RE: [SAtalk] bayes feedback

2003-09-03 Thread Simon Byrnand
At 11:06 2/09/2003 -0500, Tom Meunier wrote: Because without a few hundred messages, it would be completely and utterly useless? It would be like meeting an airline pilot who was 5'7" tall and had a scar on his left cheek and wore his hat backwards. Bayes would think that scars on left cheeks

Re: [SAtalk] bayes feedback

2003-09-02 Thread Justin Mason
On Tue, Sep 02, 2003 at 08:53:50AM -0700, Ron Gilbert wrote: > >>I read here that bayes is only turned on after > >>it learned from at least 200 spams AND 200 hams. > >>That number could be more. It only starts to be > >>efficient after you got say 1000 of both. > > Can someone explain to me why

RE: [SAtalk] bayes feedback

2003-09-02 Thread Tom Meunier
> -Original Message- > From: Ron Gilbert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>Because without a few hundred messages, it would be > completely and utterly > useless? > > Yes, i do understand that. I guess my complaint is that I > would have rather > it started working and been somewhat us

RE: [SAtalk] bayes feedback

2003-09-02 Thread Bart Schaefer
On Tue, 2 Sep 2003, Ron Gilbert wrote: > I guess my complaint is that I would have rather it started working and > been somewhat useless (like POPFile did), or provide much better > feedback on it's status. SpamAssassin's ethos has always been that a few false negatives are better than even one

RE: [SAtalk] bayes feedback

2003-09-02 Thread Ron Gilbert
>>Because without a few hundred messages, it would be completely and utterly useless? Yes, i do understand that. I guess my complaint is that I would have rather it started working and been somewhat useless (like POPFile did), or provide much better feedback on it's status. From what I can tell

RE: [SAtalk] bayes feedback

2003-09-02 Thread Ron Gilbert
>>I read here that bayes is only turned on after >>it learned from at least 200 spams AND 200 hams. >>That number could be more. It only starts to be >>efficient after you got say 1000 of both. Can someone explain to me why SA won't start using bayes until it's seen several hundred messages? I

RE: [SAtalk] bayes feedback

2003-09-02 Thread Tom Meunier
t [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 10:54 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [SAtalk] bayes feedback > > > > >>I read here that bayes is only turned on after > >>it learned from at least 200 spams AND 200 hams. > >>That nu

Re: [SAtalk] bayes feedback

2003-09-02 Thread Carlo Wood
I read here that bayes is only turned on after it learned from at least 200 spams AND 200 hams. That number could be more. It only starts to be efficient after you got say 1000 of both. Once it kicks in, you should see tests with names like BAYES_*. -- Carlo Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -