Re: [sage-support] Re: Simplification / Latex question

2010-06-30 Thread Mike Witt
On 06/30/2010 05:06:19 AM, Burcin Erocal wrote: On Fri, 25 Jun 2010 07:53:00 -0700 Mike Witt wrote: > On 06/25/2010 06:07:02 AM, kcrisman wrote: > > Dear Mike, > > > > Just to follow up: > > > > There is further discussion at > > http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/9329 > > if you are int

[sage-support] Re: Simplification / Latex question

2010-06-30 Thread kcrisman
> As far as I understand from your previous comments, a way to extract the > exponential functions from the expression is all you need. You don't > really need to walk through the tree. Here is one way to do this: > > sage: t = exp(x+y)*(x-y)*(exp(y)+exp(z-y)) > sage: t > (e^(-y + z) + e^y)*(x - y

Re: [sage-support] Re: Simplification / Latex question

2010-06-30 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Fri, 25 Jun 2010 07:53:00 -0700 Mike Witt wrote: > On 06/25/2010 06:07:02 AM, kcrisman wrote: > > Dear Mike, > > > > Just to follow up: > > > > There is further discussion at > > http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/9329 > > if you are interested in saying exactly what sort of data st

Re: [sage-support] Re: Simplification / Latex question

2010-06-26 Thread Mike Witt
On 06/26/2010 05:21:21 PM, kcrisman wrote: > I believe that Ticket #9329 was generated in response to my original > post, before I understood that there was a Latex issue involved. > I believe that Ticket #9329 should be deleted (closed or whatever). But part of your question was also to try to

[sage-support] Re: Simplification / Latex question

2010-06-26 Thread kcrisman
> I believe that Ticket #9329 was generated in response to my original > post, before I understood that there was a Latex issue involved. > I believe that Ticket #9329 should be deleted (closed or whatever). But part of your question was also to try to simplify more complicated expressions, and i

Re: [sage-support] Re: Simplification / Latex question

2010-06-26 Thread Mike Witt
On 06/26/2010 03:26:06 PM, Jason Grout wrote: On 6/24/10 6:15 AM, kcrisman wrote: Right. This crops up in the middle of a more complicated expression. If I could figure out how to break the expression up in the right way, then I guess I could search for parts that are exponential functions, tak

[sage-support] Re: Simplification / Latex question

2010-06-26 Thread Jason Grout
On 6/24/10 6:15 AM, kcrisman wrote: Right. This crops up in the middle of a more complicated expression. If I could figure out how to break the expression up in the right way, then I guess I could search for parts that are exponential functions, take the log of those, and then simplify the logs.

Re: [sage-support] Re: Simplification / Latex question

2010-06-25 Thread Mike Witt
On 06/25/2010 06:07:02 AM, kcrisman wrote: Dear Mike, Just to follow up: There is further discussion at http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/9329 if you are interested in saying exactly what sort of data structure would enable you to perform the simplifications you would like to without

[sage-support] Re: Simplification / Latex question

2010-06-25 Thread kcrisman
Dear Mike, Just to follow up: There is further discussion at http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/9329 if you are interested in saying exactly what sort of data structure would enable you to perform the simplifications you would like to without having to create a custom Maxima simplification

[sage-support] Re: Simplification / Latex question

2010-06-24 Thread kcrisman
> I've noticed too about how maxima continues to ask things that > (it would seem) you have already told it. I guess it would be > in my best interests to learn more about maxima. > If you are serious about doing symbolic manipulation that you can control from within Sage, yes. That said, variou

Re: [sage-support] Re: Simplification / Latex question

2010-06-24 Thread Mike Witt
On 06/24/2010 06:15:52 AM, kcrisman wrote: > > > sage: n=var('n') > > > sage: f=e^(i*x*pi*n-i*2*pi*n) > > > sage: f.simplify_full() > > > e^(I*pi*n*x - 2*I*pi*n) > > > > # Is there a way I can get this to simplify? > > > This apparently isn't even that easy in Maxima. > > > Maxima 5.21.1http://

[sage-support] Re: Simplification / Latex question

2010-06-24 Thread kcrisman
> > > sage: n=var('n') > > > sage: f=e^(i*x*pi*n-i*2*pi*n) > > > sage: f.simplify_full() > > > e^(I*pi*n*x - 2*I*pi*n) > > > > # Is there a way I can get this to simplify? > > > This apparently isn't even that easy in Maxima. > > > Maxima 5.21.1http://maxima.sourceforge.net > > using Lisp ECL 10.

Re: [sage-support] Re: Simplification / Latex question

2010-06-23 Thread Mike Witt
On 06/22/2010 12:41:17 PM, kcrisman wrote: > sage: n=var('n') > sage: f=e^(i*x*pi*n-i*2*pi*n) > sage: f.simplify_full() > e^(I*pi*n*x - 2*I*pi*n) > > # Is there a way I can get this to simplify? This apparently isn't even that easy in Maxima. Maxima 5.21.1 http://maxima.sourceforge.net using L

[sage-support] Re: Simplification / Latex question

2010-06-22 Thread kcrisman
> sage: n=var('n') > sage: f=e^(i*x*pi*n-i*2*pi*n) > sage: f.simplify_full() > e^(I*pi*n*x - 2*I*pi*n) > > # Is there a way I can get this to simplify? This apparently isn't even that easy in Maxima. Maxima 5.21.1 http://maxima.sourceforge.net using Lisp ECL 10.4.1 Distributed under the GNU Publ