Re: [SAtalk] Interview with "Spam King" Scelson

2002-07-07 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Sat, 6 Jul 2002 the voices made Ben Jackson write: > On Tue, Jul 02, 2002 at 04:24:38AM +0200, Tony L. Svanstrom wrote: > > > > I've been hit by this too, and I can't help but think that these blacklists do > > more harm than good. Spammers will easily move on, but for the small non-tech > >

Re: [SAtalk] Interview with "Spam King" Scelson

2002-07-06 Thread Ben Jackson
On Tue, Jul 02, 2002 at 04:24:38AM +0200, Tony L. Svanstrom wrote: > > I've been hit by this too, and I can't help but think that these blacklists do > more harm than good. Spammers will easily move on, but for the small non-tech > company it could take a week of no business before they're back

RE: [SAtalk] Interview with "Spam King" Scelson

2002-07-03 Thread Hallikainen HAROLD Friends
There are some interesting ideas for clogging spam mailing lists at http://www.turnstep.com/Spambot/. I added a short php script to do our part at http://www.dovesystems.com/BuildPage.php?page=contact . Maybe someday they'll advertise 100,000,000 email addresses, two or three of which are guarante

RE: [SAtalk] Interview with "Spam King" Scelson

2002-07-03 Thread Steve Thomas
Clearly, getting a spammer's connection terminated isn't enough of a deterrent to keep them from spamming. Perhaps getting the spammers themselves terminated would be... ...anyone got a good sniper rifle? ;) --- This sf.net email is sponsore

Re: [SAtalk] Interview with "Spam King" Scelson

2002-07-02 Thread Olivier Nicole
>don't own. According to the SPEWS event ticket its just a single server there >which had sent Spam (with 4 IPs on it according to NMAP) and SPEWS blocks >+60K IP addresses thanks to that fact. There is absolutely no way to get out >of SPEWS until the owner of the netblock shuts down the spamme

Re: [SAtalk] Interview with "Spam King" Scelson

2002-07-02 Thread Ross Vandegrift
> > Being heavy-handed isn't the same thing as being Nazi-ish. No matter how > > heavy handed they might be, the real-world equivalent of black-lists are > > boycotts, not Fascists and dictators. > > Nothing against heavy handed measures against Spammers, but hey .. being > counted off as accep

Re: [SAtalk] Interview with "Spam King" Scelson

2002-07-01 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Tue, 2 Jul 2002 the voices made Michael Stauber write: > That's no unique event and I've seen that happening a couple of times with > different providers and different blacklists in recent years. Its not exactly > fun. I've been hit by this too, and I can't help but think that these blacklis

Re: [SAtalk] Interview with "Spam King" Scelson

2002-07-01 Thread Michael Stauber
Hi Mattew, > Being heavy-handed isn't the same thing as being Nazi-ish. No matter how > heavy handed they might be, the real-world equivalent of black-lists are > boycotts, not Fascists and dictators. I'd say taking entire IP-subnets into "Sippenhaft" (collective hostage taking) to catch just

Re: [SAtalk] Interview with "Spam King" Scelson

2002-07-01 Thread Matthew Cline
On Monday 01 July 2002 06:04 pm, Michael Stauber wrote: > Hi Matthew, > > Right, we're dictators, *forcing* our concerns on the masses > > *yearning* for email advertisements, and he's a freedom fighter. Or > > something. > I'm fully with you in the trenches on this one, Matthew. FWIW: I've be

Re: [SAtalk] Interview with "Spam King" Scelson

2002-07-01 Thread Michael Stauber
Hi Matthew, > Right, we're dictators, *forcing* our concerns on the masses > *yearning* for email advertisements, and he's a freedom fighter. Or > soemthing. I'm fully with you in the trenches on this one, Matthew. FWIW: I've been fighting Spam for years, but sometimes I'm also pricelessly puz

Re: [SAtalk] Interview with "Spam King" Scelson

2002-06-30 Thread Bryan Hoover
Matthew Cline wrote: > > Scelson, who designed the software, says it will penetrate virtually > > > any system designed to stop ads from reaching the intended mailbox. > > > "If it accepts e-mail, there's a way in," he says. "And this is > > designed to get around anything." Yeah, right. Looks

[SAtalk] Interview with "Spam King" Scelson

2002-06-30 Thread Matthew Cline
http://www.ctnow.com/technology/hc-sp1scelsonjun30.story?coll=hc-headlines-home > The program allows him to control every aspect of the outgoing > e-mail - including masking the sender, randomly changing the subject > line or disguising the point of origin. A legitamit business which needs