[sage-support] Re: 3 == pi

2008-06-05 Thread Gary Furnish
I don't see any concrete reason why is_true(x) and is_false(!x) must be identical... we've already lost a sane definition of equality in many ways if floating point numbers are involved, so keeping it this way isn't going to make it any worse. On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 5:28 PM, Kyle Schalm <[EMAIL P

[sage-support] Re: implicit plot

2008-06-05 Thread alex clemesha
On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 4:59 PM, William Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 4:53 PM, David Joyner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> I don't know if this can be done automatically but axes labels can be >> set using the axes_labels method described on the page >> http://www.s

[sage-support] Re: implicit plot

2008-06-05 Thread Kyle Schalm
On Jun 5, 4:59 pm, "William Stein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I really really really wish somebody would get all inspired and put some > work into devel/sage/sage/plot/plot.py. It's really gone almost nowhere in > the year and a half since Alex Clemesha stopped working on it. I do > realize

[sage-support] Re: implicit plot

2008-06-05 Thread William Stein
On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 4:53 PM, David Joyner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I don't know if this can be done automatically but axes labels can be > set using the axes_labels method described on the page > http://www.sagemath.org/doc/html/ref/module-sage.plot.plot.html > (a little over 1/2 way down

[sage-support] Re: implicit plot

2008-06-05 Thread David Joyner
I don't know if this can be done automatically but axes labels can be set using the axes_labels method described on the page http://www.sagemath.org/doc/html/ref/module-sage.plot.plot.html (a little over 1/2 way down the page). On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 7:05 PM, Kyle Schalm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrot

[sage-support] Re: 3 == pi

2008-06-05 Thread Kyle Schalm
I'm hearing some scary proposals in this thread, like crippling symbolic processing, or introducing a whole new set of comparison relations. At the same time I feel that the behaviour John is describing is indeed confusing to newcomers and off-putting enough to be worth doing something about. I be

[sage-support] Re: implicit plot

2008-06-05 Thread Kyle Schalm
thanks -- how do i get it to show the axis labels ("u" and "v")? and better yet, could we fix things to make it do this automatically? On May 30, 8:49 am, "David Joyner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > sage: u,v = var("u,v") > sage: parametric_plot3d([u, v, 1-u-v], (u,-1, 1), (v,-1, 1)) > > should w

[sage-support] Re: 3 == pi

2008-06-05 Thread Kyle Schalm
On Jun 5, 2:24 pm, "Rhys Ulerich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > this asymmetry between true and false seems bad. shouldn't "is_true(x) > > == is_false(!x)" always be true? > > Depends on whether or not you're talking to a SQL person. I think > is_true(x) == is_false(!x) > should either be

[sage-support] Re: 3 == pi

2008-06-05 Thread Rhys Ulerich
> > this asymmetry between true and false seems bad. shouldn't "is_true(x) > == is_false(!x)" always be true? > Depends on whether or not you're talking to a SQL person. I think is_true(x) == is_false(!x) should either be true or inconclusive. - Rhys --~--~-~--~~~---

[sage-support] Re: 3 == pi

2008-06-05 Thread kschalm
> >> I'm not sure what to do if the user requests a comparison that > >> sage can't easily determine: > > >> sage: sqrt(3) + sqrt(8) == sqrt(5) + pi > > >> One idea would be to return a symbolic equation > > >> sqrt(3) + sqrt(8) === sqrt(5) + pi > > >> but probably the best is to raise an except

[sage-support] Re: Fwd: SAGE installation

2008-06-05 Thread William Stein
On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 10:22 AM, Martin Albrecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Stas, I guess I'll have to build from source but I'm forwarding your e-mail to > [sage-support] where it has a better chance of being answered properly. We don't yet support gentoo for Sage. You have to build from sour

[sage-support] Fwd: SAGE installation

2008-06-05 Thread Martin Albrecht
Stas, I guess I'll have to build from source but I'm forwarding your e-mail to [sage-support] where it has a better chance of being answered properly. Cheers, Martin -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: SAGE installation Date: Thursday 05 June 2008 From: Stanislav Bulygin ... To:

[sage-support] Sage 10, Nancy France, Oct 10-15, 2008

2008-06-05 Thread William Stein
Hello, This message is to announce Sage Days 10 in France in October! Sage days 10 in Nancy (France) Announcement === http://wiki.sagemath.org/days10 October 10 to 15, 2008 at the Lorraine Laboratory of IT Research and its Applications (L

[sage-support] Re: Will Sage run on a 4GB Asus Eee PC?

2008-06-05 Thread David Joyner
I finally got it (sage) to work on the asus. Here are some random comments. 1. A lot of preporatory work was done on my ubuntu desktop. For example, the sd card is mounted as root and typically formatted as vfat. I reformatted as ext2. Also, for copying, I didn't use the command line (even with

[sage-support] Re: localhost notebook error

2008-06-05 Thread David Joyner
Sorry Cesar, I have no idea. I almost never use the notebook but use the command line instead. Maybe someone on sage-support can help (I'm cc'ing them). On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 8:45 AM, Cesar Agustin Garcia Vazquez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why do I get the following error when I start using t

[sage-support] Re: assignments and functions

2008-06-05 Thread Stan
Thanks a lot, that should work. I will have to do the symbolic derivations first and then convert the results into python functions before doing numerical computations. Cheers Stan On Jun 5, 1:23 pm, Marshall Hampton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here is a somewhat different solution that you mig

[sage-support] Re: assignments and functions

2008-06-05 Thread Marshall Hampton
Here is a somewhat different solution that you might like more: sage: var('x,a,b') sage: def f(x): return 2*x^a + b sage: f(x) 2*x^a + b sage: a = 2; f(x) 2*x^2 + b sage: b = 1; f(x) 2*x^2 + 1 The fact that f is a python function instead of a SymbolicArithmetic object has both ad

[sage-support] Re: assignments and functions

2008-06-05 Thread Stan
Dear Robert, Thanks a lot for the quick solution. That's a whole new support experience! I was hoping I could define z=y.subs(locals()) so that z would automatically adapt if the local variables change, but it does not. Every time I change the local variables, I have to redefine z=y.subs(locals(

[sage-support] Re: assignments and functions

2008-06-05 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Jun 5, 2008, at 2:34 AM, Stan wrote: > Dear all, > > I would like to use Sage as an alternative to Mathematica and I am > quite amazed about the demonstrated functionality of Sage. I just have > a very basic problem with the way I am used to do calculations. Often, > I define a set of equation

[sage-support] assignments and functions

2008-06-05 Thread Stan
Dear all, I would like to use Sage as an alternative to Mathematica and I am quite amazed about the demonstrated functionality of Sage. I just have a very basic problem with the way I am used to do calculations. Often, I define a set of equations with different variables in them, then I solve the