Raj
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> >From: Ralf Bierig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> >Subject: RE: SOAP Performance against RMI
> >Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 05:46:10 -0700 (PDT)
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> >I have heard you can configure RMI, that it can
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that the discussion has rightly digressed into understanding
the differences of the technologies rather than a simple comparision of
performances.
Raj
>From: Ralf Bierig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Thanks Rob,
this was the only helpful answer I got for my
question!
Cheers
Ralf
--- Rob Jellinghaus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://ejbinfo.com/articles/00/10/28/0933234.shtml
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http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=Why+use+SOAP+instead+of+CORBA%3F
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> Cheers,
> Rob
>
> At 02:27 P
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> From: Scott Nichol [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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> About the only useful technology I use that was
> never over-hyped is perl!
>
> Seri
From: Oleg Dulin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 11:27 AM
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> So, I am just curious, what's the point of SOAP then
> ? Why can't we use
> RMI, or CORBA for language independe
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From: Scott Nichol [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 12:28 PM
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About the only useful technology I use that was never over-hyped is perl!
Seriously, SOAP is getting a lot of hype and, from what I
Well said.
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> About the only useful technology I use that was never over-hyped is perl!
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From: graham glass [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 3:17 PM
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hi guys,
rather than thinking about "SOAP performanc
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Subject: RE: SOAP Performance against RMI
Can't find the reference; however, about couple of month back I saw a
report with careful measurements, soap against CORBA and RMI. Basically,
SOAP is substantially slower and currently scales poorly, but, You know,
advantages are m
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From: "Konstantin Gordiyenko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 2:47 PM
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> What's the point?
> 1. Make messages human readable. Though no human will ever read thes
om: "Oleg Dulin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 2:27 PM
Subject: Re: SOAP Performance against RMI
> So, I am just curious, what's the point of SOAP then ? Why can't we use
> RMI, or CORBA for language indepen
At 11:47 AM 6/26/2001 -0700, Konstantin Gordiyenko wrote:
>I stronlgy believe that SOAP is just another hype.
That's fine. Don't use it then :-)
Cheers!
Rob
> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 11:27 AM
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> Subject: Re: SOAP Performance against RMI
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> So, I am just curious, what's the point of SOAP then ? Why
> can't we use
> RMI, or CORBA for language independence ?
>
>
> On Tue, 26 Jun 2
Just for the sake of argument...
> 1. It goes through firewalls
There is really nothing keeping the firewall admin from openning up the
RMI or IIOP port.
> 2. The clients don't need to be written in Java
With CORBA this is not any issue.
One thing I can think of that's the advantage of SOAP i
What's the point?
1. Make messages human readable. Though no human will ever read these
messages.
2. Make messages self-describing. Though no computer will ever
understand these descriptions.
3. Make RPC simple. Most other RPCs are simpler.
4. Make RPC cross-platform. CORBA already does it. And it
http://ejbinfo.com/articles/00/10/28/0933234.shtml
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=Why+use+SOAP+instead+of+CORBA%3F
Cheers,
Rob
At 02:27 PM 6/26/2001 -0400, Oleg Dulin wrote:
>So, I am just curious, what's the point of SOAP then ? Why can't we use
>RMI, or CORBA for language indepe
t: Re: SOAP Performance against RMI
So, I am just curious, what's the point of SOAP then ? Why can't we use
RMI, or CORBA for language independence ?
On Tue, 26 Jun 2001, Konstantin Gordiyenko wrote:
> I've done some tests once. Compared to Sun RMI, SOAP
> serialization/deser
So, I am just curious, what's the point of SOAP then ? Why can't we use
RMI, or CORBA for language independence ?
On Tue, 26 Jun 2001, Konstantin Gordiyenko wrote:
> I've done some tests once. Compared to Sun RMI, SOAP
> serialization/deserialization is 50-200 times slower, requires 5-20
> (ten
I've done some tests once. Compared to Sun RMI, SOAP
serialization/deserialization is 50-200 times slower, requires 5-20
(ten) times more memory and produces 5-20 (ten) times larger messages.
These ratios are mostly depend on the data structure, and almost don't
depend on the data size.
Ralf Bier
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From: Nirmal Mukhi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 8:53 AM
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Hi,
http://www.extreme.indiana.edu/soap/index.html describes an
implementation
of RMI over SOAP and also has a link to a paper that
ct: RE: SOAP Performance against RMI
06/26/2001
Can't find the reference; however, about couple of month back I saw a
report with careful measurements, soap against CORBA and RMI. Basically,
SOAP is substantially slower and currently scales poorly, but, You know,
advantages are may be tremendous.
Sergei Meleshchuk
WMI
425-705-8547
-Origi
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