[sane-devel] Re: Affordable film scanner supported by SANE

2003-03-23 Thread Major A
> Not necessarily: It is possible to have ICC profiles that only contain > a matrix ("matrix shaper profile"). OK, in this case the LUTs are simply neutral (1:1) or can at least be handled as such. > > 2. Exposure can be incorporated into the first LUT. This would avoid a > >LUT that discard

[sane-devel] Re: Affordable film scanner supported by SANE

2003-03-22 Thread Jonathan Buzzard
k...@khk.net said: > That is if the scanner actually supports an exposure control. The > scanners I deal with (EPSON) don't expose this control. Almost all proper film scanners (i.e. those that only film) will expose this control. If it didn't it would receive such bad reviews it would be dead

[sane-devel] Re: Affordable film scanner supported by SANE

2003-03-22 Thread Karl Heinz Kremer
--S1BNGpv0yoYahz37 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Mar 21, 2003 at 04:34:47PM +0100, Henning Meier-Geinitz wrote: > > their own ICC profiles, for which a new API function would be ideal). >=20 > Wouldn't it

[sane-devel] Re: Affordable film scanner supported by SANE

2003-03-22 Thread Karl Heinz Kremer
--61jdw2sOBCFtR2d/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 08:44:51PM +, Major A wrote: [ ... ] >=20 > The rest is not that simple... ICC profiles work by applying a LUT to > each channel, then t

[sane-devel] Re: Affordable film scanner supported by SANE

2003-03-22 Thread Karl Heinz Kremer
--EVF5PPMfhYS0aIcm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Mar 21, 2003 at 04:34:47PM +0100, Henning Meier-Geinitz wrote: > LUT =3D gamma table? A gamma table is a lookup table containing the gamma values (calculat

[sane-devel] Re: Affordable film scanner supported by SANE

2003-03-21 Thread James Beard
> To summarize, I think these changes are necessary: > > 4. ideally, we also want a (SANE-independent) tool for creating >profiles based on scans from calibrated targets. Does SCARSE sound like what is needed (http://www.scarse.org)? With a name like "Scanner CAlibration ReaSonably Easy", it

[sane-devel] Re: Affordable film scanner supported by SANE

2003-03-21 Thread Henning Meier-Geinitz
Hi, On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 08:44:51PM +, Major A wrote: > > Can you give some details what has to be done for that? Are changes > > necessary for the backends, frontends and/or the API? > > I don't think much has been done yet. I don't think we need to change > any backends (the only thing w

[sane-devel] Re: Affordable film scanner supported by SANE

2003-03-19 Thread James Beard
> > Just an idea -- since this is bound to become an issue with more than > > just the Coolscan2 backend, how about adding a "preference memory" > > feature to xsane? You could save multiple sets of settings for the > > same backend and recall them any time. This way you could set up one > > for ea

[sane-devel] Re: Affordable film scanner supported by SANE

2003-03-19 Thread Major A
> Can you give some details what has to be done for that? Are changes > necessary for the backends, frontends and/or the API? I don't think much has been done yet. I don't think we need to change any backends (the only thing would be if backends wanted to supply their own ICC profiles, for which a

[sane-devel] Re: Affordable film scanner supported by SANE

2003-03-19 Thread Henning Meier-Geinitz
Hi, On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 04:01:32PM +, Major A wrote: > Maybe it's finally time to add ICC support to a SANE? Can you give some details what has to be done for that? Are changes necessary for the backends, frontends and/or the API? Bye, Henning

[sane-devel] Re: Affordable film scanner supported by SANE

2003-03-19 Thread Henning Meier-Geinitz
Hi, On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 12:32:06AM +, Major A wrote: > Then we would have to add focusing and exposure options to the SANE > standard as well-known options because they are vital for film > scanning. Both are already on the TODO for SANE2. As I don't have a film scanner, it's up to you (o

[sane-devel] Re: Affordable film scanner supported by SANE

2003-03-19 Thread Major A
> According to various readings, every scanner has a different CLUT[*]. > Every film needs also a different CLUT. > > http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=000QOR > http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=000E8u Before we start creating custom LUTs for each scanner-fi

[sane-devel] Re: Affordable film scanner supported by SANE

2003-03-19 Thread Hubert Figuiere
On mercredi, mars 19, 2003, at 12:03 Europe/Paris, James Beard wrote: > What is the main information that Vuescan uses to allow it to produce > such good results? I haven't had much of a chance to experiment, but > the most obvious user defined settings were: > > 1. scanner model > 2. film type >

[sane-devel] Re: Affordable film scanner supported by SANE

2003-03-19 Thread Jonathan Buzzard
hfigui...@teaser.fr said: > You would have me as a tester. Not sure about contributing as I'd not > h ave enough spare time. Anyway if you want to think cross-platform, > I'd be happy to help on that... I am not offering to write it, just pointing out what to me is the obvious. Slide and nega

[sane-devel] Re: Affordable film scanner supported by SANE

2003-03-19 Thread Jose Paulo Moitinho de Almeida
On Wednesday 19 March 2003 00:32, Major A wrote: >... > > Then we would have to add focusing and exposure options to the SANE > standard as well-known options because they are vital for film > scanning. > I think this is a critical point to make things move. ZP

[sane-devel] Re: Affordable film scanner supported by SANE

2003-03-19 Thread Hubert Figuiere
Jonathan Buzzard écrit: > Here is a better idea. How about a SANE front end dedicated to scanning > slides and negatives. As another idea it could be closely modelled on > VueScan. At the end of the day that is what is required. > You would have me as a tester. Not sure about contributing as I

[sane-devel] Re: Affordable film scanner supported by SANE

2003-03-19 Thread Ulrich Deiters
If the backend provides focus control, the frontends make it available to the user. For some film scanners focus control is already supported by the SANE programs. Regards, Ulrich Deiters

[sane-devel] Re: Affordable film scanner supported by SANE

2003-03-19 Thread Major A
> >Here is a better idea. How about a SANE front end dedicated to scanning > >slides and negatives. As another idea it could be closely modelled on > >VueScan. At the end of the day that is what is required. > > > >JAB. > > This would be very welcome, and I encourage this. > However I shouldn't sp

[sane-devel] Re: Affordable film scanner supported by SANE

2003-03-18 Thread Petter Sundlöf
> Here is a better idea. How about a SANE front end dedicated to scanning > slides and negatives. As another idea it could be closely modelled on > VueScan. At the end of the day that is what is required. > > JAB. This would be very welcome, and I encourage this. However I shouldn't speak as I am

[sane-devel] Re: Affordable film scanner supported by SANE

2003-03-18 Thread Jonathan Buzzard
and...@users.sourceforge.net said: > Just an idea -- since this is bound to become an issue with more than > just the Coolscan2 backend, how about adding a "preference memory" > feature to xsane? You could save multiple sets of settings for the > same backend and recall them any time. This way you

[sane-devel] Re: Affordable film scanner supported by SANE

2003-03-18 Thread Major A
> >Orange mask: at least with Coolscan2, this one is trivial: adjust the > >exposure times of the R, G, B channels so that the space between two > >frames comes out exactly white. If you then scan with these settings > >and invert, all colours will be correct, and you have used the scanner > >at it

[sane-devel] Re: Affordable film scanner supported by SANE

2003-03-18 Thread Hubert Figuiere
Major A écrit: > Orange mask: at least with Coolscan2, this one is trivial: adjust the > exposure times of the R, G, B channels so that the space between two > frames comes out exactly white. If you then scan with these settings > and invert, all colours will be correct, and you have used the sc