Re: Brainstorming: documenting expectations of "consumers" of our releases

2022-01-07 Thread Craig Russell
Hi Sam, I think these points are excellent. Up to now, we have provided software for the public good without expecting anything in return, except to adhere to the license terms. But using our software does involve responsibilities that you have outlined here. Good job. Craig > On Jan 7,

Brainstorming: documenting expectations of "consumers" of our releases

2022-01-07 Thread Sam Ruby
In producing the written materials for the upcoming Security Summit at the White House, it was very helpful that we had plenty of documentation for our processes and procedures on the Apache web site.  We document what is expected of contributors, project management committees, releases, respon

Re: WH Pre-brief meeting notes

2022-01-07 Thread Sam Ruby
On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 6:30 PM Sam Ruby wrote: > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COMDEV/Position+Paper The plan is to send this to the WH at 5PM Eastern (just under two hours from now). - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe

Re: WH Pre-brief meeting notes

2022-01-07 Thread Dominik Psenner
Awesome work everyone! Just now I noticed an important key point that may has slipped through: Built into the "genes" of every project is that we (the ASF) make software for the public good, at no charge and free to use for everyone. -- Sent from my phone. Typos are a kind gift to anyone who happ

Re: WH Pre-brief meeting notes

2022-01-07 Thread Jacques Le Roux
Very good work indeed (I followed it closely), thanks to all the participants. Phil's remarks is right to the point! Jacques Le 07/01/2022 à 17:10, Phil Steitz a écrit : This looks really good to me.  Many thanks to those who contributed to the content.  I have one comment that does not need to

Re: WH Pre-brief meeting notes

2022-01-07 Thread Sam Ruby
Both sets of changes applied. Thanks! - Sam Ruby On Fri, Jan 7, 2022 at 11:47 AM Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote: > > I would perhaps rephrase the section: > > The Apache Software Foundation is an example of an open source > organization. Companies and invited experts collaborate there to

Re: WH Pre-brief meeting notes

2022-01-07 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
After testing this on a few very technical policy makers and asking them what they read perhaps also change:L - " those who use them" -> "companies that build these into their product" - "JNDI (a part of the Java runtime library)" -> JNDI (a part of the Java runtime; supplied its re

Re: WH Pre-brief meeting notes

2022-01-07 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
I would perhaps rephrase the section: The Apache Software Foundation is an example of an open source organization. Companies and invited experts collaborate there to produce releases of software components and products. Along the way, those companies and individuals contribute their i

Re: WH Pre-brief meeting notes

2022-01-07 Thread Phil Steitz
This looks really good to me.  Many thanks to those who contributed to the content.  I have one comment that does not need to be reflected in the doc, but which may come up in discussion.  I agree strongly with the basic point that system owners need to take accountability for knowing what they

Re: WH Pre-brief meeting notes

2022-01-07 Thread Mark J Cox
Since the pre-meeting we've been updating the Position Paper (so if you've not been 'watching' it on the wiki please take another look and comment here). We're likely to submit this in the next few hours and it'll be sent to all the delegates attending the meeting in advance. We've also been info