Re: [SAtalk] unlearning a lot of ham

2003-06-19 Thread jeff covey
on Thu, Jun 19, 2003 at 10:51:30AM +0200%, Tony Earnshaw said: jeff> 75 spam messages have been recorded as ham. i don't have jeff> the original messages, so i can't use sa-learn to unlearn jeff> them. how can i keep the spam i've given the filter but jeff> wipe out all the ham,

Re: [SAtalk] unlearning a lot of ham

2003-06-19 Thread Tony Earnshaw
jeff covey wrote: on Wed, Jun 18, 2003 at 10:50:22AM -0400%, Ross Vandegrift said: ross> if you retrain Bayes with the messages in question apparently, this thread has wandered far enough that my original message has been forgotten. it's here: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=spamassassin-ta

Re: [SAtalk] unlearning a lot of ham

2003-06-18 Thread jeff covey
on Wed, Jun 18, 2003 at 10:50:22AM -0400%, Ross Vandegrift said: ross> if you retrain Bayes with the messages in question apparently, this thread has wandered far enough that my original message has been forgotten. it's here: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=spamassassin-talk&m=1055869669284

Re: [SAtalk] unlearning a lot of ham

2003-06-18 Thread Ross Vandegrift
On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 09:43:55PM -0400, jeff covey wrote: > while the side issues are interesting, does anyone have answers for > the actual questions that started this thread? :) LOL, yes - if you retrain Bayes with the messages in question and specifically mention that it's spam, they should

Re: [SAtalk] unlearning a lot of ham

2003-06-17 Thread jeff covey
on Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 05:30:52PM -0700%, Balam Willemsen said: q> Do the fuzzy checksums ignore "personalizations"? a> Yes, they ignore many so called "personalizations". err. thanks, but that's not really enough information to tell me anything. what is considered a "personalizatio

Re: [SAtalk] unlearning a lot of ham

2003-06-17 Thread jeff covey
while the side issues are interesting, does anyone have answers for the actual questions that started this thread? :) most importantly: can i remove all the (bogus) ham data in my bayes database without removing any of the (valid) spam data i've collected? as for reporting leading to learning a

RE: [SAtalk] unlearning a lot of ham

2003-06-17 Thread Balam Willemsen
nal Message- > From: Jim Ford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 5:08 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [SAtalk] unlearning a lot of ham > On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 06:44:06PM -0400, jeff covey wrote: > > i assume that other people could use re

Re: [SAtalk] unlearning a lot of ham

2003-06-17 Thread Jim Ford
On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 06:44:06PM -0400, jeff covey wrote: > i assume that other people could use reports of generic spam i've > received, but that it won't help them to have a checksum of a message > which is customized with my name, email address, etc. it's not going > to help me to know that

Re: [SAtalk] unlearning a lot of ham

2003-06-17 Thread jeff covey
on Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 09:22:18PM +0100%, Jim Ford said: jim> I didn't realise you'd want to learn spam but not report it! jim> Why would you want to do this - I always report spam that jim> slips through to Razor? i assume that other people could use reports of generic spam i've rec

Re: [SAtalk] unlearning a lot of ham

2003-06-17 Thread Jim Ford
On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 02:26:14PM -0400, jeff covey wrote: > on Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 07:06:52PM +0100%, Jim Ford said: > jim> so the first 2 macros are redundant. > > i don't understand what you're trying to say. one learns spam (for > spam i don't want to report) and one learns and reports

Re: [SAtalk] unlearning a lot of ham

2003-06-17 Thread Jim Ford
On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 12:53:57PM -0400, jeff covey wrote: > hello, all. > # train spamassassin's bayesian filter > macro index S "| sa-learn --single --spam -D" > macro pager S "| sa-learn --single --spam -D" > # report spam to razor > macro index Z "| spamassassin -r -D" > macro pager Z "| spam

[SAtalk] unlearning a lot of ham

2003-06-17 Thread jeff covey
hello, all. i'm running spamassassin 2.55 on a debian testing system. i wanted to do the following: for spam specific to me (containing my name, a unique spamee number, etc.): tell spamassassin it's spam. for generic spam: tell spamassassin it's spam and report it to razor, pyzor, etc. so