hprof 1.1

2024-01-24 Thread Kirk Pepperdine
Hi all, I was looking for a more recent version of the hprof documentation and it looks like the last version of that doc is with JDK 8. This doc acts as a spec for the file format for heap dumps (as well as the format for for execution and heap profiler output). Question, is this document an

Re: Question on why sun.management MBeans are not exported?

2023-09-06 Thread Kirk Pepperdine
systems. So much so that I have analytics built specifically around this in my tooling. Kind regards, Kirk Pepperdine > On Sep 6, 2023, at 10:50 AM, Alan Bateman wrote: > > On 06/09/2023 16:17, Volker Simonis wrote: >> : >> I'm familiar with JEP 260. But wouldn't you

Re: RFR: 8307478: Implementation of Prepare to Restrict The Dynamic Loading of Agents [v5]

2023-05-31 Thread Kirk Pepperdine
feel I have anything more of use to add to the conversation except thank you for answering my questions. Kind regards, Kirk > On May 31, 2023, at 4:59 AM, Ron Pressler wrote: > > > >> On 28 May 2023, at 17:25, Kirk Pepperdine wrote: >> >> >> Call me dumb.

Re: RFR: 8307478: Implementation of Prepare to Restrict The Dynamic Loading of Agents [v5]

2023-05-28 Thread Kirk Pepperdine
Hi Andrei, > On May 26, 2023, at 5:00 PM, Andrei Pangin wrote: > >As @pron mentioned, the presence of `-agentlib/agentpath` option serves as > an explicit user consent to use the tool, and disallowing such agents (or > issuing a warning about them) is a non-goal of the JEP. > >With

Re: [External] : Re: New candidate JEP: 451: Prepare to Disallow the Dynamic Loading of Agents

2023-05-18 Thread Kirk Pepperdine
> On May 18, 2023, at 2:55 PM, Ron Pressler wrote: > > >> On 18 May 2023, at 21:45, Kirk Pepperdine wrote: >> >> Hi Ron, >> >> And in that JEP there is... >> >> "To attain our goal of integrity by default, we will gradually restri

Re: [External] : Re: New candidate JEP: 451: Prepare to Disallow the Dynamic Loading of Agents

2023-05-18 Thread Kirk Pepperdine
ariants in > the code. > > — Ron > >> On 18 May 2023, at 21:09, Kirk Pepperdine wrote: >> >> Hi Ron, >> >> Thanks for the reply. The way I see this is that we have functionality that >> can be accessed either via a dynamic attach pathway and a dire

Re: [External] : Re: New candidate JEP: 451: Prepare to Disallow the Dynamic Loading of Agents

2023-05-18 Thread Kirk Pepperdine
TS offering is you’ll need to see > what the sales’ team plan is. I believe they’ve said they want Oracle to > offer LTS every two years, so if they stick to that plan it will be four > releases after 21. > > — Ron > >> On 18 May 2023, at 18:37, Kirk Pepperdine wrote:

Re: New candidate JEP: 451: Prepare to Disallow the Dynamic Loading of Agents

2023-05-18 Thread Kirk Pepperdine
Hi All, With this change, will I be able to perform a dynamic attach if I opt in using the command line switch in JDK 25 (which I believe is the next LTS). Kind regards, Kirk > On May 18, 2023, at 9:31 AM, Ron Pressler wrote: > > First, you will need to accept that no one is as invested in t

Re: New candidate JEP: 451: Prepare to Disallow the Dynamic Loading of Agents

2023-05-12 Thread Kirk Pepperdine
. Kind regards, Kirk Pepperdine > On May 12, 2023, at 11:28 AM, Ron Pressler wrote: > > (Moving to the appropriate mailing lists for the discussion of this JEP) > > We want reports of common uses of dynamically loaded agents for > serviceability and difficulties setting a

Re: JEP draft: Disallow the Dynamic Loading of Agents by Default

2023-04-29 Thread Kirk Pepperdine
Hi Dan, I was initially concerned with this proposal and that it was being introduced into an LTS has only added to that. You are quite correct that it’s not what we wish to be true that should be driving us. So yes, LTS’s are no different than other releases except that isn’t what our users ar

Re: [External] : Re: Disallowing the dynamic loading of agents by default

2023-03-20 Thread Kirk Pepperdine
Hi Ron, > On Mar 20, 2023, at 3:10 AM, Ron Pressler wrote: > > Hi. > > The majority of serviceability tools don’t require dynamically loading an > agent, and the majority of applications never load an agent dynamically. While I wouldn’t be surprised that the majority don’t load agents dynami

Re: Disallowing the dynamic loading of agents by default

2023-03-19 Thread Kirk Pepperdine
I need to retrace this thread to gain more context but my initial thoughts were to all of the tools and techniques that I use and how vulnerable they are to this change vs. what the motivation is for this change. My initial assessment is that this is going to heavily impact visibility and wi