Re: [SAtalk] Force Feeding The Bayesian Database

2003-12-03 Thread Arlo Gilbert
On Dec 3, 2003, at 11:18 AM, Ernest W. Lessenger wrote: Are all of your users in the same company/organization? If so, you could use the same database for all of them for a while, and then split it out once it kicks in. It's still a better idea to train individually, but your users (may) have mo

[SAtalk] Force Feeding The Bayesian Database

2003-12-03 Thread Arlo Gilbert
I'm setting up per user bayesian databases but as i've mentioned in other posts, many of the people using the system recieve low volumes of spam... 4-10 a day maybe. Accordingly it would take them 1-2 months for the database to kick in. Does anybody have a bayesian database that is fairly gener

Re: [SAtalk] Rules Modification /Content Filtering Results

2003-12-02 Thread Arlo Gilbert
I'm getting a common response here which is to lean towards bayes rather than score manipulation. However, bayes takes so long to build up. Especially if grandma only gets 2 or 3 spams a day. Given that SA refuses to use bayesian filtering til after it has collected 200 spam samples, in my exam

[SAtalk] Rules Modification /Content Filtering Results

2003-12-01 Thread Arlo Gilbert
Hi Everybody, This is a long post but i would REALLY appreciate your input, criticism, flaming, and what not. I'm working on integrating spamassassin into our own spam filtering mechanism. Currently, with a score of 5 or greater we modify the subject line to indicate the spammishness of the me

Re: [SAtalk] dcc returns letters not numbers. docs say to limit # 's

2003-10-22 Thread Arlo Gilbert
faith in them? And is a 9 a little late? Sure if 100k people have seen it we can likely consider it spam, but why 100k? why not less? -Arlo On Wednesday, October 22, 2003, at 01:35 AM, Larry Gilson wrote: Hi Arlo, -Original Message- From: Arlo Gilbert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent

[SAtalk] dcc returns letters not numbers. docs say to limit #'s

2003-10-21 Thread Arlo Gilbert
I'm hopeful that somebody can explain the dcc results to me. i understand the concept of dcc, however spamassassin docs say that you should set limits that are numeric. eg. so that dcc doesnt give false positives. upon looking at the headers however, i see the following: X-Spam-DCC: SINE

[SAtalk] bayes learning "To" and "Received" headers?

2003-10-18 Thread Arlo Gilbert
it would appear from the data im seeing that bayes is learning the to and received headers on mails... obviously this seems a bit redundant and will only add to the size of the bayes db, without contributing anything (maybe even harming the learning?) of the bayes engine. any thoughts on this?

[SAtalk] Perl & MySQL - Spamassassin doesn't use mysql based user prefs

2003-10-16 Thread Arlo Gilbert
Well no thanks to any of the documentation or this list for that matter, but it appears that the implementation of SA's mail::spamassassin module is not all it says in the docs when using mysql based user prefs. Spamassassin.pm has a non public sub called init that is called internally from th

[SAtalk] does local.cf override sql prefs ?

2003-10-16 Thread Arlo Gilbert
does a "required_hits" directive in the local.cf override any user prefs that would be found in the mysql user prefs database? i've confirmed that mail::spamassassin is retrieving the pref for the correct user, but without fail spamassassin uses the system wide required_hits. i'm at the end of

[SAtalk] bless errors

2003-10-15 Thread Arlo Gilbert
this is kind of a repost. sorry, my last post of it wasnt very clear. perl 5.8, sa 2.6, redhat9 caling the following: my $spamtest = Mail::SpamAssassin->new(dont_copy_prefs => '1') gives the following error Can't bless non-reference value at /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0/Mail/SpamAssassin.pm

[SAtalk] Failed to parse line in SpamAssassin configuration

2003-10-15 Thread Arlo Gilbert
Spamassassin 2.6, perl 5.8 on a redhat 9 machine called from perl i get the following debug messages even though it appears to read those two settings as sa does abide by them. debug: Failed to parse line in SpamAssassin configuration, skipping: report_header 1 debug: Failed to parse line in Sp

[SAtalk] help - Spamassassin wont read DSN settings

2003-10-15 Thread Arlo Gilbert
Running it from perl with debug enabled...Settings all properly configured in the /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf and it wont read them. Attempting to pass the info into the new mail::spamassassin via ( user_scores_dsn => 'DBI:whatever:whatever:whatever' ) gives me a bunch of bless errors and b