Re: [SAtalk] Re: Having trouble coding a local rule

2003-12-29 Thread Peter Kiem
> Once you realise this, you can see how whitelisting is easy to fool... Which is exactly why I didn't want a whitelisting solution, just a reduction in spam scoring. -- Regards, +-+-+ | Peter Kiem.^. | E-Mail: <[EMAIL

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Having trouble coding a local rule

2003-12-29 Thread Simon Byrnand
At 10:44 29/12/2003 +1000, Peter Kiem wrote: > Just a guess ... because the "From" address is not > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"? I thought the from rule worked on the envelope sender of the email and not the easily forged from header :( You mean on the easily forged envelope sender instead of the easily fo

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Having trouble coding a local rule

2003-12-28 Thread Martin Radford
At Mon Dec 29 01:30:45 2003, Peter Kiem wrote: > > > What makes you think the envelope sender isn't easily forged? > > OK point taken, but from what I have seen the From headers are *usually* > what are forged and not the envelope address. Spammers don't want any trace back to them, and they don

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Having trouble coding a local rule

2003-12-28 Thread Peter Kiem
Hi David, > Actually, 'whitelist_from_rcvd' is the way to go, as it will only apply > if -both- the From address and the DNS host name of the sending system > match the rule. However looking back at your first post I see that the > DNS reverse map for the 'sneezy' system is FUBAR, so you cannot us

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Having trouble coding a local rule

2003-12-28 Thread David B Funk
On Mon, 29 Dec 2003, Peter Kiem wrote: > >> Preferably not as if someone does forge it, then the mail goes straight > >> through... > > > > Isn't that what whitelist_from_rcvd is for? man Mail::SpamAssassin::Conf > > The point is I *DON'T* want to whitelist. I wanted just to lower the SA > score

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Having trouble coding a local rule

2003-12-28 Thread Peter Kiem
> What makes you think the envelope sender isn't easily forged? OK point taken, but from what I have seen the From headers are *usually* what are forged and not the envelope address. -- Regards, +-+-+ | Peter Kiem.^. | E-M

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Having trouble coding a local rule

2003-12-28 Thread Peter Kiem
>> Preferably not as if someone does forge it, then the mail goes straight >> through... > > Isn't that what whitelist_from_rcvd is for? man Mail::SpamAssassin::Conf The point is I *DON'T* want to whitelist. I wanted just to lower the SA scores with a local rule. -- Regards, +-

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Having trouble coding a local rule

2003-12-28 Thread Keith C. Ivey
Peter Kiem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I thought the from rule worked on the envelope sender of the email and not > the easily forged from header :( What makes you think the envelope sender isn't easily forged? -- Keith C. Ivey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Washington, DC

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Having trouble coding a local rule

2003-12-28 Thread Scott Lambert
On Mon, Dec 29, 2003 at 10:44:24AM +1000, Peter Kiem wrote: > > Just a guess ... because the "From" address is not > > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"? > > I thought the from rule worked on the envelope sender of the email and not > the easily forged from header :( > > > You might try dropping the "[EMAIL PR

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Having trouble coding a local rule

2003-12-28 Thread Peter Kiem
> Just a guess ... because the "From" address is not > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"? I thought the from rule worked on the envelope sender of the email and not the easily forged from header :( > You might try dropping the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" part of the rule and you might > have better luck. Yeah I might

[SAtalk] Re: Having trouble coding a local rule

2003-12-28 Thread David Gibbs
Peter Kiem wrote: header LOCAL_GOOD_SENDER_11 From =~ /[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ score LOCAL_GOOD_SENDER_11 -2.0 Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why isn't the local rule being activated? Just a guess ... because the "From" address is not "[EMAIL PROTECTED]