Re: SOAP Performance against RMI

2001-06-27 Thread Ricky Cardozo
Raj > > >From: Ralf Bierig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: RE: SOAP Performance against RMI > >Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 05:46:10 -0700 (PDT) > > > >I have heard you can configure RMI, that it can &

RE: SOAP Performance against RMI

2001-06-27 Thread rajendra shah
that the discussion has rightly digressed into understanding the differences of the technologies rather than a simple comparision of performances. Raj >From: Ralf Bierig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: SOAP Performance agai

Re: SOAP Performance against RMI

2001-06-27 Thread Ralf Bierig
Thanks Rob, this was the only helpful answer I got for my question! Cheers Ralf --- Rob Jellinghaus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://ejbinfo.com/articles/00/10/28/0933234.shtml > http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=Why+use+SOAP+instead+of+CORBA%3F > > Cheers, > Rob > > At 02:27 P

RE: SOAP Performance against RMI

2001-06-27 Thread Ralf Bierig
---Original Message- > From: Scott Nichol [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 12:28 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: SOAP Performance against RMI > > > About the only useful technology I use that was > never over-hyped is perl! > > Seri

RE: SOAP Performance against RMI

2001-06-27 Thread Ralf Bierig
From: Oleg Dulin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 11:27 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: SOAP Performance against RMI > > > So, I am just curious, what's the point of SOAP then > ? Why can't we use > RMI, or CORBA for language independe

RE: SOAP Performance against RMI

2001-06-27 Thread Hecking, Dirck J
-Original Message- From: Scott Nichol [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 12:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: SOAP Performance against RMI About the only useful technology I use that was never over-hyped is perl! Seriously, SOAP is getting a lot of hype and, from what I

Re: SOAP Performance against RMI

2001-06-26 Thread Abid Farooqui
Well said. - Original Message - From: "Scott Nichol" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 3:28 PM Subject: Re: SOAP Performance against RMI > About the only useful technology I use that was never over-hyped is perl! > &g

RE: SOAP Performance against RMI

2001-06-26 Thread Valluri, Naveen
Guys, Can some tell me how to unsubscribe...please naveen -Original Message- From: graham glass [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 3:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: SOAP Performance against RMI hi guys, rather than thinking about "SOAP performanc

RE: SOAP Performance against RMI

2001-06-26 Thread graham glass
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: SOAP Performance against RMI Can't find the reference; however, about couple of month back I saw a report with careful measurements, soap against CORBA and RMI. Basically, SOAP is substantially slower and currently scales poorly, but, You know, advantages are m

Re: SOAP Performance against RMI

2001-06-26 Thread Scott Nichol
riginal Message - From: "Konstantin Gordiyenko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 2:47 PM Subject: Re: SOAP Performance against RMI > What's the point? > 1. Make messages human readable. Though no human will ever read thes

Re: SOAP Performance against RMI

2001-06-26 Thread Scott Nichol
om: "Oleg Dulin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 2:27 PM Subject: Re: SOAP Performance against RMI > So, I am just curious, what's the point of SOAP then ? Why can't we use > RMI, or CORBA for language indepen

Re: SOAP Performance against RMI

2001-06-26 Thread Rob Jellinghaus
At 11:47 AM 6/26/2001 -0700, Konstantin Gordiyenko wrote: >I stronlgy believe that SOAP is just another hype. That's fine. Don't use it then :-) Cheers! Rob

RE: SOAP Performance against RMI

2001-06-26 Thread Nikolay Barkhatov [ XINTEX ]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 11:27 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: SOAP Performance against RMI > > > So, I am just curious, what's the point of SOAP then ? Why > can't we use > RMI, or CORBA for language independence ? > > > On Tue, 26 Jun 2

RE: SOAP Performance against RMI

2001-06-26 Thread Oleg Dulin
Just for the sake of argument... > 1. It goes through firewalls There is really nothing keeping the firewall admin from openning up the RMI or IIOP port. > 2. The clients don't need to be written in Java With CORBA this is not any issue. One thing I can think of that's the advantage of SOAP i

Re: SOAP Performance against RMI

2001-06-26 Thread Konstantin Gordiyenko
What's the point? 1. Make messages human readable. Though no human will ever read these messages. 2. Make messages self-describing. Though no computer will ever understand these descriptions. 3. Make RPC simple. Most other RPCs are simpler. 4. Make RPC cross-platform. CORBA already does it. And it

Re: SOAP Performance against RMI

2001-06-26 Thread Rob Jellinghaus
http://ejbinfo.com/articles/00/10/28/0933234.shtml http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=Why+use+SOAP+instead+of+CORBA%3F Cheers, Rob At 02:27 PM 6/26/2001 -0400, Oleg Dulin wrote: >So, I am just curious, what's the point of SOAP then ? Why can't we use >RMI, or CORBA for language indepe

RE: SOAP Performance against RMI

2001-06-26 Thread Irfan Anwar
t: Re: SOAP Performance against RMI So, I am just curious, what's the point of SOAP then ? Why can't we use RMI, or CORBA for language independence ? On Tue, 26 Jun 2001, Konstantin Gordiyenko wrote: > I've done some tests once. Compared to Sun RMI, SOAP > serialization/deser

Re: SOAP Performance against RMI

2001-06-26 Thread Oleg Dulin
So, I am just curious, what's the point of SOAP then ? Why can't we use RMI, or CORBA for language independence ? On Tue, 26 Jun 2001, Konstantin Gordiyenko wrote: > I've done some tests once. Compared to Sun RMI, SOAP > serialization/deserialization is 50-200 times slower, requires 5-20 > (ten

Re: SOAP Performance against RMI

2001-06-26 Thread Konstantin Gordiyenko
I've done some tests once. Compared to Sun RMI, SOAP serialization/deserialization is 50-200 times slower, requires 5-20 (ten) times more memory and produces 5-20 (ten) times larger messages. These ratios are mostly depend on the data structure, and almost don't depend on the data size. Ralf Bier

RE: SOAP Performance against RMI

2001-06-26 Thread Sergei Meleshchuk
-Original Message- From: Nirmal Mukhi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 8:53 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: SOAP Performance against RMI Hi, http://www.extreme.indiana.edu/soap/index.html describes an implementation of RMI over SOAP and also has a link to a paper that

RE: SOAP Performance against RMI

2001-06-26 Thread Nirmal Mukhi
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RE: SOAP Performance against RMI

2001-06-26 Thread Sergei Meleshchuk
Can't find the reference; however, about couple of month back I saw a report with careful measurements, soap against CORBA and RMI. Basically, SOAP is substantially slower and currently scales poorly, but, You know, advantages are may be tremendous. Sergei Meleshchuk WMI 425-705-8547 -Origi