On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 5:45 PM, Gabriel Dos Reis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "William Stein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
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> | On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 12:30 PM, Gabriel Dos Reis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> | > "William Stein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> | >
> | > | Martin Rubey wrote:
> |
On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 12:30 PM, Gabriel Dos Reis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "William Stein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
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> | Martin Rubey wrote:
> | > By the way, I think that "axiom.someop" should become "fricas.someop" in
> SAGE.
> | > "axiom" is (meanwhile) quite misleading, FriCAS and ax
Martin Rubey wrote:
> By the way, I think that "axiom.someop" should become "fricas.someop" in SAGE.
> "axiom" is (meanwhile) quite misleading, FriCAS and axiom have parted.
Could the people involved in Sage/Fricas/Axiom vote on this? If they vote for
the change, somebody can post a patch on the
"William Stein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> * Axiom?
Axiom does *elementary* integration. That is, if the Risch algorithm applies,
it will find the result except in a few cases. It does have some pattern
matching abilities, but these are not really worth mentioning.
FriCAS (axiom fork,
On Nov 23, 8:34 am, Robert Bradshaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> What I would like to see happen soon is some of the basic cases
> solved in our own code, and then passing off to some other library
> for the harder cases.
here is a blogposting about some of the difficulties:
http://blog.wol
On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 12:49 AM, Tim Lahey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On Nov 23, 2008, at 3:39 AM, William Stein wrote:
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>> On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 10:56 PM, Tim Lahey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>>> As for the option to use Maple/Mathematica, I think as long as there
>>> is relatively
On Nov 23, 2008, at 3:39 AM, William Stein wrote:
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> On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 10:56 PM, Tim Lahey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>> As for the option to use Maple/Mathematica, I think as long as there
>> is relatively good conversion of expressions, it's best to just let
>> the user call the Mapl
On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 10:56 PM, Tim Lahey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As for the option to use Maple/Mathematica, I think as long as there
> is relatively good conversion of expressions, it's best to just let
> the user call the Maple/Mathematica command directly. Otherwise, you
> need to write
On Nov 23, 2008, at 2:34 AM, Robert Bradshaw wrote:
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> I only know a tiny bit about symbolic integration, but mabshoff's
> statement that it will be a long path is certainly an understatement.
> What I would like to see happen soon is some of the basic cases
> solved in our own code, and then pa
On Nov 22, 11:34 pm, Robert Bradshaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> On Nov 22, 2008, at 11:09 PM, Tim Lahey wrote:
> I only know a tiny bit about symbolic integration, but mabshoff's
> statement that it will be a long path is certainly an understatement.
> What I would like to see happen so
On Nov 22, 2008, at 11:09 PM, Tim Lahey wrote:
> On Nov 23, 2008, at 2:00 AM, mabshoff wrote:
>>
>> It is my understand that it cannot compete with MMA or Maple there
>> and
>> various people have claimed that Maxima's integration code is better
>> than the code in Axiom. I do not know if that
On Nov 23, 2008, at 2:00 AM, mabshoff wrote:
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> It is my understand that it cannot compete with MMA or Maple there and
> various people have claimed that Maxima's integration code is better
> than the code in Axiom. I do not know if that is true. Anyway, in the
> next Maxima release there will b
On Nov 22, 10:56 pm, Tim Lahey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Nov 23, 2008, at 1:41 AM, William Stein wrote:
> It's my understanding that Axiom is best in breed for integration, so
> it may be best to use that.
