schroeder wrote: On 2002-11-25 00:15:11 -0800, John Rudd wrote: On Sunday, Nov 24, 2002, at 17:19 US/Pacific, Martin Schroeder wrote: Automatically bouncing spam is BAD. Look it up on Google. Well, if google says it, it must be true! :-)

Re: [SAtalk] bouncing as an alternative to /dev/null

2002-11-25 Thread Martin Schroeder
On 2002-11-25 00:15:11 -0800, John Rudd wrote: > On Sunday, Nov 24, 2002, at 17:19 US/Pacific, Martin Schroeder wrote: > >Automatically bouncing spam is BAD. Look it up on Google. > > > > Well, if google says it, it must be true! :-) > > I automatically bounce spam with a warning (if they're not

Re: [SAtalk] bouncing as an alternative to /dev/null

2002-11-25 Thread John Rudd
On Sunday, Nov 24, 2002, at 17:19 US/Pacific, Martin Schroeder wrote: On 2002-11-24 17:05:47 -0600, Jon Gabrielson wrote: Anyways, i thought that I would throw up a page explaining how I bounce spam instead. I bounce Automatically bouncing spam is BAD. Look it up on Google. Well, if googl

Re: [SAtalk] bouncing as an alternative to /dev/null

2002-11-24 Thread Martin Schroeder
On 2002-11-24 17:05:47 -0600, Jon Gabrielson wrote: > Anyways, i thought that I would throw up a page > explaining how I bounce spam instead. I bounce Automatically bouncing spam is BAD. Look it up on Google. Best regards Martin -- http://www.tm.oneiros.de/calendar/2003/

Re: [SAtalk] bouncing as an alternative to /dev/null

2002-11-24 Thread Jon Gabrielson
> > So, what that is saying is that if the subject does not contain 332762 > then send it to /etc/smrsh/bounceSPAM $4 $2 > correct. > > (I have no idea what the 4th and 2nd argument would be). > The 4th and 2nd argument happen to be username and email address respectively(from the arguments pa

Re: [SAtalk] bouncing as an alternative to /dev/null

2002-11-24 Thread Dark Alchemist
Jon Gabrielson wrote: > > On Sunday 24 November 2002 18:32, Dark Alchemist wrote: > > Jon Gabrielson wrote: > > > It seems to be a common question to ask how to > > > /dev/null high scoring spam. This should probably > > > be in the FAQs (as well as a few safer methods). > > > Anyways, i thought

Re: [SAtalk] bouncing as an alternative to /dev/null

2002-11-24 Thread Jon Gabrielson
On Sunday 24 November 2002 18:32, Dark Alchemist wrote: > Jon Gabrielson wrote: > > It seems to be a common question to ask how to > > /dev/null high scoring spam. This should probably > > be in the FAQs (as well as a few safer methods). > > Anyways, i thought that I would throw up a page > > expl

Re: [SAtalk] bouncing as an alternative to /dev/null

2002-11-24 Thread Vince Hoang
On Sun, Nov 24, 2002 at 05:05:47PM -0600, Jon Gabrielson wrote: > http://www.directfreight.com/howtobouncespamwithprocmail.txt Spambouncer also provides a similar procmail-based solution. However, most of the spam I get have forged return addresses. Employing a method such as this can litter the

Re: [SAtalk] bouncing as an alternative to /dev/null

2002-11-24 Thread Dark Alchemist
Jon Gabrielson wrote: > > It seems to be a common question to ask how to > /dev/null high scoring spam. This should probably > be in the FAQs (as well as a few safer methods). > Anyways, i thought that I would throw up a page > explaining how I bounce spam instead. I bounce > high scoring spam,