Re: [sage-support] Those cookies again...

2010-08-23 Thread Alex Ghitza
On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 19:12:49 -0700 (PDT), kcrisman wrote: > Sysadmin has found possible workaround of deleting history of the > browser. This is fine in a lab, but potentially very crippling for > those of us who rely on auto-completion of often-visited sites. > Sysadmin is also very unlikely to

[sage-support] Re: tab on an iPad

2010-08-23 Thread Jason Grout
On 8/23/10 1:28 PM, A. Jorge Garcia wrote: I had a problem with SAGE on my iPod Touch. Everything worked fine except for jMol when viewing 3D graphs. jMol requires jre and that is not installed on Safari. Apparently this is a restriction on the iTouch, there's no way to install jre for Safari on

Re: [sage-support] tab on an iPad

2010-08-23 Thread A. Jorge Garcia
yup, I was just alluding to fact that if you use the default viewer you're stuck. As you say, you can use Tachyon but then you can't rotate the 3D graphs! BTW, I know it may sound strange, but I know all about Tachyon as that's how I originally discovered SAGE. At the time I was playing with

[sage-support] Re: numerical evaluation

2010-08-23 Thread Jason Bandlow
Hi, On 08/23/2010 03:42 PM, robin hankin wrote: > I tried this: > > roots = solve(x^3+10*x^2+11*x+8==0,x) > > The best I can do is > > N(roots[1].rhs()) > > but this is just one at a time. How do I make N() operate on all of roots? You may like for r in roots: print N(r.rhs()) or [N

Re: [sage-support] numerical evaluation

2010-08-23 Thread Soroosh Yazdani
I'm not sure if this helps your situation or not, but if you are interested in the roots of "f(x)=0", then using roots has a much more predictable behaviour. So for example: sage: expr=(x^3+10*x^2+11*x+8) sage: expr.roots() sage: expr.roots(ring=RR) [(-8.86042628425072, 1)] sage: expr.roots(rin

[sage-support] Re: How can I make implicit_multiplication default?

2010-08-23 Thread Simon King
Hi Robert, On 23 Aug., 18:08, Robert Bradshaw wrote: > > ... And on the other hand, I can't see how life with Sage would be > > any easier if automatic_names was the standard. > > Think about someone working through a series of calculus textbook > exercises (mostly one-liners). I didn't deny tha

[sage-support] numerical evaluation

2010-08-23 Thread robin hankin
Hi thanks for your earlier answers. I quite often do this: sage: solve(x^3 + 10*x^2+11*x+8==0,x) [snip] Then I realize that the analytic solution is rather complicated. So I want a numerical approximation. I tried this: roots = solve(x^3+10*x^2+11*x+8==0,x) sage: roots [x == -1/2*(1/3*sqrt(

[sage-support] Re: tab on an iPad

2010-08-23 Thread kcrisman
On Aug 23, 2:28 pm, "A. Jorge Garcia" wrote: > I had a problem with SAGE on my iPod Touch.  Everything worked fine > except for jMol when viewing 3D graphs.  jMol requires jre and that is > not installed on Safari.  Apparently this is a restriction on the > iTouch, there's no way to install jre

Re: [sage-support] tab on an iPad

2010-08-23 Thread A. Jorge Garcia
I had a problem with SAGE on my iPod Touch. Everything worked fine except for jMol when viewing 3D graphs. jMol requires jre and that is not installed on Safari. Apparently this is a restriction on the iTouch, there's no way to install jre for Safari on iTouch. I've seen it installed on a M

[sage-support] tab on an iPad

2010-08-23 Thread Ken Levasseur
Although I do most of my sage learning on a Mac, I've been playing around with using it on an iPad though http://www.sagenb.org/. It works fine if I know what I want to type but I can't do completion, for example because there isn't a tab key (I think). Anybody know of a workaround to that?

Re: [sage-support] Re: How can I make implicit_multiplication default?

2010-08-23 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 9:08 AM, Robert Bradshaw wrote: > On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 6:54 AM, Simon King wrote: >> Hi Robin, >> >> On 23 Aug., 13:43, robin hankin wrote: >>> Re automatic_names(): why isn't this the default? >>> >>> Now I know it exists, I think I'll probably use it all the time. >>

Re: [sage-support] Re: How can I make implicit_multiplication default?

2010-08-23 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 6:54 AM, Simon King wrote: > Hi Robin, > > On 23 Aug., 13:43, robin hankin wrote: >> Re automatic_names(): why isn't this the default? >> >> Now I know it exists, I think I'll probably use it all the time. >> >> Who uses sage without this option? > > I find automatic_names

[sage-support] Re: Those cookies again...

2010-08-23 Thread kcrisman
Wow, I really didn't expect to open this discussion with that post. > I expect Sage upgrades will slip further down your system admin's priority > list > if they are causing him problems. Though he's actually quite Sage-friendly, and sounds like he'll do it. The only issue was > > I am really

[sage-support] Re: Those cookies again...

2010-08-23 Thread Simon King
PS: On 23 Aug., 12:55, Simon King wrote: > ... > My impression is that the Sage development process is quite far from > that way of thinking. ... or perhaps it is not so much the way of thinking? I would expect that Python has a lot more person power than Sage. How many people do release managem

[sage-support] Re: How can I make implicit_multiplication default?

2010-08-23 Thread Simon King
Hi Robin, On 23 Aug., 13:43, robin hankin wrote: > Re automatic_names(): why isn't this the default? > > Now I know it exists, I think I'll probably use it all the time. > > Who uses sage without this option? I find automatic_names horrible, to say the least! In my opinion, such thing should *ne

Re: [sage-support] Re: How can I make implicit_multiplication default?

2010-08-23 Thread robin hankin
Hello thanks for this. I liked the preparser manpage that Simon pointed me to. Re automatic_names(): why isn't this the default? Now I know it exists, I think I'll probably use it all the time. Who uses sage without this option? Or, more precisely, can anyone give me an example of a way of wo

[sage-support] Re: How can I make implicit_multiplication default?

2010-08-23 Thread Simon King
Hi Robin, On 23 Aug., 12:58, robin hankin wrote: > But, if I didn't know it existed, how could I possibly have found it? > (give me a pointer to a FAQ!) I just tried to find it in the FAQ, but without success. Anyway. If you know that it is called implicit_multiplication then you can do sage

Re: [sage-support] Re: How can I make implicit_multiplication default?

2010-08-23 Thread robin hankin
Hello everybody >> > implicit_multiplication is very time-saving, and a much more natural way >> > to write things. I'd love it to be default. Wow, implicit_multiplication(True) is *exactly* what I have been looking for. I have tried it just now, and it is brill. OK, my question: Now that I k

[sage-support] Re: Those cookies again...

2010-08-23 Thread Simon King
Hi All! Shouldn't this discussion better go to sage-devel? On 22 Aug., 22:01, "Dr. David Kirkby" wrote: > ... > http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0006/ Quoting from this source: "In general, only the N-1 release will be under active maintenance at any time. That is, during Python 2.4's dev

Re: [sage-support] Re: solve() problem

2010-08-23 Thread robin hankin
Hello everyone thanks for the help here. In Mathematica, Reduce[] works like Solve, except that it returns a Boolean list of possible solutions. I use it to check what the necessary conditions for the"real" solution to work: MMA> Reduce[a*x == b, {x}] MMA> (b == 0 && a == 0) || (a != 0 &&