It is my understand that it cannot compete with MMA or Maple there and
various p
On Nov 23, 2008, at 1:41 AM, William Stein wrote:
> Ginac (on which Pynac is based) doesn't have any nontrivial symbolic
> integration. So that's going to continue to depend on Maxima until
> we:
>
>* write our own
>* switch to using sympy for integration (sympy does some
> integra
On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 10:25 PM, Tim Lahey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On Nov 23, 2008, at 1:01 AM, William Stein wrote:
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>> On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 9:34 PM, Tim Lahey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> As a fellow Maple user, I highly recommend that you look at the new
>>> symbolics
On Nov 23, 2008, at 1:01 AM, William Stein wrote:
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> On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 9:34 PM, Tim Lahey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
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>> As a fellow Maple user, I highly recommend that you look at the new
>> symbolics in Sage, pynac. While support is still incomplete, it has
>> capabilities more si
On Nov 23, 2008, at 1:15 AM, Thomas Madden wrote:
> Tim,
>
> Here is a link to the discussion
>
> http://www.mapleprimes.com/forum/cpu-use
>
> I am a teacher and I used Maple quite a bit to make tests and
> handouts. It seemed to only happen in document mode where I was using
> pretty much just
William Stein wrote:
>
> Jason Grout wrote:
>> A while ago, I was running Sage on a ibook G4 with 10.3.x (but then
>> upgraded to 10.4 when it came out). I don't remember any problems with
>> Sage (other than long compilation times).
>
> I think that's not possible because I believe Sage has ne
On Nov 22, 9:34 pm, Tim Lahey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Nov 23, 2008, at 12:27 AM, Thomas Madden wrote:
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> > I will have to if I ever want to get any sleep again. But only
> > temporarily because I am having too much fun with it!
>
> > Michael,
>
> > I think I became aware of Sage about t
On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 9:34 PM, Tim Lahey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On Nov 23, 2008, at 12:27 AM, Thomas Madden wrote:
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>> I will have to if I ever want to get any sleep again. But only
>> temporarily because I am having too much fun with it!
>>
>> Michael,
>>
>> I think I became aware of S
On Nov 22, 9:50 pm, Jason Grout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thomas Madden wrote:
Hi,
> > I think I became aware of Sage about two years ago. At that time I was
> > using Maple and was content but the idea behind Sage really interested
> > me so I would periodically check up on it. Almost a ye
Thomas Madden wrote:
>
>
> I think I became aware of Sage about two years ago. At that time I was
> using Maple and was content but the idea behind Sage really interested
> me so I would periodically check up on it. Almost a year ago I noticed
> that my %CPU use was maxing out when I was working
On Nov 23, 2008, at 12:27 AM, Thomas Madden wrote:
> I will have to if I ever want to get any sleep again. But only
> temporarily because I am having too much fun with it!
>
> Michael,
>
> I think I became aware of Sage about two years ago. At that time I was
> using Maple and was content but the
On Nov 22, 8:16 pm, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
dortmund.de> wrote:
> On Nov 22, 8:14 pm, "William Stein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
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> > On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 7:28 PM, Thomas Madden
>
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > > On Nov 22, 5:59 pm, "David Joyner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
On Nov 22, 8:14 pm, "William Stein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 7:28 PM, Thomas Madden
>
>
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > On Nov 22, 5:59 pm, "David Joyner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 8:08 PM, Thomas Madden
>
> > [snip]
>
> > William an
On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 7:28 PM, Thomas Madden
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On Nov 22, 5:59 pm, "David Joyner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 8:08 PM, Thomas Madden
>>
>
> [snip]
>
> William and David,
>
> Thanks very much for the quick responses. I have been keeping
>
On Nov 22, 5:59 pm, "David Joyner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 8:08 PM, Thomas Madden
>
[snip]
William and David,
Thanks very much for the quick responses. I have been keeping
an eye on Sage for about a year or so now but was unable to use it
due to hardware and OS co
On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 8:08 PM, Thomas Madden
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Sorry for the simple question, but I don't know if I am quitting sage
> properly or even if it matters. I am new to open source and have
> little experience using Terminal. I am using OS X 10.5.5 and Safari
> 3.2. If I s
On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 5:08 PM, Thomas Madden
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Sorry for the simple question, but I don't know if I am quitting sage
> properly or even if it matters. I am new to open source and have
> little experience using Terminal. I am using OS X 10.5.5 and Safari
> 3.2. If I s
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